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Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"We chose to line his pockets since the late 70s and give him the money to own his purple mansion and live the high life and that's what we get back.Did Prince tell you or force you to "line his pockets"? No, it was your choice to buy his albums, like you said. Just because you buy someone's products doesn't mean you can claim something in return, come on!What do you expect your local butcher to do for you in return just because you buy your meat there, does the owner of factory that designed and made your car needs to do something in return because you bought that car? No, of course not, that's absolutely ridiculous you'll most likely say, yet you do expect an artist to do certain things that would please you just because you bought his product.What you're saying is utterly unreasonable.
We chose to line his pockets since the late 70s and give him the money to own his purple mansion and live the high life and that's what we get back.
Quote from: "*Mo*"Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"We chose to line his pockets since the late 70s and give him the money to own his purple mansion and live the high life and that's what we get back.Did Prince tell you or force you to "line his pockets"? No, it was your choice to buy his albums, like you said. Just because you buy someone's products doesn't mean you can claim something in return, come on!What do you expect your local butcher to do for you in return just because you buy your meat there, does the owner of factory that designed and made your car needs to do something in return because you bought that car? No, of course not, that's absolutely ridiculous you'll most likely say, yet you do expect an artist to do certain things that would please you just because you bought his product.What you're saying is utterly unreasonable.Way to avoid all my questions about what if those sorts of rules came down on THIS forum. :lol: If Prince didn't want the public as a constant part of his life and career, he should've done pub shows or become a producer. It's like Mike releasing Thriller then banning TV stations from playing his videos.Prince doesn't even have to do much, just LET fans have access to his released music instead of making them pay over $70 just to join his website to hear songs then lose that money when the site goes defunct a few months later (his 2nd or 3rd site to fail), barely releasing his CDs (WHY MAKE THEM?) and then doing zero promotion.He released a perfume for a while and is now being sued by the company because he abandoned the project and didn't pay them.Like I said, why does he bother? Most would rather he went away rather than sprinkling an occasional crumb then kicking us as we try to pick the crumb up.
He is evidently a versatile and deep read man. And for all I know he´s also a pioneer in revolutionary music marketing concepts on the internet.I´m quite sure both - Michael and Prince - had a number of conversation topics... Should I dare to ask what a "chemtrail" is? I didn´t get a clear translation for this word on dict...
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"Quote from: "*Mo*"Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"Quote from: "*Mo*"Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"QuoteAnd for all I know he´s also a pioneer in revolutionary music marketing concepts on the internet.Not really. His career has bombed since he began suing everyone who uses his music on the internet. He even went so far as to write a dis track against his fans for refusing to shut down their websites with pictures of him posted on them.He used to be unstoppable as an artist but now he's pretty much irrelevant. He hasn't released a solid record since the mid 90s.Please, get your facts straight before making statements.Prince albums released since the mid 90s:The Gold Experience (1995)Chaos and Disorder (1996)Emancipation (1996)Crystal Ball (1998)Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic (1999)The Rainbow Children (2001)One Nite Alone... (2002)Xpectation (2003)N.E.W.S (2003)Musicology (2004)The Chocolate Invasion (2004)The Slaughterhouse (2004)3121 (2006)Planet Earth (2007)LOtUSFLOW3R (2009)[/b]:roll: I said a SOLID album, meaning a good quality one. The Gold Experience was the last one to get all around critical and public acclaim. That was also the last album to give him a #1 hit around the world.Musicology got some attention because of his performance @ the Grammys with Beyonce. 3121 was mildly popular because he was still okay with promoting his work.The rest only hardcore fans would know and only a few of these albums were widely released.So, a solid album, a good quality one, to you is an album from which #1 hits come, and receives good critiques..? Then my taste of music must be really bad, because some of my favorite albums are not even known by a wide audience or only produced moderate hits. Strangely enough, these very same albums are known and highly appreciated by musicians. Makes you go mmmmmmmmm...Hits nowadays are mainly based on airplay and downloads instead of record sales. Critiques can make of break albums.His fans hate most of those albums, trust me, I'm a hardcore fan, I know some of his fans in real life. Every one of them knows he is SO not what he used to be because of his stance against the music industry. You'd be flat out trying to find a hardcore fan who really likes anything he did between 96 and 2004. He recently released two songs and his biggest fansite HATED them both. We really only stick around because of his former glory.My guess is he got into the industry when he was too young (19) and once he grew up and began to think for himself, he found it wasn't the place for him, only by then the world was in love with him.QuoteI totally disagree: listen to musicology (best selling tour in US in 2004) listen to 3121, planet Earth and his latest double album; lotusflow3 and Minneapolis, very versataile and good things on there - last but not least; GO SEE HIM LIVE ... he is an amazing artist...Yeah, I acknowledged Musicology and 3121. Planet Earth's hype didn't last very long.QuoteI'd go and see him live but he's too busy studying the Bible to tour this country :lol: LOL: I will see him tho - at Roskilde festival (Denmark) on july 4 I only enjoyed a few tracks on Lotusflow3r/MPLS but fans did take that as a slight improvement on PE and 3121.QuoteI have deep respect for Prince, and have had this since 1982. Im sure he and MJ were good partners/friends - dont believe everything u read in the news....Totally agree, their whole rivalry was completely made up.
Quote from: "*Mo*"Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"Quote from: "*Mo*"Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"QuoteAnd for all I know he´s also a pioneer in revolutionary music marketing concepts on the internet.Not really. His career has bombed since he began suing everyone who uses his music on the internet. He even went so far as to write a dis track against his fans for refusing to shut down their websites with pictures of him posted on them.He used to be unstoppable as an artist but now he's pretty much irrelevant. He hasn't released a solid record since the mid 90s.Please, get your facts straight before making statements.Prince albums released since the mid 90s:The Gold Experience (1995)Chaos and Disorder (1996)Emancipation (1996)Crystal Ball (1998)Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic (1999)The Rainbow Children (2001)One Nite Alone... (2002)Xpectation (2003)N.E.W.S (2003)Musicology (2004)The Chocolate Invasion (2004)The Slaughterhouse (2004)3121 (2006)Planet Earth (2007)LOtUSFLOW3R (2009)[/b]:roll: I said a SOLID album, meaning a good quality one. The Gold Experience was the last one to get all around critical and public acclaim. That was also the last album to give him a #1 hit around the world.Musicology got some attention because of his performance @ the Grammys with Beyonce. 3121 was mildly popular because he was still okay with promoting his work.The rest only hardcore fans would know and only a few of these albums were widely released.So, a solid album, a good quality one, to you is an album from which #1 hits come, and receives good critiques..? Then my taste of music must be really bad, because some of my favorite albums are not even known by a wide audience or only produced moderate hits. Strangely enough, these very same albums are known and highly appreciated by musicians. Makes you go mmmmmmmmm...Hits nowadays are mainly based on airplay and downloads instead of record sales. Critiques can make of break albums.His fans hate most of those albums, trust me, I'm a hardcore fan, I know some of his fans in real life. Every one of them knows he is SO not what he used to be because of his stance against the music industry. You'd be flat out trying to find a hardcore fan who really likes anything he did between 96 and 2004. He recently released two songs and his biggest fansite HATED them both. We really only stick around because of his former glory.My guess is he got into the industry when he was too young (19) and once he grew up and began to think for himself, he found it wasn't the place for him, only by then the world was in love with him.QuoteI totally disagree: listen to musicology (best selling tour in US in 2004) listen to 3121, planet Earth and his latest double album; lotusflow3 and Minneapolis, very versataile and good things on there - last but not least; GO SEE HIM LIVE ... he is an amazing artist...Yeah, I acknowledged Musicology and 3121. Planet Earth's hype didn't last very long.QuoteI'd go and see him live but he's too busy studying the Bible to tour this country :lol: LOL: I will see him tho - at Roskilde festival (Denmark) on july 4 I only enjoyed a few tracks on Lotusflow3r/MPLS but fans did take that as a slight improvement on PE and 3121.QuoteI have deep respect for Prince, and have had this since 1982. Im sure he and MJ were good partners/friends - dont believe everything u read in the news....Totally agree, their whole rivalry was completely made up.
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"Quote from: "*Mo*"Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"QuoteAnd for all I know he´s also a pioneer in revolutionary music marketing concepts on the internet.Not really. His career has bombed since he began suing everyone who uses his music on the internet. He even went so far as to write a dis track against his fans for refusing to shut down their websites with pictures of him posted on them.He used to be unstoppable as an artist but now he's pretty much irrelevant. He hasn't released a solid record since the mid 90s.Please, get your facts straight before making statements.Prince albums released since the mid 90s:The Gold Experience (1995)Chaos and Disorder (1996)Emancipation (1996)Crystal Ball (1998)Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic (1999)The Rainbow Children (2001)One Nite Alone... (2002)Xpectation (2003)N.E.W.S (2003)Musicology (2004)The Chocolate Invasion (2004)The Slaughterhouse (2004)3121 (2006)Planet Earth (2007)LOtUSFLOW3R (2009)[/b]:roll: I said a SOLID album, meaning a good quality one. The Gold Experience was the last one to get all around critical and public acclaim. That was also the last album to give him a #1 hit around the world.Musicology got some attention because of his performance @ the Grammys with Beyonce. 3121 was mildly popular because he was still okay with promoting his work.The rest only hardcore fans would know and only a few of these albums were widely released.So, a solid album, a good quality one, to you is an album from which #1 hits come, and receives good critiques..? Then my taste of music must be really bad, because some of my favorite albums are not even known by a wide audience or only produced moderate hits. Strangely enough, these very same albums are known and highly appreciated by musicians. Makes you go mmmmmmmmm...Hits nowadays are mainly based on airplay and downloads instead of record sales. Critiques can make of break albums.
Quote from: "*Mo*"Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"QuoteAnd for all I know he´s also a pioneer in revolutionary music marketing concepts on the internet.Not really. His career has bombed since he began suing everyone who uses his music on the internet. He even went so far as to write a dis track against his fans for refusing to shut down their websites with pictures of him posted on them.He used to be unstoppable as an artist but now he's pretty much irrelevant. He hasn't released a solid record since the mid 90s.Please, get your facts straight before making statements.Prince albums released since the mid 90s:The Gold Experience (1995)Chaos and Disorder (1996)Emancipation (1996)Crystal Ball (1998)Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic (1999)The Rainbow Children (2001)One Nite Alone... (2002)Xpectation (2003)N.E.W.S (2003)Musicology (2004)The Chocolate Invasion (2004)The Slaughterhouse (2004)3121 (2006)Planet Earth (2007)LOtUSFLOW3R (2009)[/b]:roll: I said a SOLID album, meaning a good quality one. The Gold Experience was the last one to get all around critical and public acclaim. That was also the last album to give him a #1 hit around the world.Musicology got some attention because of his performance @ the Grammys with Beyonce. 3121 was mildly popular because he was still okay with promoting his work.The rest only hardcore fans would know and only a few of these albums were widely released.
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"QuoteAnd for all I know he´s also a pioneer in revolutionary music marketing concepts on the internet.Not really. His career has bombed since he began suing everyone who uses his music on the internet. He even went so far as to write a dis track against his fans for refusing to shut down their websites with pictures of him posted on them.He used to be unstoppable as an artist but now he's pretty much irrelevant. He hasn't released a solid record since the mid 90s.Please, get your facts straight before making statements.Prince albums released since the mid 90s:The Gold Experience (1995)Chaos and Disorder (1996)Emancipation (1996)Crystal Ball (1998)Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic (1999)The Rainbow Children (2001)One Nite Alone... (2002)Xpectation (2003)N.E.W.S (2003)Musicology (2004)The Chocolate Invasion (2004)The Slaughterhouse (2004)3121 (2006)Planet Earth (2007)LOtUSFLOW3R (2009)[/b]
QuoteAnd for all I know he´s also a pioneer in revolutionary music marketing concepts on the internet.Not really. His career has bombed since he began suing everyone who uses his music on the internet. He even went so far as to write a dis track against his fans for refusing to shut down their websites with pictures of him posted on them.He used to be unstoppable as an artist but now he's pretty much irrelevant. He hasn't released a solid record since the mid 90s.
And for all I know he´s also a pioneer in revolutionary music marketing concepts on the internet.
I totally disagree: listen to musicology (best selling tour in US in 2004) listen to 3121, planet Earth and his latest double album; lotusflow3 and Minneapolis, very versataile and good things on there - last but not least; GO SEE HIM LIVE ... he is an amazing artist...
I'd go and see him live but he's too busy studying the Bible to tour this country :lol:
I have deep respect for Prince, and have had this since 1982. Im sure he and MJ were good partners/friends - dont believe everything u read in the news....
Off topic but I'm just curious... Anyone going to see Prince this summer? I wanna go real bad!
Quote from: "alovesmichael"Off topic but I'm just curious... Anyone going to see Prince this summer? I wanna go real bad!YES Roskilde festival, Denmark :-)