TIAI Update #5d: DO you Think 4 your Self?

[MJJSmile]

I'll try to talk to non-believers again and open up their eyes again, but they are blind as well as being rude also  :roll:
Michael says: love those who don't love you, well in this case are the non-believers that don't love the believers  
I will do my best because It's all for L.O.V.E. and because I'll be there  
Thank you TS and God bless you  
Michael I love you  

[GINAFELICIA]

TS I don't know who you are but this update is really brilliant and I MEAN IT.
I totally agree with you and thank you for this great job.

[jm1lvmj]

Thank you TS for this particular post.  You are not cold.  The information imparted is just dispassionate as is asked for on many a site in many a thread (facts and proofs).  For the waverers and disbelievers:  you are here, reading this very post because you want to believe.  You have what you need to make that leap.  If this does not convince you, then nothing will, not even MJ returning and telling you.  My  awakening came 2 months late but remains unwavering.  I will be there.  One love.

[FEDE]

Thank you so much TS!!
I'm sure... everybody of us needed your words and your explenations to understand at the best which way to run... THANK YOU!

[*Mo*]

Since this website is for MJDH INVESTIGATORS: I do my best to provide cold-hard tangible evidence for the sake of investigation—not for the sake of exhilaration!  If investigation leads to truth which makes you happy, that’s great!  But consider it as a bonus, and not the ultimate purpose.  The ultimate purpose for genuine investigation is to find out the truth—regardless of whether the truth you find makes you happy or sad, etc.

In fact, many non-believers have accused us of thinking that MJ is alive merely because we are in denial, and don’t want to accept that he is dead.  But if we are real investigators, then our feelings should not get in the way of our investigation.  We should want to know if he is really dead; and if he’s really alive, then we should be able to back it up with cold-hard facts, not mere wishful fantasies.

This is why the information that I provide is, for the most part, cold-hard evidence.  In fact, beware of anyone who tries to convince you of anything whatsoever (whether related to MJ or not)—based primarily upon warm fuzzies, and not upon good solid evidence.  Personally, I never have and never will try to convince you of anything, without some fairly strong evidence to back it up.

I wholeheartedly agree with the above, this is what's needed in an INVESTIGATION.  Thanks for providing 'clear and clean' evidence.

[hopi]

DO you Think 4 your Self?

You can also kindly remind them that the issue is what MJ believes, and his message; others are free to have their own beliefs, but the hoax forums are about MJ and his reasons for the hoax.  
And please do not get into unkind arguments with anyone; remember, it’s all for L.O.V.E.  
Preparing for bamsday means understanding the message, helping others to understand it, and most of all: living the L.O.V.E. yourself!

That's it - the quintessence... Thank you!!

[PureLove]

Thank you once more TS. I never thought that your posts are cold, I don't know why and how people could think that. I sent several PMs to you but never expected an answer from you. People need to stop thinking for themselves only, they need to stop being selfish. Stop being selfish and start thinking for others and this world is going to be the best for all of us.

Thanks to the information you have been giving to us, I tought many many people about the truths of this hoax. You helped us a lot. But if I need to talk about most of the non-believers, they make me go crazy BECAUSE it doesn't matter what evidence you give them. I try so hard to tell them about the numerology of the hoax and show them all evidences but all they say is "Numerology doesn't work for me". What else can you do for that person who denies everything? I start to hit my head to walls when they say this or when they say "You're very disrespectful. Let the man rest in peace. He's gone and let him go." kind of things. I think the vice versa about them. We're the ones who have been investigating this hoax for 10 months. Personally I haven't even slept well for the last 11 months, and I spent most of my time with the hoax. They ignore and underestimate all the work we have done. They still think that they know everything about Michael. They don't have any respect to us or to Michael. I ask them how thousands of people keep on believing in the hoax after 11 months if there was no clue. They keep on saying the same old things like we're delusional, crazy etc. I'm so mad at them because it hurts me to see how ready they were to bury Michael. They didn't even ask any questions like how it happened or why it happened. They only believed what they saw and heard. They just buried Michael alive! They think that they are investigating by talking to Karen Faye or reading Randy's tweets or by following Brian Oxman's FB page. Most of them are so narrow minded and like you wrote in your update 4, many of them will think he's just an impersonator after Michael comes back. They don't even believe their own eyes which is so sad.

After the Dave Dave And Michael is alive news, many people wanted to learn about the hoax. So, I do my best, I show all evidences which most of them were given by you and some that I found myself, I explain everything and the ones who have brain (I don't want to be rude but how hard it can be for someone to understand it after reading your updates and me explaining them everything?) gets the main idea and starts to believe; and the ones who will never ever change and prefer to stay in the dark side and close their eyes and brains to the truths, walks away with a denial again. I'm not going to try to convince noone and I never did. I never wanted to have an argument with another MJ fan because we love the same man and with our different opinions we're the MJ family.

And the believers who still don't believe in the numerology of the hoax, I don't believe that they read your updates carefully. They say that they do but if they're clever enough to find this hoax, they're clever enough to understand the numerology part of the hoax. It's just they start to read it and they get bored with it and they say it doesn't work for them which is an easier way for them being in a denial of TS' validity.

The numerology even shows some of the “who”: such as Kenny Ortega, TII director; he would be the one to have the poster come out on 9-9-09, and release the film 7 weeks later, and edit the duration to 111 minutes (and add the bam after the credits, etc).  This also explains why Kenny was closely involved with the memorial and burial. The family did not think that he was a murderer, even though some had already mentioned murder before the burial.

Do we forget about Randy Jackson's tweet: "Sitting in court & I'm sad. Those profiting most from my bro’s death: AEG, Randy Phillips, Kenny Ortega, Estate Executors r nowhere in sight     6:17 PM Feb 8th  via web"

I don't know what Randy's role exactly in the whole hoax BUT he's the only one who talks against the hoax and I have to admit that he ruins our effort while we try to convince non-believer fans. And I always have questions in my mind about this. If Michael wants non-believers to learn about the hoax, why doesn't he tell Randy to keep his mouth closed, as well as to Brian Oxman, Karen Faye and some others? I know that this is his show, his real life time Thriller and the film needs drama too but if he wants non-believers to be convinced by us, he should tell this to Randy and others. Randy's tweets are not very nice and not on our side. He's not helping us with tweets like these:

"Quick note, TMZ caught me off guard as I was leaving a meeting. I never called them & I'm not their inside source. That will b revealed soon     6:22 PM Mar 4th  via web  "
"A private issue, handled internally. The 1 in the house that calld TMZ&DCFS is on a mission 2 exploit us & separate the kids 4 her evil gain     6:29 PM Mar 4th  via web" "Almost been a year now since I lost my big brother… The best I can do now is to protect his legacy & reputation     9:28 PM May 16th  via web"

[paula-c]

TS A thousand thanks, as always your redirects are a good deal of optimism. :lol:
As for the People who talk about coincidence, I think it is a resource widely Used For Those Who CAN NOT Find Consistency in Certain Situations That seems to LACK it, the more we learn are less chances.
If you read about the origin of the numbers we see That the Hindus of Pythagoras Who Received the Knowledge, Regarded as a sacred science. Pythagoras said, "The world is built on the power of numbers."
And if I'm going to talk about the message of Michael, and be kind AND NOT Argue with Anyone, :oops:  it's all about LOVE  :lol:

[TouchedByAnAngel]

The memorial program actually mentioned that MJ looks forward to the new earth. With these things in mind, how is it possible that the end of the world is not part of MJ’s message.




Thank you MJALIVE999 for posting this image from the Memorial program. I think Rebbie has given us something important to consider.

"I love you so much and I look forward to the time when I will see you again on Earth" John 5:28-29

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice
John 5:29 And shall come forth, they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, And they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

(Is this bible quote Rebbie's way of telling us of Michael's return? (Resurrection)

Rebbie also says "...I look forward to life without end at last" Psalms 37:29

Psalms 37:29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein forever.

TS used the words "...MJ looks forward to the new Earth." While we are being told that this is the End of the World, I feel like it will just be the end of the world as we know it. The "new Earth" is the paradigm shift we will bring about because of Michael's message. The "new Earth" is the Golden Age (Age Of Aquarius)

Michael said "I do this for the awareness, awakening, and Hope"

We have to wake up and be aware of the problems (evil) BUT not fear. Michael is sending out Major Love to give us HOPE! The movie V For Vendetta clearly demonstrated that when you conquer your fears you are FREE. Please remember LOVE/GOOD will always conquer FEAR/EVIL.

Michael also said "This is it, here I stand, I'm the Light of the World, I feel grand." In Spirituality Light=Knowledge/Truth.

Michael also said "The truth will prevail." His message is L.O.V.E. (Law Of Vibrational Energy?) Everything is made of energy and vibrates. Even thoughts and emotions are made of energy. Love has the highest vibration of all! LOVE not Fear is the answer. Everyone has free will to chose.

So LightMan (MJ) is being revealed to us piece by piece by piece. MJ wasn't kidding when he said "This Is It!" and "The best is yet to come, I promise"

On 7/6/09 Kenny Ortega tweeted & used the word bio-luminescence to describe MJ. BIO-LUMINESCENCE-Emission of light by a living organism. Hybrid word originating from the Greek bios for "living" and the Latin lumen "light". So Kenny was describing Michael as the LIVING LIGHT.

Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel
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Paradigm Shift is a change from one way of thinking to another. It's a revolution, a transformation. It is driven by agents of change... US!  Make That Change!

[MJonmind]

The memorial program actually mentioned that MJ looks forward to the new earth. With these things in mind, how is it possible that the end of the world is not part of MJ’s message.




Thank you MJALIVE999 for posting this image from the Memorial program. I think Rebbie has given us something important to consider.

"I love you so much and I look forward to the time when I will see you again on Earth" John 5:28-29

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice
John 5:29 And shall come forth, they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, And they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

(Is this bible quote Rebbie's way of telling us of Michael's return? (Resurrection)

Rebbie also says "...I look forward to life without end at last" Psalms 37:29

Psalms 37:29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein forever.

TS used the words "...MJ looks forward to the new Earth." While we are being told that this is the End of the World, I feel like it will just be the end of the world as we know it. The "new Earth" is the paradigm shift we will bring about because of Michael's message. The "new Earth" is the Golden Age (Age Of Aquarius)

Michael said "I do this for the awareness, awakening, and Hope"

We have to wake up and be aware of the problems (evil) BUT not fear. Michael is sending out Major Love to give us HOPE! The movie V For Vendetta clearly demonstrated that when you conquer your fears you are FREE. Please remember LOVE/GOOD will always conquer FEAR/EVIL.

Michael also said "This is it, here I stand, I'm the Light of the World, I feel grand." In Spirituality Light=Knowledge/Truth.

Michael also said "The truth will prevail." His message is L.O.V.E. (Law Of Vibrational Energy?) Everything is made of energy and vibrates. Even thoughts and emotions are made of energy. Love has the highest vibration of all! LOVE not Fear is the answer. Everyone has free will to chose.

So LightMan (MJ) is being revealed to us piece by piece by piece. MJ wasn't kidding when he said "This Is It!" and "The best is yet to come, I promise"

On 7/6/09 Kenny Ortega tweeted & used the word bio-luminescence to describe MJ. BIO-LUMINESCENCE-Emission of light by a living organism. Hybrid word originating from the Greek bios for "living" and the Latin lumen "light". So Kenny was describing Michael as the LIVING LIGHT.

Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel



Paradigm Shift is a change from one way of thinking to another. It's a revolution, a transformation. It is driven by agents of change... US!  Make That Change!

Thank you TS for your wise, warm not cold, words to help us understand. You seem compassionate as well as possessing a lawyer/journalist ability in presenting material to us!  I love your post, TouchedByAnAngel. I don't feel most people are quite ready to take this hoax to the next and ultimate "level". People toy around with the subject are afraid to come out with it, for fear of offending, but it's right in our faces. However I believe in God's timing all will be revealed and all people's hearts will be prepared. It's obvious to me that we were not intended to know too much, but only tiny morsels at a time, and not move on until those ideas were thoroughly digested. MJ has a time-table, and God has a time-table. About telling everyone,

I've tried, but everyone around me thinks MJ's dead, period, and I'm crazy, even if I give good reasons for it being a hoax. I do think that the more internet and news coverage will affect people's thinking on MJ's status. About the "Spiritual" connection with MJ, hearts and minds have to be prepared like good soil, otherwise there's no germination. MJ is "The Thriller"! My heart "thrills" to be alive and witness to all of this. I'm blown away and don't have the words to express. I so look forward to your next updates.

[Doctor Death]

@ TS

First off I'd like to thank you for making this post. Things certainly are getting clearer everyday.

I just wanted to make a response to your reference to "that" person who pointed out taht we should focus on PAINS rather than on numerology. Well, "taht" person is me and yes, I havent spent years in the music industry...primarily because I am only 19 years old....and I am a medical student. So I really am not familiar with the nitty-gritties of song making. :|

PAINS was upheld as a major clue in the initial days of the hoax...and also indicative of the fact that the memorial was staged. Therefore, I, like many fellow believers, took it to be a clue. If its not a clue well...then we'll let it go and discard it. But still, the anomaly would persist as to Why Was The Song Edited In The First Place when not necessary at all??

I also suggested taht the the more digestible clues be introduced first to the non believers (like the SLIP UPS and theKenny Ortega tweets and Dave Dave.....all of which have found worthy attention in your updates....So YOU CANT say taht I am advocating JUST pains as evidence for hoax) and THEN gradually the numerology, to avoid the whole hoax theory to be discarded as a result of someKnee Jerk reaction by people.....Its something that peopel often do when they hear conspiracy theories.I said that keeping in mind General Public Phsycology....because I dont want this hoax theory to reach as many people as possible...So taht this doesnt get discarded as another "UFO" thing. Sadly enough I have no way of doing that as my friends hre in India, couldnt care less abou Michael Jackson hoaxing his death and its consequences. People are too busy with their own lives to care about this..Something that is very disappointing.

So my idea of the hoax is not biased or baseless in any way....In case you have come to think that, its regrettable. Its just taht I am anxious of the reactions we get from people. I am worried as to how the messsage will reach out to every soul on Earth...If thats possible at all.

[mjaliveomg]

genius..thank you T.S, you and Mj are genius

[cin_pyt]

Thanks TS all the hard work you do to keep us informed. It's long yes and really wow! Mike we waiting for BAM!

[sandythyme]

Thank you TS!  Thank you for your guidance and patience.  This has been an incredible journey and worth every step.  You have given us, the believers fuel to continue and help others become aware of Michael's message.  This whole idea of the hoax, the numbers, the message is truly a masterful piece of art.  Pure genius on Michael's part and yours.  Thanks for helping us along.  I am very grateful for your knowledge and your hard work. Take care!

[Integrity]

You are amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GREAT WORK!!
I WILL DO MY BEST TO SPREAD THE TRUTH TO ALL LIGHT BEINGS EVERYWHERE.
I send your way all that is good and may you be protected as you spread the truth of
MICHAEL JACKSON IS ALIVE AND HERE IS THE EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL AND MUCH LOVE AND BLESSINGS TO YOU ALWAYS.
WE ARE ALL ONE