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TIAI Update #5c: DO you Think 4 your Self?
May 16, 2010, 09:04:21 AM
TIAI Update #5c: DO you Think 4 your Self?


5-6. The greatest Show on earth!

Many have referred to this hoax as “the greatest show on earth”.  This is because MJ had a song by this name, on the album “Ben” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Also, this was a slogan used by Barnum & Bailey Circus {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And many already know that this “greatest show on earth” circus was arriving at Staples, during the MJ memorial on 7-7-09 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login;
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It is quite obvious that TMZ is playing a big part in this show—not only because they were first to announce the “death”, and also first on many other MJ news—but also because they are not afraid to give attention to the hoax (unlike the rest of the bigger media channels, especially in the USA).  So Update #5c here is going to be primarily about TMZ’s role in the greatest show on earth.

Although there have been several hoax related articles on TMZ, discussed in previous updates: the latest and greatest one was the walking casket, with the “RIP” or “Still alive” poll (now at 97% alive!).  “… no one saw any evidence that the casket left the building [Staples]. It fueled a grassy knoll-type theory that Jackson’s body wasn’t really inside the casket and maybe he was still alive.  Finally, our spies have come clean.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Why did TMZ wait nine months to post this?  Do you really think that their “spies” kept this secret for nine months?  And why would the “spies” keep it secret for so long?  And if it was really such a grand secret, why did they ever “come clean”??  Doesn’t it make much more sense that TMZ is playing their part in the greatest show on earth—and now that we are in the return process, it’s time to agitate the public about the hoax?

Also, it’s extremely interesting that TMZ chose the “grassy knoll” as an example of the MJ hoax theory: because the managing editor for TMZ, Harvey Levin, firmly believes that the grassy knoll theory is a TRUE theory!  “And I really believe there was a gunman in the grassy knoll.” {TMZ Live, 1-28-2010, part 2, 0:37; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Michael Jackson also believes that the grassy knoll theory is true: “JFK exposed the CIA.  TRUTH be told the grassy knoll” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  So I guess this means that MJ himself believes that the hoax theory is a true (grassy knoll) theory!!!  :lol:  :lol:

Harvey also revealed something interesting, when talking about Murray at Forest Lawn: “He [Murray] was not setting out to kill Michael Jackson at all. ... He didn’t intend to kill Michael Jackson.” {TMZ Live, 2-9-2010, 2:53; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  Compare that statement with this article from TMZ, posted a few days earlier, and on the same subject of Murray visiting FL: “Murray showed up at Forest Lawn Memorial Park on Wednesday afternoon to visit the tomb of the man he may or may not have accidentally killed.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

The last phrase there, “may not have accidentally killed”, does not mean intentionally killed; we know this because Harvey said Murray “didn’t intend to kill” MJ.  So the other meaning is that Murray “may not have ... killed” MJ at all.  As far as whether MJ killed himself, Harvey doesn’t believe that idea, either {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  So the only option left: Murray may not have accidentally killed MJ, because maybe MJ is not dead!

Notice also the similar statement in this TMZ post, just a few days later: “... he [Murray] may or may not have been responsible for the death of Michael Jackson …” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

But let’s get back to the walking casket article and hoax poll: on 4-12, TMZ Live discussed the poll.  Harvey said that he loved the poll results (at the time it was 55% “Still alive”).  Even more interesting was Jason, the other lawyer sitting beside Harvey; he responded to the poll by saying “Absolutely, unquestionably alive.”  {Part 1, 1:05; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

However, a few days later, when the poll had reached 86% alive—Mike said quite the opposite: “No.  He’s 100% not alive.  He’s 100% not alive.” {TMZ Live 4-19-2010, Part 2, 3:30; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

So which do we believe: “Absolutely, unquestionably alive”, or “100% not alive”?  And the answer is—believe it or not—NEITHER!  Harvey didn’t make either of these statements; and even if he did, we can’t accept everything Harvey says unquestionably.  Remember the TMZ disclaimer {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}?

Actually, for months TMZ has been giving out mixed signals regarding MJ: sometimes that he is dead (such as their report on June 25, and many other items since then); and sometimes that maybe he is alive.  So we should not make TMZ the main reason for believing in the hoax; instead, we should go primarily by clues from MJ and the family (see 5-10).

Nevertheless, there is value in watching TMZ: we do have clear evidence of the hoax from the Jacksons, etc, and we know that TMZ has been first on many MJ news items.  So by taking what we know from other investigation, and also by filtering through TMZ mixed signals to connect the dots: we just might be able to get a pretty good view of The greatest Show on earth!

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5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?

As most of you know by now, all of the TIAI updates have had significant dates incorporated into the update number and final section (1-18, 2-5, 3-9, 4-44, 5-12, 6-?, etc).  April 4 (4-4) was both Easter and the MLK assassination anniversary; and the next day (4-5) was a Murray court day.  However, there are not 44 days in the month of April, so what was the 4-44 about (in Update #4)? {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

On March 9, Update #4a was posted, and the outline had 44 sections (4-44); and that last section was titled: “Do You Still Need Even More Evidence???????-??”  Nearly a month later, on 4-4 at 4:00 AM (444), TMZ posted a major article in the MJ case: “Dr. Murray’s Defense - Jackson Killed Himself” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This was not just another of the countless MJ articles that TMZ puts out; instead, this was a huge breaking story—which reverberated across the media, and also generated a ten-page thread in this forum, as well as much discussion in other forums, etc {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

As TMZ frequently does, the time of posting this article was changed later (in order to keep it on the top of the home page, in this case for more than a day).  However, you can easily see that the original post time was 4-4 at 4:00 AM in this thread: {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

How many TMZ articles are posted exactly on the hour, maybe one in five or ten?  And there are eleven other hours, so it could’ve been posted exactly on the hour—and yet a different hour, not 4:00.  In either case: if it was a different hour (such as 6:00), or if it was not posted on an exact hour (such as 4:57), then we would not have the nice 4-4 at 4:00 (444).  And notice that 444 is another one of those numbers which are multiples of 111 (see 5-3, above).

Furthermore, TIAI redirected to the TMZ home page, less than an hour before this 444 article was posted {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  TIAI had previously redirected to specific TMZ articles; but this was the very first (and only) time that TIAI redirected to the TMZ home page {see TIAI history in lilwendy’s blog, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

What is the likelihood that this was all just coincidence?  And if it’s easy to see that this was intentional (not coincidence): then why can’t we understand that the rest of the 111-based numerology is intentional and planned (333, 666, 777, 999, 1221, 1776, 1998)?  We can be 111% certain that this was all planned, not coincidence (see 5-9, below).  Realistically speaking, there is no question whether it was planned; the only real question is who was behind the plan: MJ himself, or others (see 5-10, below)?

Actually, it is statistically far more likely that a coincidence occurred with the Update 4-44, and the TMZ 4-4 4:00 article (& TIAI redirect to TMZ, just before that article was posted).  Therefore, if you can’t imagine that this 444 was just coincidence, then you shouldn’t even consider the possibility that all the 111-based hoax numerology is merely random chance.

By the way: even before that TMZ article on 4-4 4:00 (and far more after it), many were thinking that TIAI/TS works for TMZ—and perhaps is Harvey Levin himself.  However, I am not Harvey, nor am I any other staff or employee at TMZ.

Back to the TMZ article itself, though: “Dr. Murray’s Defense - Jackson Killed Himself”.  Is this true?  Did MJ really kill himself (accidentally) with Propofol?  Do you really beLIEve that story?  If the whole article is true, then MJ is actually dead and there is no hoax. But if you still think that MJ is alive, then why do you believe even one single word of the article?

What we can understand from the article, is that MJ planned his own (fake) “death”; and several people did understand “killed himself” in this sense {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  But we don’t come to this conclusion primarily because of this TMZ article, or any other TMZ article for that matter; instead, we arrive at this conclusion primarily from the family—and most of all from MJ himself (Gilda, numerology timing, etc).  Then, and only then, can we begin to understand what is real and what is not real in TMZ articles; we can see the hoax clues, and connect the dots.

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5-8. Zone for MJ Info

Another TMZ article, just a few days before, was titled: “Conrad Murray - Michael Was Alive at UCLA” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Here again, if you accept the whole story, then forget the hoax; because the whole story is discussing when MJ died (at home, or UCLA)—it’s not discussing if MJ died.

Or you can connect the dots, and recognize that “Michael was alive” is the main clue—and much of the rest is unnamed or unverified “sources”.  Anything that is not readily verifiable, and especially anything that is unnamed “sources”, should go straight in the garbage.

This is part of what Michael is trying to teach us.  We are not to blindly trust tabloid media—or even mainstream media.  Yet, just like TMZ, at times there is reliable and valuable information in the media.

For example, video interviews; it is very easy to fabricate false information in writing, but it is much harder to fabricate a video interview with someone.  And even if someone did create a fake video interview (using a double, or a computer-generated image, etc): the real person would probably hear about it, and deny that it was really him.

And there are other methods to help establish what information is reliable.  Twitter has a system of verifying celebrities; so a tweet from a verified account is most likely a reliable source.  The Twitter for ALLJACK5ONS was not verified (it’s a group account); but we know it is reliable, because other verified accounts in the family have confirmed it.

Another type of fairly reliable information, is when the media (accidentally) says things which actually support the conspiracy view of things.  For example, when local media initially reported bombs found in the Murrah Federal building on April 19, 1995, and then later the mainstream media said that there were no other bombs—we know that both stories are not reliable {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Common sense tells us that the initial and local reports are reliable; but then the big guys came in and controlled the mass media, and overrode those initial reliable reports.  This happened also with the JFK junior assassination, and many other cases such as 911, etc {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

The corrupt media expects us to believe that professionals found additional bombs in the Murrah building, got equipment and experts to deactivate these bombs, and then later they realized that there were no bombs in the building!  Supposedly these professionals had been unable to tell the difference between a bomb and a grilled cheese sandwich—and they didn’t even catch their mistake, until they were trying to deactivate the sandwiches!!!  :lol:  Sorry, but I think that this story is the cheesy one; and the first reports from the local media are far more reliable.

And at this point, I should mention that as far as possible: TIAI Revealed, and the Updates, have used the above mentioned and similar types of reliable sources for information.  So don’t accept something just because TIAI says it; but on the other hand, don’t fail to distinguish between reliable and unreliable sources and documentation.  Rejecting reliable information isn’t much if any better (maybe worse) than accepting unreliable information.  Some people believe everything (gullible), others believe nothing (stubborn); if we want the truth, we must find a balance between those extremes.

Back to TMZ: they are media, and they are playing both the bad guy (tabloid and media lies), and also the good guy (hoax hints).  This is a very difficult dual role to be in, since you get attacked from all sides.  Non-believers don’t like TMZ, because of the hoax-related articles and clues, etc (like the walking casket, read the comments under that TMZ article); and many hoax believers don’t like TMZ, because they say things that are not true—or perhaps even disrespectful.

But the use of “Jacko”, etc, is actually a real good indication that TMZ is not merely playing around with hoax believers, to get more hits on their website.  If that were really the case (and they were not playing the part of bad media): then wouldn’t they avoid all such statements, so that none of the hoaxers would be against TMZ?  If hoaxers understood more clearly the roles of TMZ, and also how to distinguish between reliable and unreliable information in the media (how to connect the dots), then they might not be quite so hard on TMZ.

Furthermore, TMZ is very clearly supporting MJ’s message—because they are not condemning Murray as guilty before the trial based on hearsay, unnamed sources, and popular public opinion!  Once again, TMZ said: “... he [Murray] may or may not have been responsible [guilty] for the death of Michael Jackson …” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  If this doesn’t convince you that TMZ is not actually against MJ and his message, then what would convince you?

And even if you still think that TMZ is merely out to get more hits from hoaxers: you can’t deny the fact that they have a lot of information about MJ, and frequently they are the first to publish it {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Where are they getting this information?  How do they know so much in the MJ and Murray case?  Who is feeding them, if not one or more in the Jackson family—at least in some cases {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}?

Whoever it is, why don’t the Jacksons try to stop the leak of information?  Or why don’t they speak out against TMZ’s reports, especially the hoax related things on TMZ?  If MJ were really dead, then the walking casket is indeed highly disrespectful to MJ and the whole family.  So why haven’t all of the Jacksons come forward (or at least one of the family) to protest TMZ, the walking casket, and the still alive poll, etc—just like Jermaine and La Toya did with the gay garbage {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}?

TIAI Update #5d is the final part.  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}
Last Edit: May 19, 2010, 09:10:37 PM by TS
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Wow thank you TS, I luv ya  ;)
I go to read it.
L.O.V.E.  :)


OK ... done. TS you're great as always, I like when you say " to distinguish between reliable and unreliable sources "  :lol:
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Always with L.O.V.E.

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~Souza~

On a SUNday, I thought we would see you back today TS! Thanks again for this, let's hope people will start to realize what TMZ's role in this is. I mean come on, you gotta love Uncle Harve!

Looking forward to update #5d.
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superflysister81

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Thank You TS ! SUN is finally shining here...  :lol:
Love you and Love Harve !

;)
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RK

Thanks TS,
Loved the line....It's time to agitate the public about the hoax.
These are interesting days.
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Thank you TS !

You are so right !
If someone is not already convinced that TMZ is working for us, I don't know what can convince him. 8-)

Am I wrong or this is the first time I see you TS, to have so much fun  with your  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  !

Thanks again !  ;)
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*Mo*

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Thanks a lot for "spoon feeding" in this update TS!  ;)

If TMZ's role in this hoax isn't clear to everyone now, then it never will be...  Keep watching TMZ...love ya Harve!

Wishing you a splendid SUNday TS!
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RK

Yes, thankyou for spoon feeding me TS. And Mo I do believe you are poking fun at me ;)
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@ TS

My thoughts exactly.   8-)
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kel70

thank you T.S for explaining...its making alot of sense to me now... and probably others who have a foggy brain like me  :D   God Bless You  :)
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Sarahli

TMZ dual role is crystal clear. I wonder who writes the articles, who chooses the words, the ideas... :D
Thank you for this brilliant update TS.
Thank you Harvey and all the people involved. We keep watching TMZ with hoax filters on.
God bless you.
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

*Mo*

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Quote from: "TS"
For example, video interviews; it is very easy to fabricate false information in writing, but it is much harder to fabricate a video interview with someone.  And even if someone did create a fake video interview (using a double, or a computer-generated image, etc): the real person would probably hear about it, and deny that it was really him.

Oh, you mean like Dave Dave on Larry King Live...?  ;)
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Puff

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Happy SUNday!
Thank you TS!
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paula-c

Thanks TS, learn to read what TMZ reports, take the tracks and disposing of garbage, such as the issue of "gay trash", :lol:  it is important to invent the news by writing and asking Mo on the images on computers, .. Dave Dave (¿murray?) 8-)  and something I've always wondered, the Jackson family that never complains about things he writes TMZ? .. I thought I was going to spend a boring Sunday :lol:
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Thank you so much for such a detailed update
Looking forward to 5d.
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