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Do you think this is the same person?
May 05, 2010, 09:27:31 PM
Before you view these and think of this question, try your hardest to view these two videos from an objective point of view. This may help you understand why I would put this in the Double Theory section.

Human Nature - BAD tour - 1987
[youtube:3domt7uj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAH-8tRbZdw[/youtube:3domt7uj]

Human Nature - Dangerous Tour - 1992
[youtube:3domt7uj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj3xTRD6qD0[/youtube:3domt7uj]

I know everyone has their off day but this make me go hmmm... especially knowing that Michael announced that BAD was going to be his last tour. You can view more about that @ You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 05, 2010, 09:40:29 PM
I am going to slightly contradict myself here but I do believe this is him during the Dangerous rehearsals.

[youtube:qyyua7ud]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cTDzMHn5Ts[/youtube:qyyua7ud]

However, it further proves my point. How is he able to perform like this during rehearsal and sound excellent, like he did during the BAD tour, and then come out on the actual show and sound not his best? Maybe he was using doubles for certain performances or certain shows for whatever reason. He may not have ended his touring completely after BAD, just lessen his days. I know this was mentioned before as a possibility and I think that it would make sense, looking at these inconsistencies with his performances.
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 05, 2010, 09:58:07 PM
I disagree. Maybe that night in Bucarest he didn't give it his all or he was resting his vocal cords somewhat. His songs over the years will never sound exactly the same in all his concerts, imo.
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 05, 2010, 10:04:13 PM
Maybe that night in Bucarest he was already getting tired and slowing down.
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 05, 2010, 10:24:42 PM
It was said that this is when he first started using Propofol. Also, he had a throat condition which you can hear in some of his performances. He could have canceled but went on with the show for his fans. He missed vocals live a lot. There were some instances throughout the HIStory tour where he was tripping over his dance steps. There were times when you could see how tired he was from the start. That was a very big tour and he was closer to 40 than 20 and that makes a huge difference as well.
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 05, 2010, 10:56:22 PM
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I am going to slightly contradict myself here but I do believe this is him during the Dangerous rehearsals.

[youtube:3twlf0af]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cTDzMHn5Ts[/youtube:3twlf0af]

However, it further proves my point. How is he able to perform like this during rehearsal and sound excellent, like he did during the BAD tour, and then come out on the actual show and sound not his best? Maybe he was using doubles for certain performances or certain shows for whatever reason. He may not have ended his touring completely after BAD, just lessen his days. I know this was mentioned before as a possibility and I think that it would make sense, looking at these inconsistencies with his performances.
didn't he have laryngitis though that entire tour or was it a different one?
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 06, 2010, 07:01:10 AM
He had laryngitis trough the HIStory tour, as much as I liked the performances he put, most wasn't live.

But yeah he already showed trough the years that he 'IS' the ultimate performer :D

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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 06, 2010, 07:15:03 AM
sorry but I don't think it's a double on stage in Bucharest....it's Michael.
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 06, 2010, 07:19:43 AM
Quote from: "TracyK"
It was said that this is when he first started using Propofol. Also, he had a throat condition which you can hear in some of his performances. He could have canceled but went on with the show for his fans. He missed vocals live a lot. There were some instances throughout the HIStory tour where he was tripping over his dance steps. There were times when you could see how tired he was from the start. That was a very big tour and he was closer to 40 than 20 and that makes a huge difference as well.


I can tell you already that he was not on drugs. Not during the HIStory tour, not during the Dangerous tour, not during the BAD tour. This is something we heard first hand from someone that worked with him. Will post that later, but he was not on drugs and I think the people that worked with him on a 1,5-year-tour, would have at least noticed SOMETHING.
So there must have been something else why he didn't sound as we were used too. Either a double, or he was ill.
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 06, 2010, 07:24:13 AM
Does it really bother people that Michael mimed a few tracks ???
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 06, 2010, 07:43:32 AM
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Does it really bother people that Michael mimed a few tracks ???

Yes, because we know how great he is live. So if he had lung and/or throat problems, I want to know why.
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 06, 2010, 08:25:38 AM
this version of rock with you sounds different,
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anyway... he uses doubles, we know that... he uses for winning some time for a change of clothes when he was doing a tour, he will use in TII (I think) but i don´t think that the use of doubles was something to do with non sing or something like that... :roll:
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 06, 2010, 08:34:34 AM
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Quote from: "awesome1"
Does it really bother people that Michael mimed a few tracks ???

Yes, because we know how great he is live. So if he had lung and/or throat problems, I want to know why.

Well Thriller was Always mimed, and i thought he had laurangitis (if thats how its spelt ) during Dangerous, and besides the versions of the Dangeous and History Tours are only one show out of 50 or whatever the number of shows... so it could just be that one show.  Dangerous i really cant notice any real miming apart from Thriller, HIStory all mimed apart from a few songs.

i suppose it could be down to the dance routines on some numbers... most bands/singers mime on tracks because they have a hard dance routine to go with it, but with MJ hes sang live with a hard danec routine before, so it does make you wonder why he done it, but im not that bothered by it....
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 06, 2010, 08:38:24 AM
Quote from: "awesome1"
Does it really bother people that Michael mimed a few tracks ???

not at all, especially when he's dancing... and the big artists these day lip sync damn near a whole show, so skipping some verses is nothing 8-)
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Re: Do you think this is the same person?
May 06, 2010, 05:36:05 PM
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Quote from: "awesome1"
Does it really bother people that Michael mimed a few tracks ???

not at all, especially when he's dancing... and the big artists these day lip sync damn near a whole show, so skipping some verses is nothing 8-)

I agree with you.  Anyone who can dance  and perform like that for 2 plus hours deserves to lip sync at some point.   Especially when on tour and not pulling a one nighter.
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