Something odd about oil spill in Gulf..

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

My daughter's best friend's father (sorry best way to describe him) works on an oil rig in the gulf.  The rig he was on is 20 miles from where the BP rig exploded.  He said they could see the explosion from where they were.  He said it was terrible.  They immediately sent boats over to help but the flames were so bad they could not get very close.  Jay said it was the worst thing he has ever seen.

Really? How does an oil rig just explode?

A missle perhaps?

Also, if the fire was so bad, then how could ANY bodies be recovered? I would think they would have been incinerated...

[jill]

Hope Dims for 11 Workers Missing After Oil Rig Blast

Eleven workers missing from an offshore oil platform may not have escaped after a massive explosion, officials said Thursday.

Crews continued to search by air and water for those missing from the Deepwater Horizon, which burned for nearly a day before sinking into the Gulf of Mexico on Thursday.

Adrian Rose, vice president of rig owner Transocean Ltd., said crew members who survived Tuesday's explosion indicated the missing may have been near the blast and unable to escape. Officials had hoped they might have been able to get to a covered lifeboat with supplies.

The rig was doing exploratory drilling about 50 miles off the coast of Louisiana. Rescue crews have covered a 1,940-square-mile search area by air 12 times and by boat five times.

Carolyn Kemp of Monterey, La., whose grandson, Roy Wyatt Kemp, 27, was among the missing, said family members have been told it's unlikely anyone survived. Roy Kemp would have been on the drilling platform when it exploded.

"They're assuming all those men who were on the platform are dead," Carolyn Kemp said. "That's the last we've heard."

Other relatives waited anxiously for hourly updates. Family members of one missing worker, Shane Roshto of Amite, Miss., filed a lawsuit in New Orleans on Thursday accusing Transocean of negligence. The suit said he was thrown overboard by the explosion and is feared dead, though it did not indicate how family members knew that was what happened.

The suit also names oil giant BP, which contracted the rig. A Transocean spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment and BP wouldn't discuss the suit.

The family of Dewey Revette, a 48-year-old from southeast Mississippi, said he was also among the missing. He worked as a driller on the rig and had been with the company for 29 years.

"We're all just sitting around waiting for the phone to ring and hoping for good news. And praying about it," said Revette's 23-year-old daughter, Andrea Cochran.

Transocean Ltd. spokesman Guy Cantwell said 111 workers who made it off the Deepwater Horizon safely after Tuesday night's blast were ashore Thursday, and four others were still on a boat that operates an underwater robot.

Seventeen others hurt in the blast had been brought to shore Wednesday with burns, broken legs and smoke inhalation. Four were critically injured.

Officials had previously said the environmental damage appeared minimal, but new challenges have arisen now that the platform has sunk.

The well could be spilling up to 8,000 barrels of crude oil a day, the Coast Guard said, and the rig carried 700,000 gallons of diesel fuel. She didn't know whether the crude oil was spilling into the Gulf.

Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry said crews saw a one mile by five mile sheen of what appeared to be a crude oil mix on the surface of the water.

The federal Minerals Management Service said it had inspected the rig three times since it moved to the site in January and found no violations.

The rig is 400 feet by 250 feet, roughly twice the size of a football field, according to Transocean's website. A column of boiling black smoke rose hundreds of feet over the Gulf of Mexico.

Rose, the Transocean vice president, said the explosion appeared to be a blowout, in which natural gas or oil forces its way up a well pipe and smashes the equipment. But precisely what went wrong was under investigation.

One worker said he was awakened by alarms and scrambled to get on a life boat.

"I've been working offshore 25 years and I've never seen anything like this before," said the man, who like others at a hotel where workers were taken after they reached land declined to give his name.

Stanley Murray of Monterey, La., was reunited with his son, Chad, an electrician aboard the rig who had ended his shift just before the explosion.

"If he had been there five minutes later, he would have been burned up," Stanley Murray said.

A total of 126 workers were aboard. Seventy-nine were Transocean workers, six were BP employees and 41 were contracted.

The blast could be one of the nation's deadliest offshore drilling accidents of the past half-century.

One of the deadliest was in 1964, when a catamaran-type drilling barge operated by Pan American Petroleum Corp. near Eugene Island, about 80 miles off Louisiana, suffered a blowout and explosion while drilling a well. Twenty-one crew members died. The deadliest offshore drilling explosion was in 1988 about 120 miles off Aberdeen, Scotland, in which 167 men were killed.

Rose said the Deepwater Horizon crew had drilled the well to its final depth, more than 18,000 feet, and was cementing the steel casing at the time of the explosion.

"They did not have a lot of time to evacuate. This would have happened very rapidly," he said.

According to Transocean's website, the rig was built in 2001 in South Korea and is designed to operate in water up to 8,000 feet deep, drill 5 1/2 miles down, and accommodate a crew of 130. It floats on pontoons and is moored to the sea floor by several large anchors.

Workers typically spend two weeks on the rig at a time, followed by two weeks off. Offshore oil workers typically earn $40,000 to $60,000 a year -- more if they have special skills.

Working on offshore oil rigs is a dangerous job but has become safer in recent years thanks to improved training, safety systems and maintenance, said Joe Hurt, regional vice president for the International Association of Drilling Contractors.

Since 2001, there have been 69 offshore deaths, 1,349 injuries and 858 fires and explosions in the Gulf, according to the federal Minerals Management Service.

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

[jill]

My daughter's best friend's father (sorry best way to describe him) works on an oil rig in the gulf.  The rig he was on is 20 miles from where the BP rig exploded.  He said they could see the explosion from where they were.  He said it was terrible.  They immediately sent boats over to help but the flames were so bad they could not get very close.  Jay said it was the worst thing he has ever seen.

Really? How does an oil rig just explode?

A missle perhaps?

Also, if the fire was so bad, then how could ANY bodies be recovered? I would think they would have been incinerated...

I posted the article I found on Fox.  Hope this helps.  Like you, I was very suspicious when I first heard of this on the news and concerned because I didn't know which rig our friend was on.  It just seems every time Obama wants a bill passed a disaster preceeds it.  Too coincidental.

[AvaMarie]

I heard something about that on CNN. They said it is believed that the ship was owned by S. Korea and that the missile attack came from N. Korea.

[MJLover1990]

This all makes me so sad, all this injustice and the lies over and over again! I just read that the oil that is leaking in the oceans now that it's actually so bad that it could toxic all the oceans over the world! Ofcourse this will never be mentioned on the mainstream media.

[jill]

I found this article:

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RUSSIANS REPORT NORTH KOREAN MINI-SUB TORPEDOES GULF RIG
May 1, 2010 by imkane

A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia’s Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea’s torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.

On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright. Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen.—The TexasFred Blog


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Did North Korea sabotage Gulf oil rig, and did Obama cover it up?

By Anthony G. Martin


For the past few days bloggers have been speculating on whether or not North Korea engaged in sabotage to torpedo the Gulf oil rig, resulting in a massive explosion that sent the rig sinking into the Gulf and spilling thousands of barrels of oil that are now headed to the Gulf Coast.

This blog is an example of the story being reported, which is based upon a Kremlin report in the ‘EU Times’ which accuses North Korea of blowing up the rig in an attempt to sink a South Korean vessel in the Gulf.

At least one major mainstream media news outlet, television station WRAL in Raleigh, North Carolina, also reported the story that quotes heavily from the Russians.

The Kremlin also maintains that Barack Obama ordered an immediate news blackout, preventing reporters from gaining access to the area or discovering information that would confirm or disprove the charges.

If this story turns out to be true, then there is no doubt that Obama has engaged in a cover-up.

At this point it is impossible to verify the facts of the original report from the Kremlin in the EU Times.  With a news blackout in effect, information is scant.  It is to be noted, however, that little information is coming from the mainstream media other than the expected, incessant drumbeat on the ‘enormous environmental disaster and the dangers of drilling for oil in the Gulf,’ etc., etc.

So far no information has been reported on why an oil rig, which is designed in such as way so as to prevent such an explosion and quick-sink into the sea, would suddenly and without explanation go up in a massive dark cloud of fire and smoke.

And there has been no report on survivors, no interviews with eyewitnesses, not even a report on the names of those who were working on the rig at the time.

In addition, Barack Obama’s actions yesterday, and his public statement concerning those actions, are, at the very least, curious.  The wording of the statement is similar to one a President would make in the event of an act of sabotage.  And the fact that Obama sent the federal SWAT team to the area fuels even more speculation that there is something more afoot here than just an oil rig spill.

It is to be remembered, however, that if the explosion is the result of an act of sabotage, the source of such an act may have absolutely nothing to do with North Korea.  Environmentalist extremists have been known in the past to engage in acts of violence to get their message across and to prevent what they see as the ‘raping’ of the environment by the wicked, demented oil companies, nuclear energy companies, and others who do the demonic work of providing essential energy for the country–the energy that runs the computers from which Leftwing shills sit in their underwear in their momma’s basements, spouting extremist propaganda.

Anything the Kremlin says, particularly with regard to their Communist comrades in North Korea, can be considered suspect, although at this point it is too early to entirely discount it.

But it is more credible to posit a theory of environmentalist wackos blowing up the rig, given their history, and given this is close to ‘Earth Day,’ and that this is ‘May Day,’ and that Obama and the Democrats who are now denouncing expanded oil exploration in the Gulf need a convenient excuse not only to back off from Obama’s plan for limited expansion of oil drilling but to stop it entirely, as Democrat Senator Bill Nelson from Florida is now proposing.

All the more reason for Obama to send in the SWAT team to secure the area, initiate a news blackout, and cover up what really happened at the rig site.

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[somekindofsign]

In Spain, the press is following it for some days now. An oil patform went exploded in the Gulf of Mexico. We have also reports about BP building a dam. It all started to be told here last week, they said it was far from the coast then and they were thinking about burnning it before it reached the coast. They say it´s reaching Florida now and that the whole ecosystem could be lost.

Here you have a source from here.
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But you also have it on the NY Times:
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[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

Hurricane Season starts June 1st.........I hope they have it under control by then...

[jill]

In Spain, the press is following it for some days now. An oil patform went exploded in the Gulf of Mexico. We have also reports about BP building a dam. It all started to be told here last week, they said it was far from the coast then and they were thinking about burnning it before it reached the coast. They say it´s reaching Florida now and that the whole ecosystem could be lost.

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Now they are estimating it to be at least 5,000 barrels a day, much more than expected.  They said last night it could take up to three months to get it under control.

[jill]

Hurricane Season starts June 1st.........I hope they have it under control by then...

Do you live near the coast?  I wish I did.  I'd like to move to the Carolina's.

[Grace]

I hope we are not mixing up two nailmarks:
on April 22, there was a south korean ship sunk by north korean missiles but it happened in the Yellow Sea.

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The oil spill for sure has more negative effects than harming environment and cutting down fishing industries in the concerned states:
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BP Spill Threatens Gulf of Mexico Oil, Gas Operations (Update2)
May 03, 2010, 10:40 AM EDT
(Updates with statement from BP’s Rinehart from seventh paragraph, from Air Logistics’s Holder in 11th. See {EXT4 <GO>} for more on the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.)
By Asjylyn Loder and Jessica Resnick-Ault

May 3 (Bloomberg) -- The growing oil slick fed by an underwater leak in a BP Plc well in the Gulf of Mexico may threaten production, shipping and refining of oil and natural gas in Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana.

Those three states account for 19 percent of U.S. refining capacity as of 2009, according to data from the U.S. Energy Department’s Energy Information Administration.

“Traders are nervous about how fast the slick could grow,” and whether it could have a significant effect on oil and natural-gas production, said Andy Lipow, president of Lipow Oil Associates LLC in Houston.

The oil spill followed an April 20 explosion on a drilling rig leased by BP Plc that killed 11 workers. The rig, owned by Transocean Ltd., sank two days later.

President Barack Obama called the leak a “massive and potentially unprecedented” disaster that could affect the economy of the Gulf states and the jobs of those who depend on the Gulf for their livelihood.

The spill could drift west toward New Orleans, hindering ships entering and leaving the Mississippi River or deliveries of cargoes to the Louisiana Offshore Oil Port, Lipow said in a telephone interview yesterday.

Fire Danger

Oil in the water could ignite another fire and the slick could emit dangerous fumes, putting offshore workers at risk, said Steve Rinehart, a spokesman for BP and the multiagency Joint Information Center coordinating the federal response.

Ships face the same potential hazards, and have the additional risk of interfering with clean-up efforts or tracking oil on their hulls into the Mississippi River, he said. So far, the Coast Guard hasn’t restricted commercial traffic, Rinehart said in a telephone interview today.

Three natural gas platforms have been affected by the explosion. One has been evacuated and production shut, another has been shut-in without being evacuated and the third was evacuated without being shut-in, he said. Rinehart wouldn’t identify the companies involved.

Approximately 6.2 million cubic feet of gas, or less than one-tenth of one percent of daily gas production, has been shut in, Rinehart said.

Operations Evacuated

Air Logistics, which has 93 helicopters operating in the Gulf of Mexico, evacuated one drilling rig and two gas platforms since the blowout, said Danny Holder, manager of the company’s North American business. He declined to say which companies the platforms belonged to.

Neither Holder nor Rinehart could clarify if they were talking about the same evacuated platforms. Rinehart said overall platform impact throughout the Gulf is being tracked by the U.S. Minerals Management Service and the Joint Information Center.

The Coast Guard has set up two clean-up stations near the entrance of the Mississippi River, the biggest waterway for U.S. commodity shipments, for vessels that move through the spill. BP will be held accountable for the cleaning cost, according to Ted Knight, executive assistant at Port of New Orleans. No commercial vessels have used them, he said.

The Southwest Pass, the main channel to the river, isn’t affected by the spill, said Chris Bonura, spokesman for the Port of New Orleans. The river has 5,000 to 6,000 ship calls a year, he said.

Ship Traffic Normal

“Everything is clear and the forecast is clear through Tuesday,” Bonura said. “We haven’t had any ships canceled or delayed.”

All operations were normal at the LOOP, a deepwater port off of Louisiana that provides tanker offloading and receives oil from underwater pipelines, said Barb Hestermann, a spokeswoman, in a telephone interview.

The LOOP handles about 10 percent of the nation’s imports and 10 percent of domestic production via pipelines in the Gulf of Mexico operated by Shell and BP, she said.

“We don’t anticipate being impacted,” Hestermann said. “We’re quite a bit west of the oil spill.”

If the slick moves east, crude deliveries could be interrupted to Chevron Corp’s 330,000-barrel-a-day Pascagoula refinery in Mississippi and to a Shell Chemicals refinery near Mobile, Alabama, Lipow said.

“We continue to supply products to our customers,” said Lloyd Avram, a Chevron spokesman.

Pascagoula Traffic Normal

Ship traffic isn’t restricted at the Port of Pascagoula, which serves Chevron’s refinery, BettyAnn White, a spokeswoman for the port, said in a telephone interview.

Royal Dutch Shell Plc operates refining joint ventures with partners at four Gulf Coast refineries. The company also has Gulf of Mexico drilling operations, and recently started production at the deepest offshore Gulf platform, Perdido.

Shell is monitoring the situation, including the “trajectory and quantity of oil released to determine any potential impact on our operations,” Ted Rolfvondenbaumen, a company spokesman, said in an e-mailed response to questions.

So far, refiners have not indicated to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve that there is any shortage of crude, Stephanie Mueller, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Energy Department, said in an e-mail today.

No Crude Shortages

“We continue to be in touch with refiners and to date they indicate there are no shortage issues,” Mueller said. “We will consider all requests for loans, which are initiated at the request of the company.”

Valero Energy Corp., the largest U.S. independent refiner, operates five refineries on the Gulf Coast.

“At this time, we’re not expecting any disruptions to supply,” Bill Day, a Valero spokesman, said in a telephone interview. “We have prepared equipment and expertise in case we’re asked to assist with cleanup along the Gulf Coast since we have oil-spill response equipment.”

There has been no effect on Marathon Oil Corp.’s platform in the Gulf of Mexico, and no disruption to its Garyville, Louisiana, refinery on the Mississippi River, said Lee Warren, a company spokeswoman.

There is no effect on production at Exxon Mobil Corp. facilities in the Gulf of Mexico, said David Eglinton, a company spokesman.

Koch Industries doesn’t comment on potential supply disruptions, said Katie Stavinoha, a spokeswoman. Flint Hills, a unit of Koch Resources LLC, operates a refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas.

Seeking Solutions

BP is seeking ways to plug the leaks 5,000 feet under the water’s surface. The company plans to drill a second well to take pressure off of the current gusher. The U.S. Coast Guard said it has been unable to get an accurate estimate of how much oil is leaking and is preparing for a worst-case scenario.

More than 2,000 people have been deployed to protect the shoreline and coastal wildlife, according to a statement from the Joint Information Center. The U.S. Coast Guard said today that the spill is five to 10 miles off the shore of Louisiana.

Surface estimates of the size of the slick and skimming efforts were hindered as the Coast Guard ordered boats and aircraft back to port because of stormy weather. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration previously estimated the well is spewing 5,000 barrels of oil a day. At that rate, the volume of the spill would exceed Alaska’s 1989 Exxon Valdez accident by the third week of June.

Investor Caution

Paul Sankey, an analyst at Deutsche Bank, said uncertainty over the size and severity of the spill should give investors caution about adding to holdings in large oil companies.

“We need some kind of limit to this spill before stepping up exposure to oil,” Sankey said today in a note to clients.

The oil spill will affect the political debate on expanding offshore drilling, Goldman Sachs said an April 30 report.

“Depending on how bad the spill proves and how serious the public reaction is, we believe the most likely potential implications are” slower progress approving new leases and a smaller chance of lifting the moratorium on drilling in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, Goldman Sachs said.

--With assistance from Aaron Clark and Moming Zhou in New York, Katarzyna Klimasinska in Houston, and Joe Carroll in Chicago. Editors: Charlotte Porter, David Marino.

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So main negative effects are said to be concerning:
- economic life of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.
- Dutch Shell company
- British BP company
  (no US oil company harmed so far if I got it right)
- difficulties for Louisiana Offshore Oil Port
- hindering cargo ships to enter Mississippi
- shortage in oil refinery capacity
- shut down of natural gas platforms
- potential fear of shortage of refinery supply
- investor's reluctance in oil companies
- nervous traders on stockmarkets
- political debates on expanding offshore drilling
- etc.

Potential scenarios:
a) - induce a shortage in one source to legitimate extensified supply from other sources (invasive or of other kind)
b) - induce a disaster in order to send in troops and intensify coast guard and other staff
c) - induce a huge black smoke cloud to deviate attention from another important topic
d) - etc.

Nobody talks about the U.S. off-shore drilling and military invasion into Angola, Africa (Westcoast), the second largest supplier of oil to the U.S. Just as an example.
This is "I want these ressources" time where the planet is being segmented.
It will get worse.

[voiceforthesilent]

Wow - so my family's suspicions are the same as others. Sometimes I think we are too radical but I guess not. Hmmm - very scary. What else is in store for us over the next couple of years? Thank you for this information.

[Infinitylady]

I am sure someone will be posting about the suspicous oil spill in the Gulf soon, if not already.  :|

[rowdyangel]

I don't know about you guys but since 25th June 2009 I have become much more suspicious and tend to question things a lot more.  I don't take everything I see/hear/read as gospel anymore.  I have to analyse EVERYTHING and not just take things at face value.

Something about this oil spill does not sit right with me.