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I think it''s Michael in that video with Dionne Warwick.
Quote from: "lettingitsimmer"Quote from: "truthprevails"I'd give Michael 40 in TII. Wylie might have looked somewhat like a young Michael, BUT Wylie was 11 years younger than MJ and he was black... MJ's skin turned white in time due to vitiligo. I think it would have been hard for Wylie to keep up with the changes in MJ's appearance - and Wylie didn't seem to have any interest in being an MJ impersonator or double.I was recently thinking about Wylie possibly being in the mix somehow, too, and then this thread came up! He danced so much like Michael and he looked very much like him too. I am not saying he was a twin or relative ,or not, but he could have been involved as a double all these years and not really died..I saw an interview with his mother at the time of his role as Michael in the film... I always wondered why such a talented person like him, and especially connected to Michael career - wise, did not have more admiration and information in the media then and since then.. perhaps it was kept quiet for obvious reasons?It may sound like an impossibility.. but when you think about it, anything can be possible when all the right ingredients are put together.Makeup ( "even" skin tones , whether light or dark,etc)and with some cosmetic surgery( as a previous poster has already mentioned) and tuition for the "look" and manner and speaking voice of Michael could make it all believable..The photo of him in the garden at Havenhurst was so incredibly like Michael. Also, (and I am sorry I cannot remember the actual you tube video) there was a speech and outdoor ceremony when Michael( in blue sparkly military uniform and short hair( he was about mid 20's old) was standing at the microphones , next to Dionne Warwick, I think...He seemed to be extremely nervous and needed prompting from her etc.and found it hard to speak, and as he was walking off the platform he seemed extremely nervous as he looked back... for a second there I wondered if it was Wiley, because just before that , in the video,some merchandise was being held up and a white t-shirt with what looked like Wiley's face(as seen in the film) was printed on it.. it really did not seem to be a picture of Michael.. more like Wiley..with plump cheeks..Maybe his illness and death were real and I do not want to be disrespectful if that is the truth,and I may be right off track,with my opinions here.. but Wiley Draper was a wonderful performer... it is worth looking into. Did he sing also? Anyone know? It is still a mystery ... :?:You are not allowed to view links. Register or Loginthis video ,right?, and also i agree with what you just said!, everyone wonders who the mj in this video was/is!
Quote from: "truthprevails"I'd give Michael 40 in TII. Wylie might have looked somewhat like a young Michael, BUT Wylie was 11 years younger than MJ and he was black... MJ's skin turned white in time due to vitiligo. I think it would have been hard for Wylie to keep up with the changes in MJ's appearance - and Wylie didn't seem to have any interest in being an MJ impersonator or double.I was recently thinking about Wylie possibly being in the mix somehow, too, and then this thread came up! He danced so much like Michael and he looked very much like him too. I am not saying he was a twin or relative ,or not, but he could have been involved as a double all these years and not really died..I saw an interview with his mother at the time of his role as Michael in the film... I always wondered why such a talented person like him, and especially connected to Michael career - wise, did not have more admiration and information in the media then and since then.. perhaps it was kept quiet for obvious reasons?It may sound like an impossibility.. but when you think about it, anything can be possible when all the right ingredients are put together.Makeup ( "even" skin tones , whether light or dark,etc)and with some cosmetic surgery( as a previous poster has already mentioned) and tuition for the "look" and manner and speaking voice of Michael could make it all believable..The photo of him in the garden at Havenhurst was so incredibly like Michael. Also, (and I am sorry I cannot remember the actual you tube video) there was a speech and outdoor ceremony when Michael( in blue sparkly military uniform and short hair( he was about mid 20's old) was standing at the microphones , next to Dionne Warwick, I think...He seemed to be extremely nervous and needed prompting from her etc.and found it hard to speak, and as he was walking off the platform he seemed extremely nervous as he looked back... for a second there I wondered if it was Wiley, because just before that , in the video,some merchandise was being held up and a white t-shirt with what looked like Wiley's face(as seen in the film) was printed on it.. it really did not seem to be a picture of Michael.. more like Wiley..with plump cheeks..Maybe his illness and death were real and I do not want to be disrespectful if that is the truth,and I may be right off track,with my opinions here.. but Wiley Draper was a wonderful performer... it is worth looking into. Did he sing also? Anyone know? It is still a mystery ... :?:
I'd give Michael 40 in TII. Wylie might have looked somewhat like a young Michael, BUT Wylie was 11 years younger than MJ and he was black... MJ's skin turned white in time due to vitiligo. I think it would have been hard for Wylie to keep up with the changes in MJ's appearance - and Wylie didn't seem to have any interest in being an MJ impersonator or double.
to loyalfan:All I am saying is that it is soooo odd the death date of Wylie being the exact same as the Neverland Invasion and the fact that it's so obvious there is mystery behind Wylie's death as well as Michael's. If Wylie in fact had no real family to answer to or for and was someone who lived his whole life wanting to be like Michael *Yes he even walked the halls of his High School drama dept. wearing "The Glove"* then how far would Wylie have gone for Michael? It's all a bit fascinating and strange.Nefari
Quote from: "MagentaLOVES"Quote from: "lettingitsimmer"Quote from: "truthprevails"I'd give Michael 40 in TII. Wylie might have looked somewhat like a young Michael, BUT Wylie was 11 years younger than MJ and he was black... MJ's skin turned white in time due to vitiligo. I think it would have been hard for Wylie to keep up with the changes in MJ's appearance - and Wylie didn't seem to have any interest in being an MJ impersonator or double.I was recently thinking about Wylie possibly being in the mix somehow, too, and then this thread came up! He danced so much like Michael and he looked very much like him too. I am not saying he was a twin or relative ,or not, but he could have been involved as a double all these years and not really died..I saw an interview with his mother at the time of his role as Michael in the film... I always wondered why such a talented person like him, and especially connected to Michael career - wise, did not have more admiration and information in the media then and since then.. perhaps it was kept quiet for obvious reasons?It may sound like an impossibility.. but when you think about it, anything can be possible when all the right ingredients are put together.Makeup ( "even" skin tones , whether light or dark,etc)and with some cosmetic surgery( as a previous poster has already mentioned) and tuition for the "look" and manner and speaking voice of Michael could make it all believable..The photo of him in the garden at Havenhurst was so incredibly like Michael. Also, (and I am sorry I cannot remember the actual you tube video) there was a speech and outdoor ceremony when Michael( in blue sparkly military uniform and short hair( he was about mid 20's old) was standing at the microphones , next to Dionne Warwick, I think...He seemed to be extremely nervous and needed prompting from her etc.and found it hard to speak, and as he was walking off the platform he seemed extremely nervous as he looked back... for a second there I wondered if it was Wiley, because just before that , in the video,some merchandise was being held up and a white t-shirt with what looked like Wiley's face(as seen in the film) was printed on it.. it really did not seem to be a picture of Michael.. more like Wiley..with plump cheeks..Maybe his illness and death were real and I do not want to be disrespectful if that is the truth,and I may be right off track,with my opinions here.. but Wiley Draper was a wonderful performer... it is worth looking into. Did he sing also? Anyone know? It is still a mystery ... :?:You are not allowed to view links. Register or Loginthis video ,right?, and also i agree with what you just said!, everyone wonders who the mj in this video was/is!I don't think that was Michael. I think it was his twin or double. The eyes look too large be Michael and he really looked nervous. He acted like he was wiping sweat off his face due the nervousness. I know it's not Wylie, because he was 17 and Michael was 28.This was during the 1986 Grammys. I remember watching it. But I have seen photos of Wylie and people say it Michael. I will try to find them. When Wylie performed in MJ's Remember the time video. He didn't look sick. IMO You are right it's still a mystery and worth looking into.
I too have entertained that exact scenario but I just feel that Wylie is gone, passed away and there is no evidence of the vault being opened recently except one thing I noticed last time I went down there that I had not seen before. I could have just over looked it before but there is now a slight roof leak or issue barely noticable right directly above Wylie's drawer and I mentioned it to my husband. He said probably just from the building being older and settling. It very well could be all there is to it but it concerns me because I don't want anything happening to Wylie's crypt. To someone not observing every detail you would not see it. But I have stood many times underneath that crypt saying a prayer, blowing kisses to Wylie before I leave and I did notice that wall/roof area little stain. I think next time I go I might just walk around behind the mausoleum to the back side of Wylie's crypt and see what I see from the outside, if that's possible. That's something I have never done before.
Quote from: "techdiva"Quote from: "MagentaLOVES"Quote from: "lettingitsimmer"Quote from: "truthprevails"I'd give Michael 40 in TII. Wylie might have looked somewhat like a young Michael, BUT Wylie was 11 years younger than MJ and he was black... MJ's skin turned white in time due to vitiligo. I think it would have been hard for Wylie to keep up with the changes in MJ's appearance - and Wylie didn't seem to have any interest in being an MJ impersonator or double.I was recently thinking about Wylie possibly being in the mix somehow, too, and then this thread came up! He danced so much like Michael and he looked very much like him too. I am not saying he was a twin or relative ,or not, but he could have been involved as a double all these years and not really died..I saw an interview with his mother at the time of his role as Michael in the film... I always wondered why such a talented person like him, and especially connected to Michael career - wise, did not have more admiration and information in the media then and since then.. perhaps it was kept quiet for obvious reasons?It may sound like an impossibility.. but when you think about it, anything can be possible when all the right ingredients are put together.Makeup ( "even" skin tones , whether light or dark,etc)and with some cosmetic surgery( as a previous poster has already mentioned) and tuition for the "look" and manner and speaking voice of Michael could make it all believable..The photo of him in the garden at Havenhurst was so incredibly like Michael. Also, (and I am sorry I cannot remember the actual you tube video) there was a speech and outdoor ceremony when Michael( in blue sparkly military uniform and short hair( he was about mid 20's old) was standing at the microphones , next to Dionne Warwick, I think...He seemed to be extremely nervous and needed prompting from her etc.and found it hard to speak, and as he was walking off the platform he seemed extremely nervous as he looked back... for a second there I wondered if it was Wiley, because just before that , in the video,some merchandise was being held up and a white t-shirt with what looked like Wiley's face(as seen in the film) was printed on it.. it really did not seem to be a picture of Michael.. more like Wiley..with plump cheeks..Maybe his illness and death were real and I do not want to be disrespectful if that is the truth,and I may be right off track,with my opinions here.. but Wiley Draper was a wonderful performer... it is worth looking into. Did he sing also? Anyone know? It is still a mystery ... :?:You are not allowed to view links. Register or Loginthis video ,right?, and also i agree with what you just said!, everyone wonders who the mj in this video was/is!I don't think that was Michael. I think it was his twin or double. The eyes look too large be Michael and he really looked nervous. He acted like he was wiping sweat off his face due the nervousness. I know it's not Wylie, because he was 17 and Michael was 28.This was during the 1986 Grammys. I remember watching it. But I have seen photos of Wylie and people say it Michael. I will try to find them. When Wylie performed in MJ's Remember the time video. He didn't look sick. IMO You are right it's still a mystery and worth looking into.don't forget Michael was a shy man at that time, if he were a double he wouldn't have removed his sun glasses. That was him. He looks so much as Janet.
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