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Jackson's Autopsy is not Authentic (PROOF)

Started by MO_1219, April 15, 2010, 11:00:09 PM

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M
April 15, 2010, 11:00:09 PM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Don't know this had been post or not  :D
The LA LOGO is old one!?

[youtube:306zgb5w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL6Ob4fOOpI&playnext_from=TL&videos=4V77vtQnqUo[/youtube:306zgb5w]

[youtube:306zgb5w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3svFnpD-fgI&playnext_from=TL&videos=yS4WvhZ2llw[/youtube:306zgb5w]


T
April 15, 2010, 11:05:29 PM #1 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

OMG!!!!!!  :o  :P


J
April 16, 2010, 12:11:41 AM #2 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "MO_1219"

Don't know this had been post or not  :D
The LA LOGO is old one!?

[youtube:3ivsfpis]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL6Ob4fOOpI&playnext_from=TL&videos=4V77vtQnqUo[/youtube:3ivsfpis]

[youtube:3ivsfpis]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3svFnpD-fgI&playnext_from=TL&videos=yS4WvhZ2llw[/youtube:3ivsfpis]

It's a logo.  That's all it is.  It doesn't change the validity of a report.

V
April 16, 2010, 12:18:50 AM #3 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Yes, it's been posted before but thank you for bringing this up again. It is just a logo but what I find interesting is that it's several years old. One would think that it would have been totally replaced by now with the new one. Thanks.

I'm proud to be a child of God and a member of MJ's Army of L.O.V.E.
 
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J
April 16, 2010, 12:38:46 AM #4 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

if the seal is old and dated, it does take away it's authenticity because it isn't up to date.


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April 16, 2010, 01:47:16 AM #5 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Jacksonology"

if the seal is old and dated, it does take away it's authenticity because it isn't up to date.

I think you might draw the wrong conclusion here.  WHY would they use and old seal/stationary for most likely one of their most important and loaded autopsy reports ever?

Back in August the coroners office released a WORD document WITHOUT any letterhead/logo/seal in which they state that manner of death has been ruled homicide, and then in February they release an autopsy report with an old seal.  Sorry, but I'm not buying this kind of "sloppiness".


M
April 16, 2010, 02:02:51 AM #6 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I have studied about CI system, I think that a (VI)LOGO is so important for a organization. :lol:
and I find that the old LOGO did not use after 2004, so why it appear in a 2009 autopsy :lol:
LA gov is so careless? OMG XD


I
April 16, 2010, 02:19:50 AM #7 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "MO_1219"

I have studied about CI system, I think that a (VI)LOGO is so important for a organization. :lol:
and I find that the old LOGO did not use after 2004, so why it appear in a 2009 autopsy :lol:
LA gov is so careless? OMG XD

So if the LOGO is from 2004 and before that, do you think the "date" is significant dates always seem to have a part to play in all of this, and of course 2004 is before the "trial" 2005?  Do you see where I am going with this? :oops:  :?

Everything seems to be to do with period around 2005?


J
April 16, 2010, 04:07:53 AM #8 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

The old seal is also on Patrick Swayze's death certificate. It's huge so I'll just link instead of trying to post it - http://www.starmagazine.com/media/origi ... _Cert2.jpg

Also there's this:

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Re: TIAI coroner again
Postby let me speak ยป Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:12 am

bad news guys!!! from page 41 onward they use the correct seal,.

did some researching and here's what i found: there are two seals in use, though the old seal was replaced in 2004 with the new one, it appears that they are still both in use, i've seen an autopsy report from 2008 and it's still the old seal

sorry!!!!!!


H
April 16, 2010, 04:16:28 AM #9 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Here i have found the Homepage from the LA Coroner....does they allways use the old seal ?

http://coroner.co.la.ca.us/lacoronr.htm


J
April 16, 2010, 04:29:35 AM #10 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Hopeless"

Here i have found the Homepage from the LA Coroner....does they allways use the old seal ?

http://coroner.co.la.ca.us/lacoronr.htm

I did some research into this a while back. The seal on MJ's death cert (yes I realize the topic is the autopsy report but anyways..) is the old one as is Patrick Swayze's. But MJ's page 2 of 2 that was printed on Jan 8 2010 has the new one. Brittany Murphy, Casey Johnson, and Marie Osmond's son all have the new seal on their DCs.

H
April 16, 2010, 04:36:53 AM #11 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I am a little bit confused...

here the second side from the coroner with the new seal.... :o

http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/Coroner_Home.htm

I have not the time...sadly, it will be interesting to look deeper...but i have to work.

Only the first i saw in the first look.
The phone number in this second homepage was not the same.
On the first page they put the phone number that was on the secone page only for sundays and holidays and outside the normal business times.
On the first side there where two more adresses in Sylmar and Lancaster...

I must see ...later... :(


T
April 16, 2010, 04:47:47 AM #12 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

the death certificate is not valid imo, because wasn't originally signed by a doctor, but by latoya. even if they used the right seal there.

for the autopsy report, i don't see why they would use two different seals (not 'just a logo', it's their official seal!) on the autospy report of one person. it has to be continous in an official paper like that, no matter if they still use the old one. it should be consistent, i totally go with mo here, i'm not buying the sloppiness.
it is highly unusual to be using two different seals from the same institution on one document or case. that would make it legally invalid here in germany. because the minute the new seal is used, the old one becomes automatically invalid, so people can't mess with that. there is no way that two seals would be used at the same time.

i have not seen a document in this case yet that appears legally valid to me.

waiting... :mrgreen:

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H
April 16, 2010, 04:56:48 AM #13 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

It goes round through my head...

I don't knwo how it is in USA...here in germany when a physician works at a pathologic institute, he only work there...they had enough to do, so i think it was also in LA....they don't have less autopsies i believe.
So i look after the Chief Medical Examiner Coroner Lakshamanan Sathyavagiswaran M.D. and i only can find him in Arcadia Californien. Has he a praxis there or what ? Why he was not most found in combination with the Coroner ?

http://www.healthgrades.com/directory_s ... d-16c70901

http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Lakshm ... waran.html


J
April 16, 2010, 05:01:52 AM #14 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "tabloidburn"

the death certificate is not valid imo, because wasn't originally signed by a doctor, but by latoya. even if they used the right seal there.

for the autopsy report, i don't see why they would use two different seals (not 'just a logo', it's their official seal!) on the autospy report of one person. it has to be continous in an official paper like that, no matter if they still use the old one. it should be consistent, i totally go with mo here, i'm not buying the sloppiness.
it is highly unusual to be using two different seals from the same institution on one document or case. that would make it legally invalid here in germany. because the minute the new seal is used, the old one becomes automatically invalid, so people can't mess with that. there is no way that two seals would be used at the same time.

i have not seen a document in this case yet that appears legally valid to me.

waiting... :mrgreen:

I agree that it's totally weird to use two different seals on the whole case report/autopsy report. It makes absolutely no sense. It irks me that things can be considered legally binding even when they're wrong - even something as simple as spelling errors. My god if you're going to be submitting a document as evidence, can't you at least take the time to spell check/proofread? Even worse is that the EKG that came out could still hold up in court even if the time was set wrong on the AED. That's really insanely stupid in my opinion. Times and dates are so vital especially in a possible murder case.  :?

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