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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 13, 2010, 02:53:22 AM
I have been wondering something ..
I remember when Latoya said they didn't do open casket because michael's face damaged during CPR ..
so did it report on autopsy report ? anybody know about that ?  :roll:
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You gave me strenght when I wasn\'t strong ..
You gave me hope when all hope was lost ..
You open my eyes when I couldn\'t see ..
Thank you for everything, Michael ..
ILYSM !

ladyandbird

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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 13, 2010, 03:03:02 AM
Quote from: "LavdHim"
I have been wondering something ..
I remember when Latoya said they didn't do open casket because michael's face damaged during CPR ..
so did it report on autopsy report ? anybody know about that ?  :roll:

It was so long ago I read the autopsy report so I don't remember. What I find amusing is that LaToya first goes around telling how peaceful he looked, just as he was asleep, and then he is to damaged to even show in an open casket. She seems to have troubles with her memory, but I guess it's hard to keep track of everything you're saying when you're lying.

And I still can't see how a face could get so damaged by a CPR.
What, when they gave mouth to mouth they suddenly decided to take a big bite?  :D
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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 13, 2010, 03:34:40 AM
Quote from: "ladyandbird"
Quote from: "LavdHim"
I have been wondering something ..
I remember when Latoya said they didn't do open casket because michael's face damaged during CPR ..
so did it report on autopsy report ? anybody know about that ? :roll:

It was so long ago I read the autopsy report so I don't remember. What I find amusing is that LaToya first goes around telling how peaceful he looked, just as he was asleep, and then he is to damaged to even show in an open casket. She seems to have troubles with her memory, but I guess it's hard to keep track of everything you're saying when you're lying.

And I still can't see how a face could get so damaged by a CPR.
What, when they gave mouth to mouth they suddenly decided to take a big bite? :D

thanks for reply ..  :)
yeah I also think it's weird to have the face damaged because of CPR ..
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You gave me strenght when I wasn\'t strong ..
You gave me hope when all hope was lost ..
You open my eyes when I couldn\'t see ..
Thank you for everything, Michael ..
ILYSM !

somekindofsign

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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 13, 2010, 09:02:40 AM
You´re all welcome!

Ok, I´ve finished adding things from the question list, and those that you all added here, some more that I´ve rememebered...
So we have an Hoax´s layout or basic lines. From here we can add details and from time to time I can collect them on the list and post it...


O2 - TII The Tour Announcement
-The concert plans - how many, where, who is involved
-A tour in one city
-The ticket sales
-The visits to the doctors
-AEG life insurance drug overdose
-The strange message of MJ in the announcement.
-The not ended sentence “These will be my final show performances because...”
-Unmasking the kids
-Delaying TII Tour first dates
- The dancers signed to 2 year contracts

The REHERSALS - DOME PROJECT
-We see him thin, but he´s always been.
-Could be weak and tired, but we also see him splendid.
-The lack of time, the sets built in USA have to be finished and shipped.
-The wardrobe.
-It all keeps on being finished after June 25.
-The insomnia problems

CAROLWOOD
-Michael rents this house were a Walt Disney house and Disney´s You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login were once
-Michael cares about his health and feeding
-Michael is/was supposed to suffer from various weakness, diseases, none of them heart related. But he hires a cardiologist. Ok one of his healthy systems is now safer. What are the chances to die from a failure of that system?
-Conflicting stories of staff
-Staff quickly fired
- Murray's account of what happened
-The moving van at the house
-The delay of the LAPD raid
- The family's statements
-The missing (?) tapes
-The missing MJ´s hard drive
-The 911 call. The versions,  the lack of emotion, calling from a hotel.
-The CPR
-The scene of the facts. The medical supplies and tools.
-The bloody shirt
-The presence of the children
-The witnesses
-The trash cans
-MJ sighing?

THE AMBULANCE
-The speed and the backwards
-The ambulance pic, Ben Evenstad & National Photo Group
-The false call of the paramedics
-Number 71 ambulance does not exist

UCLA
-Murray and bodyguards are there. Murray´s car is in Carolwood
-The fire alarm (provides little witnesses around) at 200 Medical Center Building in the Peter Morton Center. The building next door to the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center Hospital
-CCTV Footage
-Family contradictions about when he was alive or not.
-Family contradictions about where were them and how did they know.
-Hospital with a special unit to revive under certain conditions.
 (What if he was taken into death under control?)
-The long CPR
-The media coverage of Michael's "collapse"/"coma"/"death"
-TMZ says first
-The announcement of Michael's death by Jermaine
-Thome Thome there
-The absence of people at UCLA speaking or telling to see him
-The trash cans
-The pics dated from June 24 20:00
-Oxman says Jackie has reported him that they “took” MJ “from” hospital at 11:30

HELICOPTER
-A not standard procedure to transport a dead body (show?)
-A fast mean for a no rush situation.
-The doors are open - to make sure people see?
-The white sheets
-Where did the photographers come from who were filming the transport and how did they know?
-The changing sizes and weights of who/what is on the stretcher
-The movement in the helicopter
-The helicopter number and license out of service for ages

THE LAPD VAN
-The MJ jumping out of the van and the RTL video
-LAX Airport closed that day

THE WILL
-The mistaken names of the children.
-MJ was not in LA.
-The State, AEG & Sony, The Beatles Catalogue, it´s remastering.
-Mottola, Branca, Frank di leo
-Sony Deal
-Custody of the children to Katherine, and Diana Ross(?!!!)
-Joe revoking the will with Oxman.
-Creditors claims... including Stinky Films

THE MEMORIAL
-The circus
-WATW rehearsed by TII staff
-The huge show in little time
-Liberian girl allusions
-Changes in the lyrics: PainS, Jermaine reverses the meaning of the song "Smile"
-“I'm alive and I'm here forever” on the back screen.
-The first casquet.
-KO slip up.
-Still in present.
-The presences and absences
-Paris half heart
-Closed casket, face damaged? Probably not

OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION
-Autopsies leaked. The wrong MJ descriptions, the lack of some scares, the names...
-The family´s physical examination report (not leaked)
-Toxicology report (not leaked)
-The death certificate
-LAPD
-LASD
-The lost and travelling body and parts. The eyes, the brain.
-Latoya and Joe talks about murder and conspiracy
-Latoya says she witnessed the autopsy and signed the death certificate
-Larry king

FUNERAL AND FOREST LAWN
-Delaying the funeral
-Forest Lawn and the walking set
-Liberian girl allusions
-The presences and absences
-The dancers hired for the funeral
-The second casquet
-The trash cans
-The grave with no name
-The strange pattern on who does and doesn´t visit it.
-The OTHER funeral

TII THE FILM
-KO
-Dancers, Travis Payne. The drills and the inmates.  Still the King.
-Sony
-Lack of "On Memory". Not dedicated to MJ, but to the kids.
-Jermaine: This is it but this is not really it.
-Some family members are against
-The messages of denounce, the songs choice
-The messages of adventure for a change
-The colour bracelets
-The dome project, the movies inside TII

JACK5ONS Reality
-The wrong cementery and the OTHER funeral relation (Hombly Hills / Glendale)
-The Jack5ons Tour
-Jermaine´s tributes
-The Fifth Jackson

WATW 50 for Haiti
-The place of the recording
-Lionel Richie and Quincy Jones
-The green man
-The presences and the absences
-The Grammy Awards, Paris and Prince speech.

JACKSONS REAL REALITY AT ENCINO
-Stunt guns, the kids, Blanket in danger?
-Jermaine´s ex wife
-Halima & Thome Thome

MURRAY´S CASE
-Possible relation between Murray and James Brown´s death.
-Possible introduction of Murray to MJ by Joe
-Murray´s disappearance before death declaration
-Murray´s youtube video from unknown source, letter to patients (June 15)
-The first hearing, the court full of prop (atrezzo?), LAX
-Don´t go sedating people
-The trash cans at the first hearing
-The bail. Paid / Not paid
-The date released from jail according to the LAPD
-Murray´s licenses and clinics, the abandoned one in Houston
-Murrays´s always back to work
-Murrays family (Blanche Murray), past, and economic supposed troubles
-The digging up of the tomb
-The defence line before the second hearing. Michael killed himself.
-The syringe, propofol hidden, Murray´s declaration
- Fool Prop, Prop of Fool, Full of Prop
-Alberto Alvarez
-We saw the first hearing and we know nothing about the second.
-Who pays for Murray´s expenses

NEVERLAND
-Who owns it?
-The movements there, the concrete and helicopter
-The auctions

THE FAMILY
-Latoya knows how to keep a secret
-Jackie makes the odd statement about seeing his brother soon
-Joe promoting his label (but never talking again about it) and laughing with Jesse Jackson


FRIENDS:
-Chris Angel and BELIEVE
-Dave Dave at Larry King. DD a Believer
-Karen Faye weird behaviour, saying she made-up the corpse...
-Devie Rowie renounces to kids
-Tom Masereu

CONSTANTS:
-All televised/filmed/pictured (but body)
-All Murray stuff posed
-All the new songs leaked
-All the old footage leaked, released
-All the slips up (the Grammys, the airport…)
-All the documents leaked: Death certificate, autopsies´ reports, will, Murray´s criminal records, 911 call, false ambo call, controversial MJ´s coming out of the van, Murray´s defence allegations, Murray´s letter to the patients, LASD records-All the documents have reasons to possibly be suspicious of fake and/or to the hoax.
-All the numbers coincidences and repetitions
-All the colours coincidences and repetitions: blue, red, black and white (Michael´s)  / yellow, purple, red, green (hoax)
-All the concepts coincidences and repetitions: Butterflies, Disney´s tales and characters, L.O.V.E, BeLIEve
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ladyandbird

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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 13, 2010, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"

JACK5ONS Reality
-The wrong cementery and the OTHER funeral relation (Hombly Hills / Glendale)
-The Jack5ons Tour
-Jermaine´s tributes
-The Fifth Jackson

In one episode, they talk about how sad it is that Michael isn't "with them anymore"
and then they go into the studio to discuss a new song or something like that. Suddenly
they remember that "Oh, it's Janets birthday today, let's call and congratulate her!"
But wait a minute.. Janets birthday is May 16th and Michael supposedly died June 25th.
That just doesn't add up.
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somekindofsign

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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 13, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
Good one!
I think it was on episode 1 or 2, as I recall it and I only see those two available on the internet...
I want to watch that part again. I would like to se the rest of the series...
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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 14, 2010, 12:17:15 PM
Quote
The REHERSALS - DOME PROJECT
-We see him thin, but he´s always been.
-Could be weak and tired, but we also see him splendid.
-The lack of time, the sets built in USA have to be finished and shipped.
-The wardrobe.
-It all keeps on being finished after June 25.
-The insomnia problems

-Last night: Thanks, I can take it from here (what ever happened that morning it was something that Michael had planned for a long time...)

How exactly was quote and who said so... Mottola? to add it to the list correctly...
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ladyandbird

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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 14, 2010, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote
The REHERSALS - DOME PROJECT
-We see him thin, but he´s always been.
-Could be weak and tired, but we also see him splendid.
-The lack of time, the sets built in USA have to be finished and shipped.
-The wardrobe.
-It all keeps on being finished after June 25.
-The insomnia problems

-Last night: Thanks, I can take it from here (what ever happened that morning it was something that Michael had planned for a long time...)

How exactly was quote and who said so... Mottola? to add it to the list correctly...

To Randy Phillips
Phillips says. "He put his arms around me, and, in that little, lilting voice of his, he said, 'Thank you for getting me this far. Now I can take it from here. I know I can do this.'
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somekindofsign

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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 14, 2010, 12:40:05 PM
Thank you ladyandbird!
I´ll add that together with your new one...
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the arabian nights

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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 14, 2010, 02:41:11 PM
sightings

[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcFcosN1_Ag[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]

1. switzerland
[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x47wM0ykBKE[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]

2. Hat man
[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkuKFqfkMmU[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]
[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdb6XboPI2g[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]

3. woman

4. Pig Saw

5. Tech man

6. Green Man

7. house in berlin
[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRFU_hj6cM8&NR=1[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]

8. Bet awards - but is it ernest valentino
[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fYY9hmezCI&feature=fvw[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]

9. Randy's car 27/06/09
[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLdzEL25vPI[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]

10. unsure when
[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSnigtN-2V0[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]
[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EV3wId3jcM[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]

11. mj by the ambulance
[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrmlVO_w0T8[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]

12. dd
[youtube:1nvb0dk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AHGs5Oq_uA[/youtube:1nvb0dk1]
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Kirsche

Re: Hoax Recap?
April 16, 2010, 05:12:58 PM
I have another thing for recap

# Michael Jackson Memorial (2009) (TV) (performer: "Will You Be There")
... aka "Michael Jackson Memorial Service" - USA (alternative title)


Found it on:

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Every time I see this, the "PainS" thing pops up in my head.... yeah of course he was the performer there  :D



And I just can't get over it, that the Memorial is on the IMDB...but where's the funeral? :P
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OKAY, EVERBODY! THAT\'S A WRAP!

somekindofsign

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Re: Hoax Recap?
April 16, 2010, 05:18:42 PM
Kirsche, the Memorial is on the imdb because its worldwide broadcasting is a production itself.
The funeral is not, because is not a production, it´s a footage broadcasted in what ever TV program chose to do so... a part of many TV programs that surely are on the imdb.  ;)  :(
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