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Quote from: "naomifury"Maybe the upper lip looks lower because the nose is different? I'm not sure, just throwin that out there...I really, really am trying to be open minded about the possibility of doubles, but I'm not really convinced. In my opinion that is Michael, as well as the others discussed in this particular thread.Nope, the nose is already different in the BAD era, and they do match. They eyes are too big as well, the 'hang' more. Like I said, I have doubts, I am not 100% sure but to me it's not a match. And the others I posted in the first post, all match.@awesome1, that would be right for the bottom lip, not the upper lip.
Maybe the upper lip looks lower because the nose is different? I'm not sure, just throwin that out there...I really, really am trying to be open minded about the possibility of doubles, but I'm not really convinced. In my opinion that is Michael, as well as the others discussed in this particular thread.
I know what this thread it's about, but would you mind posting some random pics of the man you say is not Michael (from all Eras you've found doubles), please? Not comparing, just the pics. Thanks, it would be very much appreciated.(Maybe is not a good idea post them here because people may get confused.)
Quote from: "Raven"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "Raven"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "Raven"@Souza I think it's all a double with a prosthetic mask on.You are seriously starting to annoy me Raven, I ask a serious question here. You can either answer in a normal way, or stay away from the double threads.This is not a double thread. Why is it annoying...as I'm doing the same you did. When I said it was Michael himself you also replied it was a double with a mask on, and I also noted along the lines it started to become annoying. What's the difference?The difference is that I compare pics and you just say "It's Michael Jackson". O2 dude can't be compared, we have no eyes. If try to compare O2 dude's mouth is already too wide. A good comparison is impossible with the glasses on. I am done with people like you just 'stating their opinion', ridiculing others without any arguments. I had the discussion with mykidsmum as well, but she at least posts her own comparisons. You are only stirring the threads up. If you don't think there were doubles and you will not contribute to the thread proving us wrong, just stay away from these threads.'Nuff said...Ow I've given enough arguments, it's not true what you say. I've mentioned the scar near his lower lip. I've mentioned scars on his chin. I've mentioned the scar on his cheek. I've reposted a picture of yours that you used for comparison in black and white you couldn't get to match because it was in mirror-image. But you've all done away with them as 'that can be artificially added' or 'it's a prosthetic mask'.Yes, because it's POSSIBLE nowadays, but you just ignored that and went on with sarcastic remarks. That's the last thing I will say about it, since this discussion is not the issue here. I am awaiting your comparisons...
Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "Raven"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "Raven"@Souza I think it's all a double with a prosthetic mask on.You are seriously starting to annoy me Raven, I ask a serious question here. You can either answer in a normal way, or stay away from the double threads.This is not a double thread. Why is it annoying...as I'm doing the same you did. When I said it was Michael himself you also replied it was a double with a mask on, and I also noted along the lines it started to become annoying. What's the difference?The difference is that I compare pics and you just say "It's Michael Jackson". O2 dude can't be compared, we have no eyes. If try to compare O2 dude's mouth is already too wide. A good comparison is impossible with the glasses on. I am done with people like you just 'stating their opinion', ridiculing others without any arguments. I had the discussion with mykidsmum as well, but she at least posts her own comparisons. You are only stirring the threads up. If you don't think there were doubles and you will not contribute to the thread proving us wrong, just stay away from these threads.'Nuff said...Ow I've given enough arguments, it's not true what you say. I've mentioned the scar near his lower lip. I've mentioned scars on his chin. I've mentioned the scar on his cheek. I've reposted a picture of yours that you used for comparison in black and white you couldn't get to match because it was in mirror-image. But you've all done away with them as 'that can be artificially added' or 'it's a prosthetic mask'.
Quote from: "Raven"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "Raven"@Souza I think it's all a double with a prosthetic mask on.You are seriously starting to annoy me Raven, I ask a serious question here. You can either answer in a normal way, or stay away from the double threads.This is not a double thread. Why is it annoying...as I'm doing the same you did. When I said it was Michael himself you also replied it was a double with a mask on, and I also noted along the lines it started to become annoying. What's the difference?The difference is that I compare pics and you just say "It's Michael Jackson". O2 dude can't be compared, we have no eyes. If try to compare O2 dude's mouth is already too wide. A good comparison is impossible with the glasses on. I am done with people like you just 'stating their opinion', ridiculing others without any arguments. I had the discussion with mykidsmum as well, but she at least posts her own comparisons. You are only stirring the threads up. If you don't think there were doubles and you will not contribute to the thread proving us wrong, just stay away from these threads.'Nuff said...
Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "Raven"@Souza I think it's all a double with a prosthetic mask on.You are seriously starting to annoy me Raven, I ask a serious question here. You can either answer in a normal way, or stay away from the double threads.This is not a double thread. Why is it annoying...as I'm doing the same you did. When I said it was Michael himself you also replied it was a double with a mask on, and I also noted along the lines it started to become annoying. What's the difference?
Quote from: "Raven"@Souza I think it's all a double with a prosthetic mask on.You are seriously starting to annoy me Raven, I ask a serious question here. You can either answer in a normal way, or stay away from the double threads.
@Souza I think it's all a double with a prosthetic mask on.
hmmm... the pic in the yellow shirt..can you compare it to the one from the HIStory era? I would do it but I dnt know how :oops: please and thank you...... a lot to think about now
Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "Raven"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "Raven"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "Raven"@Souza I think it's all a double with a prosthetic mask on.You are seriously starting to annoy me Raven, I ask a serious question here. You can either answer in a normal way, or stay away from the double threads.This is not a double thread. Why is it annoying...as I'm doing the same you did. When I said it was Michael himself you also replied it was a double with a mask on, and I also noted along the lines it started to become annoying. What's the difference?The difference is that I compare pics and you just say "It's Michael Jackson". O2 dude can't be compared, we have no eyes. If try to compare O2 dude's mouth is already too wide. A good comparison is impossible with the glasses on. I am done with people like you just 'stating their opinion', ridiculing others without any arguments. I had the discussion with mykidsmum as well, but she at least posts her own comparisons. You are only stirring the threads up. If you don't think there were doubles and you will not contribute to the thread proving us wrong, just stay away from these threads.'Nuff said...Ow I've given enough arguments, it's not true what you say. I've mentioned the scar near his lower lip. I've mentioned scars on his chin. I've mentioned the scar on his cheek. I've reposted a picture of yours that you used for comparison in black and white you couldn't get to match because it was in mirror-image. But you've all done away with them as 'that can be artificially added' or 'it's a prosthetic mask'.Yes, because it's POSSIBLE nowadays, but you just ignored that and went on with sarcastic remarks. That's the last thing I will say about it, since this discussion is not the issue here. I am awaiting your comparisons...I don't need to proof anything here. If you claim someone is not Michael, the burden of evidence is yours. I've also explained in the very beginning that IMO it's disrespectful towards Michael publically examining his face to the microscopic level the way you are doing, he would have HATED it, so that is another reason I won't do any comparisons. I've mentioned that plastic surgery is good nowadays (as is prosthetic make-up), but NOT to the detailed extent some people in here suggest.Other contributions you've ignored: I've explained that if the jaw moves with the lips closed the chin appears longer. I've explained that if the head is tilted forward the length of the chin visually appears shorter and the forehead appears longer on photo due to the 3D effect. So that whole remark of yours "I am done with people like you just 'stating their opinion', ridiculing others without any arguments." is just totally untrue.
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