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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 11, 2010, 07:49:46 PM
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What I find VERY amusing is exactly How is it that everyone who has commented that THIS IS NOT Michael Jackson's handwriting,

 Do you have a degree in handwriting analysis?

Do you have up close and personal intimate relationship with Mr. Michael Jackson to know for sure that this is NOT his handwriting?

 :lol:

For me the signatures look so SIMILIAR that it VERY well can be MJ's handwriting.

The actual writings are more POETIC than anything and apply more to anything else if you really wanna know. And um hello I do think I see a star ON ALL the writings..

Look for the clues the right way...

Food for thought..

 :geek:
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 11, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
Quote from: "Loes"
Here's his handwriting and autograph on a painting of his own




This is off the subject.  I am truly humbled by MJ's artistic genius and his fine draughtsmanship. Simply breath-taking. xxxx
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You rocked my world, you know you did
And everything I own I give
The rarest love who\'d think I\'d find
Someone like you to call mine




"Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation."
------Michael Jackson


Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. --Oscar Wilde

Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 11, 2010, 09:45:11 PM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
8-)


What I find VERY amusing is exactly How is it that everyone who has commented that THIS IS NOT Michael Jackson's handwriting,

 Do you have a degree in handwriting analysis?

Do you have up close and personal intimate relationship with Mr. Michael Jackson to know for sure that this is NOT his handwriting?

 :lol:

For me the signatures look so SIMILIAR that it VERY well can be MJ's handwriting.

The actual writings are more POETIC than anything and apply more to anything else if you really wanna know. And um hello I do think I see a star ON ALL the writings..

Look for the clues the right way...

Food for thought..

 :geek:

Agreed.
There's nothing to make me think it's NOT MJ's writing.
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 11, 2010, 10:10:09 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
8-)


What I find VERY amusing is exactly How is it that everyone who has commented that THIS IS NOT Michael Jackson's handwriting,

 Do you have a degree in handwriting analysis?

Do you have up close and personal intimate relationship with Mr. Michael Jackson to know for sure that this is NOT his handwriting?

 :lol:

For me the signatures look so SIMILIAR that it VERY well can be MJ's handwriting.

The actual writings are more POETIC than anything and apply more to anything else if you really wanna know. And um hello I do think I see a star ON ALL the writings..

Look for the clues the right way...

Food for thought..

 :geek:

Agreed.
There's nothing to make me think it's NOT MJ's writing.

Ok...  So can anyone answer the question of where it comes from and when it was written?  It looks forged because the star on the end didn't blend with the rest of the letters like it usually does.  Also, the person seemed to struggle with the elaborate"J" that's in the middle of his name.  In addition, he tends to mix capital letters with lowercase letters indiscriminately when he writes.  Those are my reasons for questioning it's authenticity.
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 11, 2010, 10:21:36 PM
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Quote from: "ladyandbird"
Quote from: "TracyK"
Yes, someones artwork. This is not MJ's writing.
A persons handwriting isn't always consistant is it?
And I think it changes with what you're writing with aswell.


These dont look like Michaels handswriting at all..  i think these are fakes

Yes, I agree. He also mix caps with small letters.
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 11, 2010, 10:42:52 PM
Oh, sorry nynyro, I did not see you said the same thing about the caps^^^^...  :oops:
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 11, 2010, 11:37:58 PM
I posted this topic awhile back. It explains where the writings are from and where they were going to be used:

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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 12, 2010, 12:08:00 AM
Tabi ni yamite   >sick on this trip
yume wa kareno wo> over the dry fields
kake-meguru   >remain dreams
 :roll:
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 12, 2010, 04:00:52 AM
Since I first saw these all I could think was that they remind me of how it looks when I write things with the pencil tool in Microsoft Paint.

I don't believe they're genuine. Just my opinion.
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 15, 2010, 11:15:06 AM
There could be another explanation for why the handwriting is so different.  I think in the past when he signed autographs he was usually in a rush because there were so many to sign.  Perhaps he wrote these very slowly because he was more conscious about what he was writing.  It's happened to me before.  I had one diary where I wanted everything to be neat and legible and another one full of quickly written notes.  They look like two different people wrote them.  Also, it seems like he used marker and wrote on a very slippery surface.  This could be why it looks so clumsy.  If someone can verify that these were sold for charity then I will believe that Michael wrote them.

I got this from the Seeing Clues blog.  This poem made me reconsider the authenticity of these notes.  He uses an excerpt from "The Inevitable" by Sarah Knowles Bolton.  Here's the full poem:

"I like the man who faces what he must
With step triumphant and a heart of cheer;
Who fights the daily battle without fear;
Sees his hopes fail, yet keeps unfaltering trust
That God is God,—that somehow, true and just
His plans work out for mortals; not a tear
Is shed when fortune, which the world holds dear,
Falls from his grasp
—better, with love, a crust
Than living in dishonor; envies not,
Nor loses faith in man; but does his best,
Nor ever murmurs at his humbler lot;
But, with a smile and words of hope, gives zest
To every toiler. He alone is great
Who by a life heroic conquers fate
."

The first line that I bolded relates to the possibility of giving the money that he's earned since his "death" away to charity.
The second line I bolded reminds me of the "Killer Thriller" speech in London where he recounts the fate of so many artists who die addicted to drugs, penniless and without God.  It's seems like he's trying to say that he's escaped that fate.

I'm not saying that I know for sure that these were written by him, but I keep reminding myself of that story about Charlie Chaplin entering a look-a-like contest and losing because people thought he didn't look much like Charlie Chaplin.  We don't know for sure who wrote this.  Like I said earlier, if someone has proof that this was given to charity I will believe Michael wrote it.
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 15, 2010, 11:17:09 AM
Quote from: "Glinda"
Tabi ni yamite   >sick on this trip
yume wa kareno wo> over the dry fields
kake-meguru   >remain dreams
 :roll:

Japanese from the 1600's is very different linguistically from modern Japanese.  I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it.
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 15, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
:o  i have these photos.. and i never realised it said 2009... i mean i thought they were signed then so i didnt think more of it... but .... oohhhhh
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"This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." – Sir Winston Churchill



Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 15, 2010, 12:31:31 PM
these originate from a seller called  ".isettaflower" ...  
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thsi is what she sais
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The front of this black T-shirt has a lovely image of Michae's face and hands illuminated by the glow a burning candle. The graphics with his name printed in shiny embossed lettering.

The back includes the dates of the concert. This shirt is a "Glow in the Dark" product.

Michael gave me this shirt back in Sepetember 2001 when he invited me to go to these concerts with him in N.Y. City. He also gave me the pass and program which I also have for sale now, to benefit our children's charity.

When we got together in June of last year at his Los Angeles home to prepare all the things he donated for this sale, I asked him to please sign it and also requested a very special dedication for the fan who would buy it.

Michael paused for a while thinking of what to write on it, and finally decided on the lyrics of his fabulous "Do You Remember The Time". song.

I felt that was such a lovely, perfect choice, especially because of the soft image of the candle glow...

Mike started writing on it and realized that his marker was gliding better over the graphic image vs. the coarse cotton material.

When he finished writing the line "The Time", I asked him to be careful not to go over his face...and he stopped writing.

He turned around slowly, looked at me...and frowned his nose in dissaproval.

I opened my eyes very wide and stared back at him defiant, saying: "This one is mine! Be careful not to mess it up!"

He then opened his eyes even wider than mine and got his face closer to mine trying to scare me!

I started laughing so hard, I couldn't help myself!
He started laughing too and continued writing the next line on the shirt.

Then he realized that he was writing the line on the paragraph about talking on the phone for hours and quickly decided to change it to the beginning of the song instead... therefore...he messed the word "when"!!!

He simply started laughing harder than me, realizing that he HAD messed the shirt after all...regardless of his wide-eyed frowning face.

I thought that was precious and his mistake made this shirt extra-special because of his good intentions to please his fans...and get my shirt sold!

Mike also signed it and dated it 2009

if he signed them or if she signed them... well... i dont know
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 15, 2010, 12:36:15 PM
here are some pics from the site... plus one that is signed 1993.. hmmm

this person also sell MICHAEL JACKSON PERSONAL COLLECTION - SHOW & PRESENTATIONS COSTUME JEWELERY .. he/she claims they were ones mj's... how did so many items come to belong to this person... who is she/he?
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Re: Michael jackson autograph suddenly 2009
April 15, 2010, 12:39:59 PM
Where did you find them? And do you know from when these autographs are?

It'S a great find! Maybe he actually planned to "die" in 98' but failed in a way...and that's why he changed it into 2009
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