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A tragedy, my condolences to the families of the deceased and the Polish people.

I think this paragraph of story that is in the public Disco link that is very significant.




"In moving to weaken the zloty, Poland’s leadership was placing the interests of the people of Poland ahead of the interests of the European collective known as the European Union".
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What a tragedy ...  :(
All my sympathy goes to the people of Poland.

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I personally think this is not an accident.
The polish president was pro usa. And who wants made missiles launcher in Poland ? Usa. For who it's dangerous ? Russia.
Who killed the polish president pro usa and his chief of army ? Russiaaaaaaaaaaaa. Yeah yeah.

Our world is not black and white. There is so bad things.

I don't think it's an accident. C'mon, a presidential plane is driven by very competent pilot... I do not think that is of the fog which can be got through of this kind of pilot.
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The plane crash that killed Saturday Polish President Lech Kaczynski and the principal chiefs of the armed forces, is one of the most serious among those who broke up the staff of a government in the past 50 years.
These were the plane crashes that killed the heads of state and government.
March 29, 1959: the first president of the Central African Republic, Barthelemy Boganda, died in an explosion on board a flight to Noratlas 200 km south of Bangui, in conditions never clarified.
September 18, 1961: Dag Hammarskjoeld, the UN secretary general, died in a plane crash in the jungles of Zambia.
27 more 1979: the plane of Prime Minister Ahmed Ould Mauritanian Bousseif disappears into the sea off the coast of Dakar.
December 4, 1980: Portuguese Prime Minister Francisco Sa Carneiro and Defense Minister Adelino Amaro da Costa died in the crash of his plane in Camarate, near Lisbon. In December 2004 a parliamentary commission of inquiry established that it was an attack.
May 24, 1981: Ecuador's President Jaime Roldos Aguilera and his defense minister killed in plane crash in the south of his country.
August 1, 1981: Gen. Omar Torrijos, Panamanian strongman of the regime, is the victim of a plane crash in the west.
October 19, 1986: the first president of independent Mozambique, Samora Machel, died with 24 others when their Tupolev 134 an accident northeast of South Africa.
August 17, 1988: Pakistani President Zia ul Haq, several military commanders and U.S. Ambassador in Pakistan killed near Bahawalpur (middle eastern Pakistan), in a plane crash.
April 6, 1994: a Falcon 50 carrying the Rwandan president, Juvenal Habyarimana, his Burundi counterpart, Cyprien Ntaryamira, and several senior officials of both countries, is shot down by missiles fired from the ground as he was about to land and Kigali, the that triggered the genocide of the Tutsis in Rwanda.
February 12, 1998: Sudanese First Vice President Zubair Mohamed Saleh Al died in the south.
February 26, 2004: The President of Macedonia, Boris Trajkovski, died along with eight partners in southern Bosnia, as the plane prepared to land in Mostar.
August 1, 2005: The leader of southern Sudan and vice-president, John Garang dies in a helicopter accident returning from Uganda.
October 29, 2006: The Sultan of Sokoto Caliphate (Nigeria) Muhammadu Maccido, died in the crash of a Boeing 737 of ADC private company that crashes after takeoff from (Nigeria), Causing 96 dead.
10 April 2010: the Polish President Lech Kaczynski and the main heads of the Armed Forces to die your Tupolev 154 crash When Attempting to land near Smolensk (Russia). :!:  :!:  :!:
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what a disaster, imagine that occurring to america, with those sort people, but america, obama, and stuff like that, now that make news world wide.
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I saw this on the news today and my heart just cries for the nation of Poland and it's people. My prayers are with the Polish people their families and the families of those that perished. May God be with you all.
Much love.
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I'm from Poland ..can'stop crying ... Thank you all for your care...

RIP ....
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Quote from: "Cameron"
I personally think this is not an accident.
The polish president was pro usa. And who wants made missiles launcher in Poland ? Usa. For who it's dangerous ? Russia.
Who killed the polish president pro usa and his chief of army ? Russiaaaaaaaaaaaa. Yeah yeah.

Our world is not black and white. There is so bad things.

I don't think it's an accident. C'mon, a presidential plane is driven by very competent pilot... I do not think that is of the fog which can be got through of this kind of pilot.


this is not an  accident...

Quote from: "Disco"
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OMG!!! Could this be true???? What is happening to our world  :(

Poland has been dragging its feet in adopting the euro and joining the European Union, having pushed back its target date for doing so until 2015. Here in the U.S., we might say that Poland is not a “team player.” In the New World Order, bad things tend to happen to leaders who aren’t team players.


Full article......

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yea....  hmmmm...

I'm really sad about that is happening in our world... I wanna cry... I become so sensitive about things like this...
now every night I'm praying God for help to heal our world...
sometimes I feel like I'm living in horror movie..  looks like our planet is falling ..  
really sad...  I'm praying for Poland... and for the whole world
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it´s a tragedy, i´m speechless about that!
I can´t help thinking that there is some conspiracy behind that, I mean, it´s a large part of Poland´s "rulers"..
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Quote from: "tusia6631"
Quote from: "lotus_sutra"
...if the fog was so thick, how did witnesses 'see' what had happened???  
witnesses didn't see it..they just heard it! they could hear the roar of the engines and then the boom! .. :cry:
and now our country is left without command..
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From BBC article at beginning of this thread:
Polish TV worker Slawomir Wisniewski said he had seen the crash from his hotel near the airport.

"I saw through the fog, the aeroplane flying very low with the left wing pointing to the ground," he said.

"I heard something being broken and then that thudding sound. Two flashes of fire next to each other."

Again...how did he see this through the fog?
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Poland's leadership is to be admired as the only one of the EU countries that has not gone into an economic recession and is experiencing growth!  My prayers go out to the families of this crash and to all the people of Poland who've lost their great leaders. I pray the new leaders will have the wisdom, insight and love for the country as all those who lost their lives.  God bless Poland.
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its like 9/11
i'm 99% of this...
i'm sorry for this lose...
this is crap ... so many mean ppl
we tought that hitler was bad.
this is beyond...
i'm not gonna say anything else.
i dont wanna be seen like a "hater" or whatever,but is too obvious what happened...
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sorry guys but the only question coming to my head since yesterday is how on earth a president and his whole delegation would step in a Tupolev 154??????I bet Obama would never step in a tupolev 154 even if the world s sake was depending on it... I wouldnt even for a 10 million check...

Those planes arent safe, they are over 20 years old and keep on falling...look at all the tupolev s crash in the last 15 years...

Now the conspiracy i see here is that like always we are immediately blaming the pilot cause he cant argue anymore instead of blaming the plane. Why? Cause russia wont admit Tupolev arent safe...and this happening in their country with the polish government is a nightmare for their industry..they blame the pilot but maybe the poor guy didnt have anything working (altitude etc) in the cockpit of this 26 year old plane...I hope the polish delegation investigating the accident would be able to work free on this and come to its own conclusions


I feel sad for the victims not because they were president, head of parliament etc but because everytime a plane crash it s a tragedy. I feel really sorry for Jaroslaw who lost his twin and for the families of all the victims
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Thank You all for your supprot..hard times for us..  :cry:

Our president's body has just been transported to Warsaw.. people are gatheing on the streets to pay their honors for thier leader.. :cry: i'm constatntly crying.. it's a tragedy..a huge tragedy..
a also hope that polish delegation investigating the accident would be able to work free on this ..but i think it's impossible.. why? because Russian ppl wouldn't allow us to do so! theu will try to hide some evidences..
as to Tupolev.. well, ur right that it was an od plane.. but just w few week ago it has been renovated.. u know where? in Russia!! they renowated our plane!! so now u can clearly see that they can be behind this accident!
but on the other hand it also can be pilot's fault..some of u read that the plane was flying very low with the left wing pointing to the ground.. (witnesses say that..i said before that noone witnessed it..cuz noone saw the moment in which the plane crashed! they just heard the thudding sound! )..
i'm confused..i dunno what to think about that.. but as for now there are more important things to cope with..we have to choose new leader, arrange a funeral..
the time for accusations will come later..  :cry:
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beLIEve

I can't believe this,yesterday my husband and I were having morning coffee and we were talking about second world war, he told me about what happened 70 years ago in this Katyn forest where all the elite of Poland was murdered by Russians. I never knew that.
In the afternoon we heard the news, how symbolic is that, another elite? What a tragedy.

My deepest condolences to the people of Poland.
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