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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 11:05:10 AM
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I think some are reading way too much into this painting.

So you are suggestion we just ignore all the symbolism in this painting, the only painting he ever posed for, while Mike used symbolism for years and years to tell things he can't say outright?  

No, I don't think I'm reading too much into this panting, Mike and symbolism are inseparable.

I clearly pointed out the symbolism in this painting:

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Although not specifically stated in this article, it's widely assumed that the "book" represents the Bible, a very important book to Michael and his faith.

The 50-by-40 inch portrait shows Jackson in a Renaissance-era red velvet jacket and seated on a stool on a checkerboard floor at at his Neverland Ranch, beside a table holding a vase of flowers, while holding a book that is "significant in his life," the auction states.

Above him is a sweeping curtain. Behind Jackson's right shoulder is a statue of Peter Pan, the legendary boy that refused to grow up and a character the singer, who died last June, had always admired.The title of the book is not shown. The flowers represent "Jackson's love of nature," the auction says.

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In the painting's upper left hand corner, Jackson is seen being painted by the artist, Brett-Livingstone Strong.

Not everything has to fall in line with a conspiracy theory, and the agenda and propaganda around it.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 11:18:08 AM
Quote from: "kingofmystery"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "kingofmystery"
I think some are reading way too much into this painting.

So you are suggestion we just ignore all the symbolism in this painting, the only painting he ever posed for, while Mike used symbolism for years and years to tell things he can't say outright?  

No, I don't think I'm reading too much into this panting, Mike and symbolism are inseparable.

I clearly pointed out the symbolism in this painting:

Quote from: "kingofmystery"
Although not specifically stated in this article, it's widely assumed that the "book" represents the Bible, a very important book to Michael and his faith.

The 50-by-40 inch portrait shows Jackson in a Renaissance-era red velvet jacket and seated on a stool on a checkerboard floor at at his Neverland Ranch, beside a table holding a vase of flowers, while holding a book that is "significant in his life," the auction states.

Above him is a sweeping curtain. Behind Jackson's right shoulder is a statue of Peter Pan, the legendary boy that refused to grow up and a character the singer, who died last June, had always admired.The title of the book is not shown. The flowers represent "Jackson's love of nature," the auction says.

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In the painting's upper left hand corner, Jackson is seen being painted by the artist, Brett-Livingstone Strong.

Not everything has to fall in line with a conspiracy theory, and the agenda and propaganda around it.

PROPAGANDA....?  Are you sure that's the word you wanted to use....?

Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 11:22:01 AM
Based of that definition, yes, it seems like I used the appropriate word.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 11:33:56 AM
double.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 11:35:27 AM
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double.

Triple, there's another one.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 11:37:39 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
double.

Triple, there's another one.
yep.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 01:07:46 PM
this can be added to The Double Theory
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 01:25:57 PM
I did hear back from the person selling the painting.  I had asked if the painting was signed by the artist and Michael Jackson as indicated on Artbrokerage.com.  She said the painting was signed by the artist but not by MJ.
You would think that Artbrokerage.com would be a reliable source.  Could the painting be a duplicate done by the same artist or maybe a fake?

She is answering questions if anyone else wants to give it a try.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 01:38:42 PM
She just changed the description to the painting was signed.  I really get the feeling that the person who is handling this listing does not know what they are doing.   I have been a seller on ebay for three years.  You would think they would give it to someone to list that at least knows what they are doing.  This seems very shady to me.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 02:59:52 PM
Not all is only it. It may also be it.  ;)

Compare to the car sales of Arnie Klein on eBay and check for the differences

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What is left if you don't have a voice anymore? Advertising.
Where would you do it? Where most traffic comes in and the ad will be found?
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Zen

Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 11:14:10 PM
Excuse me for off-topic, but can anyone tell me or share thoughts
on WHY Tohme would be there looking at this painting?  What
is his significance or interest in this painting?  :?:  :?:  :!:

Also, yes there are triple Michael Jackson's in this painting and
it seem there facial expressions are different. I agree the book/painting
hold his "secrets".  I don't believe a key would be symbolic
to the Bible.  

Also, if you look, it says ONLY pre-approved buyers may
bid on this auction.  Maybe they want "someone" to have it.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 11:19:55 PM
Quote from: "Zen"
Excuse me for off-topic, but can anyone tell me or share thoughts
on WHY Tohme would be there looking at this painting?  What
is his significance or interest in this painting?  :?:  :?:  :!:

Also, yes there are triple Michael Jackson's in this painting and
it seem there facial expressions are different. I agree the book/painting
hold his "secrets".  I don't believe a key would be symbolic
to the Bible.  

Also, if you look, it says ONLY pre-approved buyers may
bid on this auction.  Maybe they want "someone" to have it.

It's ebay's policy for high priced items.  You must be preapproved financially before you can bid to make sure you can pay for the item.  That way people who are just bidding for the fun of it and have no intention of buying the item cannot bid. They want the sale of the item to be legitimate.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 09, 2010, 11:28:49 PM
Thank you - that makes sense for this price.
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 10, 2010, 03:11:11 PM
smells like h**x   :mrgreen:

Or should we find a reasonable explanation for two pictures (frame, curtain), two unveilings, two constumes??

[attachment=1:2bsp72j5]Book I.jpg[/attachment:2bsp72j5]
[attachment=0:2bsp72j5]Book II.jpg[/attachment:2bsp72j5]

This is just a theory, but we should think about this possibility:
This picture, brought up to auction now, should lead us to the hoax that was carried out in 1990 (or later). This picture was a prank, made up by Michael and his friend Brett Livingston-Stone (that's the name he was introduced with in Tarborelli's biography, 1992, the story about Michaels first meeting with LMP). For further "information" see Bratt Livingstone Strongs' homepage You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, if you don't know the right password, use this one: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. nice read!  ;)

The picture occured after its time in the broom cupboard right the day when Michael "passed away" and now after the second CM hearing on Ebay again.
The janitor sweaping the floor might be interpreted as a synonym for a trash can. ThomeThome is shown in front of a reprint.
The picture replaced Michael when he started hiding. It has it's own life now (a bit like Dorian Gray's picture). It was a sign of Michael to remind us that he is still with us, carrying on with the hoax after the upsetting last court hearing.




I could live with this version very well  :D
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Re: Painting of Michael on Ebay
April 10, 2010, 03:23:29 PM
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smells like h**x   :mrgreen:

Or should we find a reasonable explanation for two pictures (frame, curtain), two unveilings, two constumes??

[attachment=1:2hv875mx]Book I.jpg[/attachment:2hv875mx]
[attachment=0:2hv875mx]Book II.jpg[/attachment:2hv875mx]

This is just a theory, but we should think about this possibility:
This picture, brought up to auction now, should lead us to the hoax that was carried out in 1990 (or later). This picture was a prank, made up by Michael and his friend Brett Livingston-Stone (that's the name he was introduced with in Tarborelli's biography, 1992, the story about Michaels first meeting with LMP). For further "information" see Bratt Livingstone Strongs' homepage You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, if you don't know the right password, use this one: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. nice read!  ;)

The picture occured after its time in the broom cupboard right the day when Michael "passed away" and now after the second CM hearing on Ebay again.
The janitor sweaping the floor might be interpreted as a synonym for a trash can. ThomeThome is shown in front of a reprint.
The picture replaced Michael when he started hiding. It has it's own life now (a bit like Dorian Gray's picture). It was a sign of Michael to remind us that he is still with us, carrying on with the hoax after the upsetting last court hearing.




I could live with this version very well  :D
nice post....
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