And what about Obama ?

[Aintnosunshine]

Would you appreciate Angela Merkel (german chancellor)?

No jokes, but why do you mistrust everybody elected? After Oliver Cromwell failed in England in the end of the 17th century the US were the first working democracy in the world (we, the people) - and even inspired the french revolution ... (and from there on the rest of the world)

What went wrong? Would you prefer another system?

[somekindofsign]

I don´t think there has ever been a real democracy in the whole history.
I would prefer we realized that, and started demanding it. Once and for all.

DIMO = People
KRATIA = Government

There´s no such a thing in the world.

The only democracy maybe existed was in ancient Greece (it was centuries before USA...) and it doesn´t count to me as women had no rights then. But that´s the only thing near one that we have ever had.

[GirlSaturday]

MJs death is a priority for his fans so there is a tendency for fans to think that it is a priority for everyone else. President Obama has more important issues to be concerned with than the death of a celebrity.  

I am on record for stating that I don't believe that there is government involvement in the hoax. I would be extremely disappointed if those important issues of war,economy, unemployment, healthcare etc were set aside to focus on a celebrity and his hoax.  

There is a huge difference between being a friend, acquaintence or business colleague with someone.  Some people may be blurring those categories when trying to determine the people who were really MJs friends.

[MJLive2010]

Obama knows that Mj is not dead and the goverment is in it. Michael planed this Hoax I think after the Trails in 2004 . I understand him this is also a way of revenge . THE BAM WILL COME THE DAY NO ONE WILL EXPECT .  8-)

[Aintnosunshine]

I don´t think there has ever been a real democracy in the whole history.
I would prefer we realized that, and started demanding it. Once and for all.

DIMO = People
KRATIA = Government

There´s no such a thing in the world.

The only democracy maybe existed was in ancient Greece (it was centuries before USA...) and it doesn´t count to me as women had no rights then. But that´s the only thing near one that we have ever had.

What`s your ideal system?

[Cameron]

Nowadays there is no democraty.
Dictatorship says:" Shut up !  :x ".
Democraty says:"We go to see what we can do.  :roll: ".

Here is the only diference between democraty and dictatorship.

[somekindofsign]

Really true!

A joke:

THE COW a political animal.
In this land of sacred cows is prevailing the knowledge of government systems to which we are exposed if the crisis continues or worsens. The maxim is therefore not expose oneself and realize once and for all that, even if the cow is a political animal, is not free of abuses and atrocities.

The cow as a political animal:

FEUDALISM: You have two cows, the feudal lord takes some of the milk.

FASCISM: You have two cows, the government takes them both, hires you to take care of them and and sells you some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows, the government takes them and puts them in a farm with the cows of others, you have to take care of the cows.
The government gives the milk he needs.

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows, your neighbors help you take care of them, and everyone benefits from equal milk parts.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows, the government takes them and puts them in a farm with the cows of others.  He puts the care of former poultry farmer, you have to take care of the chickens the government removed from them. The government gives you as much milk as the current regulations say you should need.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows, they have to take care of them but the government takes all the milk.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows, the neighbors decide who is the milk for.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows, your neighbors pick someone to decide for yourself whose is the milk.

AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: The government promises to give you two cows if you vote for him. After the election the president is indicted for speculation with "future"  cattle titles.

CAPITALISM: You have two cows, sell one to buy a bull.

HONG KONG CAPITALISM: You have two cows, went and sold the three cows to a company registered in the stock using letters of credit opened for you for a brother who has a bank, then execute a "swap" of debt associated with a bond offering that lets you get all four cows back, with a tax deduction granted to maintain the five cows. The milk rights of six cows are transferred via a Panamanian company to a company of the virgin islands , the secret property of the majority shareholder of that in the bag, which the company sold the rights of the milk of seven cows. The balance of the company says you own eight cows with an option to buy another. In the meantime you have two cows slaughtered by the Chinese horoscope tells you that this will be a bad year.

TOTALITARIANISM: You have two cows, the government takes them both and then deny that they exist, milk is prohibited.

ANARCHISM: You have two cows, or you sell the milk at a fair price to their neighbors or their neighbors agree to kill him and take the cows.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows, the government takes them and shoots you.

SURREALISM: You have two giraffes, the government requires you to take flute lessons.

COLOMBIAN DEMOCRACY: (Perdón Colombia!   ) You had two cows, but one stuck his head into the neighbor's pasture, he hired a fourteen year old butcher that he cut its throat one night, but not before poisoning the dog. In the reporting of the facts, politician of the people told you that it happens to you for having cows, that it is better to have a job that he could get for you in the Hall. Then came the guerrilla commander, took the leather of the dead cow and told him that if he wanted to see him again and live in peace, wouldn´t be bad a contribution to the coffers of the poor equivalent to the price of one hundred and fifty cows. Soon came the paramilitary and told him that if given milk or anything else of the dead cow to the Communists they wouldn´t respondfor an aunt of yours in Monteria, and whose habits are described in complete detail with photos. Meanwhile, you took your second cow, disguised it as a giraffe and not dare to milk it for fear that his neighbor and other good citizens become aware that the yellow stains and the neck are false.

THE END.

No offense anyone, please, just a joke  

[Sarahli]

Regarding Michael's friends I just know that he said on interviews that he had very little good friends and that he could count them on the fingers of one hand ( =5 maximum )...Liz taylor is sure one of them. So taking this into account we can reduce the scope of investigation on that point to a smaller scale.  

Barack Obama made a statement after Michael's "passing" because he was kinda obliged to. Michael is the greatest entertainer of all time, he is an American citizen, this is the last he could do, the contrary would have been suspicious. I personnally found what he said and the way he said it, flat. No real emotion. Maybe it's because he's the President...
Now I really don't think the Gov. is in on it. Why would they after all, they never were on MJ's side before and they don't care about us...I don't think that they would cover this up. Nevertheless and maybe, they're few "powerful" people in L.A. in the hoax. But the Gov. itself...

I also remember to people who seem to think that Obama can make a change that innocent people are killed everyday in the name of security and freedom and that Obama is involved due to his position. You cannot free yourself from your responsabilities in front of humanity with the excuse of being a puppet with no means of action. If you are a true person and really believe in your ideals you do anything to fulfill them. So if Obama is a real good person he must stop the war first and leave the oil wells alone.

[this1crazygirl]

that is so selfish of people to risk the eccosystem for moneytary gain. it even seem like since that shot at the moon the weather went wild

[Cameron]

Regarding Michael's friends I just know that he said on interviews that he had very little good friends and that he could count them on the fingers of one hand ( =5 maximum )...Liz taylor is sure one of them. So taking this into account we can reduce the scope of investigation on that point to a smaller scale.  

Barack Obama made a statement after Michael's "passing" because he was kinda obliged to. Michael is the greatest entertainer of all time, he is an American citizen, this is the last he could do, the contrary would have been suspicious. I personnally found what he said and the way he said it, flat. No real emotion. Maybe it's because he's the President...
Now I really don't think the Gov. is in on it. Why would they after all, they never were on MJ's side before and they don't care about us...I don't think that they would cover this up. Nevertheless and maybe, they're few "powerful" people in L.A. in the hoax. But the Gov. itself...

I also remember to people who seem to think that Obama can make a change that innocent people are killed everyday in the name of security and freedom and that Obama is involved due to his position. You cannot free yourself from your responsabilities in front of humanity with the excuse of being a puppet with no means of action. If you are a true person and really believe in your ideals you do anything to fulfill them. So if Obama is a real good person he must stop the war first and leave the oil wells alone.

I agree with you. But I doubt that Obama is a good person. You know, I think that to be US President, you must be the same bad person that all the rich and powerful people. (I don't criticize rich people, but the rich people who don't care about us, use us, like the chiefs... I can't really explain what I want to see because english is not my native language).

Really true!

A joke:

THE COW a political animal.
In this land of sacred cows is prevailing the knowledge of government systems to which we are exposed if the crisis continues or worsens. The maxim is therefore not expose oneself and realize once and for all that, even if the cow is a political animal, is not free of abuses and atrocities.

The cow as a political animal:

FEUDALISM: You have two cows, the feudal lord takes some of the milk.

FASCISM: You have two cows, the government takes them both, hires you to take care of them and and sells you some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows, the government takes them and puts them in a farm with the cows of others, you have to take care of the cows.
The government gives the milk he needs.

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows, your neighbors help you take care of them, and everyone benefits from equal milk parts.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows, the government takes them and puts them in a farm with the cows of others.  He puts the care of former poultry farmer, you have to take care of the chickens the government removed from them. The government gives you as much milk as the current regulations say you should need.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows, they have to take care of them but the government takes all the milk.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows, the neighbors decide who is the milk for.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows, your neighbors pick someone to decide for yourself whose is the milk.

AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: The government promises to give you two cows if you vote for him. After the election the president is indicted for speculation with "future"  cattle titles.

CAPITALISM: You have two cows, sell one to buy a bull.

HONG KONG CAPITALISM: You have two cows, went and sold the three cows to a company registered in the stock using letters of credit opened for you for a brother who has a bank, then execute a "swap" of debt associated with a bond offering that lets you get all four cows back, with a tax deduction granted to maintain the five cows. The milk rights of six cows are transferred via a Panamanian company to a company of the virgin islands , the secret property of the majority shareholder of that in the bag, which the company sold the rights of the milk of seven cows. The balance of the company says you own eight cows with an option to buy another. In the meantime you have two cows slaughtered by the Chinese horoscope tells you that this will be a bad year.

TOTALITARIANISM: You have two cows, the government takes them both and then deny that they exist, milk is prohibited.

ANARCHISM: You have two cows, or you sell the milk at a fair price to their neighbors or their neighbors agree to kill him and take the cows.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows, the government takes them and shoots you.

SURREALISM: You have two giraffes, the government requires you to take flute lessons.

COLOMBIAN DEMOCRACY: (Perdón Colombia!   ) You had two cows, but one stuck his head into the neighbor's pasture, he hired a fourteen year old butcher that he cut its throat one night, but not before poisoning the dog. In the reporting of the facts, politician of the people told you that it happens to you for having cows, that it is better to have a job that he could get for you in the Hall. Then came the guerrilla commander, took the leather of the dead cow and told him that if he wanted to see him again and live in peace, wouldn´t be bad a contribution to the coffers of the poor equivalent to the price of one hundred and fifty cows. Soon came the paramilitary and told him that if given milk or anything else of the dead cow to the Communists they wouldn´t respondfor an aunt of yours in Monteria, and whose habits are described in complete detail with photos. Meanwhile, you took your second cow, disguised it as a giraffe and not dare to milk it for fear that his neighbor and other good citizens become aware that the yellow stains and the neck are false.

THE END.

No offense anyone, please, just a joke  

  A joke, but this joke contains some true things  

[Maria]

Can of time after the " death" of Michael Jackson, the president Obama made a tribute. If it is really a hoax, how come that the president, supposed to be correctly informed by his circle of acquaintances, made the tribute? If it would have been false, the services of the president of The United States would have got the joke, hoax. Or then your country is governed by naive painters !  :D

And I personally don't think that MJ is a friend of Obama  :roll:

For the same reason Elvis was at Obama's Inauguration standing beside the Mayor of Los Angeles in the VIP Section.

I believe MJ's life was in danger, and this is why all Los Angeles County, California State and Federal Organizations are cooperating in this.  I truly do not think MJ disappeared in order to teach the world a lesson or to prove a point about how easy it is to falsely accuse an innocent individual.  The only thing which makes sense to me is that his life and the life's of his children were somehow in danger and this is what he had to do.

And if I recall correctly, President Obama was not too quick to even comment on MJ's "death", and when he did it was a cold display of words and not befitting the "passing" of an iconic figure of our time.  I found his response very questionable at the time and that was even before I became aware of the possibility that MJ's "death" may not have been real.

WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM.  This is something the government is totally involved in.  Maybe MJ found the perfect opportunity with Obama now being in office to go through with this because Reverend Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton {extremely close friends of the Jacksons} are very involved with Obama on both a political and personal basis.

I can easily see Obama knowing the truth, if in fact MJ had to seek the protection of the Government.

[ROFL]

Well said, this1crazygirl! I agree!

In fact nobody can "run" such a big federal system (50 states!) without considerations, consent, respect of constitutional guaranteed autonomy of each and every state ... The US might appear as a super power nation when it comes to foreign policy or national defense  - but on the interior side the most legal and political power is with the states itself.

Don`t blame him, don`t underestimate his personal abilities and be kind of proud to have such a charismatic president! His election alone already made a change and to the rest of the world this/he is more than a symbol.  Give him some time, be fair, appreciate his true values, face the facts and give some mercy to such an ambitious, conscious, highly intelligent and eloquent man.

There`s a german saying: "Viel Feind, viel Ehr." which means "Many enemies, much reputation / honor / honesty."

Don`t get mislead by haters, lies and allegations. Think about it ....

And what would be the alternative? The Bushs again?

Just my personal opinion - but well-considered, honest and serious.

Well I'm not a hater , actually I was all excited during the US elections
Honestly I don't think any  of the presidents that are elected are "good" persons , they all have their own interest..
Politicians are sadly only puppets of higher powerfull people Like the Rockefeller, the Rotchilds ..
You exactly said he is a symbol  , that's exactly what he is
After the disaster of Bush , they could only put someone better than Bush , Obama was perfect for that , a half black mixed young person "full oh hope and promises for a better world".. So now everybody thinks the US's politic is better only cos they "like Obama" .. Sorry but he hasn't done anyting revelant since the beginning except maybe the health care insurance system reform.What about Irak War , Guentanamo ? :?
Wacth "the Obama deception" ..