3 Versions of CORONER VAN==????

[TinkerbellStardust]

I either never believed this video was made by RTL. And I have no idea how the RTL came up with the idea claiming they made the video.That's too rediculous.. Their ''making of'' doesn't even match.  :lol:
But I never did hear the breathing before! There is another video filmed from the sky (it has been discussed here already in another thread) where someone appears to be running in to the garage as in hiding. He could be the one filming and hence the breathing.

[liril]

I DO BELIEVE THAT THE VIDEO WAS REAL and it was more a damage control action.

when RTL claimed the video was fake i got skeptical. I was not sure of the repute of the channel because I don't belong to Germany. But then soon I came across an interview of mike's which was also was on RTL that convinced me that the Channel is something.
Today I noticed  a thing that I never noticed before about the video is that the videomaker did not wait for long, i mean till the driver or some other person comes out of the van. Of course there  is possibility that he was scared and rushed back to a safe place but that would have made it even more believable.
Besides guys do you see two people standing outside already while the van arrive. I saw one of them escorting mike but where did (if he really is present) the second one go.

[Aintnosunshine]

IMO the RTL video served a double purpose:

1. it brought the idea of a "hoax" / "fake" to a broader public since main stream media news picked it up
(the children knew already because they saw "the ghost of Neverland" on CNN)

2. at the same time it distracted many people from hoax/fake again because for weeks or longer it covered the front entries of google and other search engines.

First result: if people thought of MJ death hoax they just got the RTL fake video (a hoax within a hoax).

Second result: only true real believers found their way through to the forums, the youtube`s and other accounts (for the rest of "random public" our activities were kind of hidden).

Third result: this way a close and rather reliable community of hoax believers could have been established without interference from haters or ridiculing non-believer-fans.

Doesn`t that make sense?

[raphaelleanique]

@aintnosunshine; that definately does make sense; good summary of yours!!

[Sternschen87]

wow....
The sirenes does not match!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is a great find....
Look at this one:

[youtube:pfhblaie]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfqzmgl2EYw[/youtube:pfhblaie]

Oh my god............
IT IS NO FAKE!!!!!!!!

[Tina K.]

Yippie !!!

[raphaelleanique]

So, the only possibility would be that they added  US sirens to their made-in-Germany- video. WHICH I DOUBT

[L.O.V.Eispower]

i am almost 100% sure that the video is real and RTL just tried 2 cover up quickly..one of the first vids i watched on youtube which introduced me to the hoax were JonellStarTV's (I LOVE HER VIDS they convinced me of the hoax ) and in one vid she shows how the vid is real and the one they made to 'show' us how they did it does not tie in with the original...i thinkk its this one 8-)

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u guys should check out all her hoax vids..they are awesommee

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

I too believe the van vid to be real. I was shocked when RTL made the "making of" vid because what would be the point in making a fake vid to make everyone THINK MJ was alive, then show the making of vid? It made absolutley no anse at all.

It was damage control and there is no doubt about it. The vid of the guy running that was filmed from the sky, I think is the guy who shot the van vid too.
No one ever thought that someone would film something they werent suppose to see, so when the van vid came out, which wasnt part of the plan, then we see the making of vid within a few days.....they dont even match...

AND to top it all off...we had a member on the old MJKIT who went to Los Angeles...I think it was for the burial() and she went to the coroners office parking lot and TOOK A PICTURE and posted it, of the VAN WITH THE LICENSE number that was in the original van video....so that proved to me everything.

The van vid is real.

[somekindofsign]

RTL said they did it because they wanted to prove how easy is to fake things, a short of social experiment.
But this has no sense, they are not sociologists, media don´t usually show how easy is to made up stories, they have to invest money on it (importing USA sirens  :lol: ), they had no profit, as the audience was on YT, it was a very delicate moment (would be more justificable now, not then)... not a lot of sense.

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

Also, I think if Im not mistaken, someone mentioned at the time that RTL vid came out that it was raining in the video? I dont know what they meant by that.

[somekindofsign]

Me neither.
Can we recover that?
Was it in the RTL making of video?

[Kirsche]

I also think that the van video is real...Because that would match with one of the TMZ articles about MJ being alive at UCLA

[MJJ1982]

I totally agree.  The video is real.  The whole RTL story was to cover up a huge problem when the real one surfaced.

I'm saying that since the german RTL claimed that they made the video, because the siren that you hear is an american one, and not a german one...

[karen-ishealive]

I'm sorry but I think that video was real.  I think when it got leaked they gave a lame excuse talking about it was an experiment to see how fast news and gossip can travel over the internet.  Well duh we already know that it don't take a rocket scientist to know this.  Making a fake video right after MJ died would be in poor taste as well so I don't buy that excuse.  Please.....

Lol my exact thoughts... i've always believed this video was real and RTL was BS.