Special Cream?

[QuirkyDiana]

LOL. MJ had vitiligo. He used the cream to make the skin tone even. But if people found out he used the cream, imagine how that could be misinterpreted.

[tabloidburn]

LOL. MJ had vitiligo. He used the cream to make the skin tone even. But if people found out he used the cream, imagine how that could be misinterpreted.

but that was exactly my point...it was all over the tabloids already and time and time over again, so bleaching cream wouldn't be anything 'the world shouldn't find out about'. and vitiligo would be the explanation for it, too. so what would be the big deal here? nothing...

[tabloidburn]

Any job offers on the table yet?
This is THE once-in-a-lifetime chance for a global, dedicated, interactive, well-informed and successful team!
Who deserves it?
One man only.  

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: you know, it just so happens that i'm unemployed at the time...who can i send my application to? think i should try an initiative application with the estate?  :mrgreen: i can devote my whole self to this, my kids are big, so i got all the time in the world...and i'm office skilled, too.  :mrgreen:

We should give it a try and open a thread IMO.
Or call up TMZ and get on their toes until they agree.  
I would NOT leave this activity out of any CV - some folks breed doves, some help kids in church, we help each other - no difference.
This is showing personal activity, personal going for something which is a strong character quality. Folks that do something are required. Really.

Thus:
any interested boss, employer, personnel agency, hiring responsible, when reading this, please go and give the jobless in here a good chance.
They definitively deserve it!

thankx for campaigning!!! anyone with a job offer wants my cv, pm me!!!  :mrgreen:

[Sarahli]

this thing produces more riddles every day, like you gotta think around the corner ALL the time... :roll:

LOL
I think we turn out to be the best "think around the corner" staff the planet ever has seen.
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Pros:
- We have acquired not only the holistic approach
- We get specific about details
- We stay tuned even when it's getting too much
- We know how to organize our days (around the hoax) and still find some sleep
- We find corners to think around every day
- We did not lose sight of our goal
- We won't give up, we are steelheaded
- We fight once in a while but know how to make peace again
- We appreciate our different perspectives and findings
- We laugh often
- We enjoy the ride
- We are one of a kind


Cons:
- We have very little time since every spare minute is dedicated to the hoax
- We got square eyes
- We see green men

In short:
- We are the ones my mum always warned me about ...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Any job offers on the table yet?
This is THE once-in-a-lifetime chance for a global, dedicated, interactive, well-informed and successful team!
Who deserves it?
One man only.  

Count me in I'm desperately looking for a job  :cry:  Working for Michael would be the greatest opportunity even as a simple secretary    as long as I know that I do something useful with the Best Boss of the planet.

[Sarahli]

Very good job Grace. We indeed have to look deeper into details to find more information. Great finds.

I am curious about the plastic bag and the canvas bags. This has intrigued me when I read TMZ news:
"According to Alvarez, Dr. Murray took several vials and told Alvarez to put them in a plastic bag, then told Alvarez to put the plastic bag in a canvas bag." Sure there is something here but I can't figure out.

Note that the white milky substance is directly put in another canvas bag : "Alvarez also says Dr. Murray told him to remove the IV that contained a white milky substance (Propofol has this quality) in another canvas bag."
Looks like there is some hidden message here.  :?

I know we're supposed to talk about the "cream" here but TMZ reported that :

Drug Stash Found at Michael Jackson's
Posted Mar 26th 2010 7:10PM by TMZ Staff

A newly-released search warrant details what cops found at Michael Jackson's home in the wake of his death -- and the list is long. It includes:

- 3 - 10 mg/ml 1% lydocaine vials (2 empty, 1 3/4 full)
- 1 empty bottle propofol 200 mg
- 1 pulse monometer
- 1 empty vial lorazepam 4 mg
- 2 empty vials midazolam 10mg
- 1 empty vial propofol 1g/100ml
- 1 black nylon bag
- 1 dark blue costco bag
- 1 light blue canvas bag
- 1 pill bottle with 13 tablets containing 25 mg ephedrine, 200 mg caffeine, 80 mg aspirin
- 4 vials propofol 200mg/20ml
- 2 vials 5 mg flumazenil
- 1 vial lorazepam
- 1 vial lidocane
- 200mg vials of propofol (1 full, 1 1/4 full)
- 1 empty bag I.V. drip of sodium chloride with syringe
- 1 ziplock baggy containing 18 tubes of Benoquin

Note that one of the items seized was a canvas bag. Bodyguard Alberto Alvarez told cops Dr. Murray told him to put vials of propofol in a plastic bag and put that bag in a canvas bag.

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There is definitely something with bags...

[Grace]

Very good job Grace. We indeed have to look deeper into details to find more information. Great finds.

I am curious about the plastic bag and the canvas bags. This has intrigued me when I read TMZ news:
"According to Alvarez, Dr. Murray took several vials and told Alvarez to put them in a plastic bag, then told Alvarez to put the plastic bag in a canvas bag." Sure there is something here but I can't figure out.

Note that the white milky substance is directly put in another canvas bag : "Alvarez also says Dr. Murray told him to remove the IV that contained a white milky substance (Propofol has this quality) in another canvas bag."
Looks like there is some hidden message here.  :?

I know we're supposed to talk about the "cream" here but TMZ reported that :

Drug Stash Found at Michael Jackson's
Posted Mar 26th 2010 7:10PM by TMZ Staff

A newly-released search warrant details what cops found at Michael Jackson's home in the wake of his death -- and the list is long. It includes:

- 3 - 10 mg/ml 1% lydocaine vials (2 empty, 1 3/4 full)
- 1 empty bottle propofol 200 mg
- 1 pulse monometer
- 1 empty vial lorazepam 4 mg
- 2 empty vials midazolam 10mg
- 1 empty vial propofol 1g/100ml
- 1 black nylon bag
- 1 dark blue costco bag
- 1 light blue canvas bag
- 1 pill bottle with 13 tablets containing 25 mg ephedrine, 200 mg caffeine, 80 mg aspirin
- 4 vials propofol 200mg/20ml
- 2 vials 5 mg flumazenil
- 1 vial lorazepam
- 1 vial lidocane
- 200mg vials of propofol (1 full, 1 1/4 full)
- 1 empty bag I.V. drip of sodium chloride with syringe
- 1 ziplock baggy containing 18 tubes of Benoquin

Note that one of the items seized was a canvas bag. Bodyguard Alberto Alvarez told cops Dr. Murray told him to put vials of propofol in a plastic bag and put that bag in a canvas bag.

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There is definitely something with bags...

It would make my head spin if there was NOT something to the bags.
I wrote some on the bags on page 1 of this thread.
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A brainstorming could be helpful - what do you associate with "bags"?

bag (all meanings, e.g. also hunting kill, the logic puzzle)
bagg
bagger
bag boy
baggio
sack / looting
beg
beggar
plastic
canvas / hamp

remember also the digger on stage and in the movie

some sources:
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(In addition: we were discussing the bags earlier when looking at the chopper video when it was blue bag vs. white bag and the white bag turned out to be white sheets.)

[RK]

Seems to me if they list all those drugs  found at the scene then  a tube of cream isn't gonna alter the general publics view of MJ . I am inclined to think that there was no cream to be removed, but we know that security tapes are missing. Maybe that is what Murray removed.

[kemre]

Seems to me if they list all those drugs  found at the scene then  a tube of cream isn't gonna alter the general publics view of MJ . I am inclined to think that there was no cream to be removed, but we know that security tapes are missing. Maybe that is what Murray removed.

Exactly what I was thinking. Just couldn't figure out how to communicate the thought.

[Believe 777]

Seems to me if they list all those drugs  found at the scene then  a tube of cream isn't gonna alter the general publics view of MJ . I am inclined to think that there was no cream to be removed, but we know that security tapes are missing. Maybe that is what Murray removed.

Exactly what I was thinking. Just couldn't figure out how to communicate the thought.

My thoughts too  

Michael wouldn't have wanted anyone to see these tapes in the beginning but now the trial is very close, these stories of 'special cream' and bags etc comes out. Maybe they will suddenly appear next week. Maybe Nicole Alverez knows about them and will spill the beans. There must be a reason for all these recent articles coming out. Maybe this is the connection and what perfect timing.

[GirlSaturday]

There might be a simpler explaination for why Conrad Murray went back for the cream. Here's  a conversation that may have taken place at UCLA Medical Center on the afternoon of June 25, 2009.

MJ: <sifting through bag> "Doc, where's the cream?"
CM: "It should be there. I packed everything on the list".
MJ: "Well it's missing. You may have forgotten it."
CM: <grabs bag and frantically searches inside> "It must be here. I saw it and tossed it inside the bag."
MJ: "It's not here so you know what you have to do, right?"
CM: "You must be kidding. I cannot go back there. The place is now swarming with cops and media."
MJ: "No jokes...you have to go back and get it."
CM: "C'mon Mr J., how am I going to explain why I have to go back into that house without causing suspicion!?"
MJ: "That's your problem and not mine. For what I'm paying you, figure it out and bring me the cream... asap!".

 :lol:

[somekindofsign]

CREAM = ELITE ?
PROPOFOL = FOOL PROP ? (Meaning False Atrezzo)

[Grace]

CREAM = ELITE ?
PROPOFOL = FOOL PROP ? (Meaning False Atrezzo)

Prop of fool - something fools lean on.

Diprivan is not better - to deprive someone - to rob someone.

[MJmakesmespeechless]

We all know Michael used something to even out his skin tone because of the Vitiligo - he said it himself for crying out loud!!! Even Dr. Arnie Klein said it (and i dont believe much of what he says) but that I know is true. What is the big deal???

[tabloidburn]

There might be a simpler explaination for why Conrad Murray went back for the cream. Here's  a conversation that may have taken place at UCLA Medical Center on the afternoon of June 25, 2009.

MJ: <sifting through bag> "Doc, where's the cream?"
CM: "It should be there. I packed everything on the list".
MJ: "Well it's missing. You may have forgotten it."
CM: <grabs bag and frantically searches inside> "It must be here. I saw it and tossed it inside the bag."
MJ: "It's not here so you know what you have to do, right?"
CM: "You must be kidding. I cannot go back there. The place is now swarming with cops and media."
MJ: "No jokes...you have to go back and get it."
CM: "C'mon Mr J., how am I going to explain why I have to go back into that house without causing suspicion!?"
MJ: "That's your problem and not mine. For what I'm paying you, figure it out and bring me the cream... asap!".

 :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: great!!! i can actually see that scene right before my eyes!  :mrgreen:

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

There might be a simpler explaination for why Conrad Murray went back for the cream. Here's  a conversation that may have taken place at UCLA Medical Center on the afternoon of June 25, 2009.

MJ: <sifting through bag> "Doc, where's the cream?"
CM: "It should be there. I packed everything on the list".
MJ: "Well it's missing. You may have forgotten it."
CM: <grabs bag and frantically searches inside> "It must be here. I saw it and tossed it inside the bag."
MJ: "It's not here so you know what you have to do, right?"
CM: "You must be kidding. I cannot go back there. The place is now swarming with cops and media."
MJ: "No jokes...you have to go back and get it."
CM: "C'mon Mr J., how am I going to explain why I have to go back into that house without causing suspicion!?"
MJ: "That's your problem and not mine. For what I'm paying you, figure it out and bring me the cream... asap!".

 :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: great!!! i can actually see that scene right before my eyes!  :mrgreen:

I cant toally see MJ saying this to Murray.