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Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 19, 2010, 10:00:16 PM
While watching This is it tonight (had a nice evening with Mo) I (we) noticed the following:

For the sake of continuity of the live performance of Thriller there has to be a double in Tii, I'll explain why:

-No way someone can actualy leave the stage, change costume and get in a spider under 4 seconds.
It 's just the old disapear and reapear magic trick, wich is pulled of by using ......... doubles.

-In the part after he crawls out of the spider, he barely sings........ (so who is the puppetmaster now)

After the song Kenny says : " Make sure there is somebody waiting for Michael there  with a flashlight and everything"

Well, you need a flashlight to get on stage, not to get off.(and I have personale experience).....
So what Kenny is saying, there has to be someone ready to help the "real" Michael Jackson on stage, probably in a new costume....... (that's what rehearsals are for)

Yes I know , on the DVD they sliced 2 rehearsals together, but my point is:

They never could pull of these costume changes, without the use of a double


Point clear??? .........  End of discusion.

NOWAY "IT WAS ALL MICHAEL" IN THIS IS IT
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 19, 2010, 10:11:02 PM
Thanks for posting this keyboardwizz, and thanks for a lovely evening!
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 19, 2010, 10:19:09 PM
I agree 100%.  It's all part of the illusion.  Those photos on another topic, show a stunt double in Smooth Criminal, and the other double is there to help the dancers rehearse when MJ wasn't able to be there.  KO said that himself.  But why show that on DVD????  Is it to arouse suspicion?????    With love  L.O.V.E  xox :D  :D  :D  ;)  ;)  ;)
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 19, 2010, 10:23:38 PM
I don't think it was a big secret really.  His own dad mentioned them....
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 19, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
wasnt michael to open thriller coming out of the spider???
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 19, 2010, 11:45:35 PM
great post keyboard wizz  :mrgreen:
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 19, 2010, 11:52:43 PM
I've always thought that this was definitely Michael (the attached photo) because not only does he look very similar to michael, he's really the only one without glasses, and in the main menu, they show stills from this is it, and they only show "this" michael.

But can someone explain to me why he used doubles?  :?
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 20, 2010, 12:01:05 AM
Yeah, the spider was supposed to be for the opening of Thriller (despite the fact the concerts were never going to take place.....so far), recall the video opening the song in This Is It. It ends with the big black widow spider emerging and approaching the camera (audience). I also realize that that wasn't how they did it in the video, but I don't have time to analyze that right now. I dunno, just thought i'd point that out.
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 20, 2010, 01:00:13 AM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
I've always thought that this was definitely Michael (the attached photo) because not only does he look very similar to michael, he's really the only one without glasses, and in the main menu, they show stills from this is it, and they only show "this" michael.

But can someone explain to me why he used doubles?  :?
I'm thinking, either he was Busy planning the Hoax or he wanted to do more behind the camera work. he did state in his 2005 Geraldo interview ''i wanna do a film. something big, something large'' Idk about you guys but i think this is a double: he looks way different then the attached photo MJFan7 has  :geek:
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 20, 2010, 04:56:48 AM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
I've always thought that this was definitely Michael (the attached photo) because not only does he look very similar to michael, he's really the only one without glasses, and in the main menu, they show stills from this is it, and they only show "this" michael.

But can someone explain to me why he used doubles?  :?
I'm thinking, either he was Busy planning the Hoax or he wanted to do more behind the camera work. he did state in his 2005 Geraldo interview ''i wanna do a film. something big, something large'' Idk about you guys but i think this is a double: he looks way different then the attached photo MJFan7 has  :geek:

I think it's def real Mike. Just a few of them in TII were doubles I think.
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 20, 2010, 05:07:15 AM
I was thinking that it was him the entire movie but he did look different on some parts of the movie.  So it could be possible.  I know he used E Casanova in the Who is it? video.  I notice when he is talking to Kenny O. and he says that's a cool move he had a deep cleft in his chin and his lips look really pink.  Then on other parts the cleft didn't look as deep in his chin.  I know one of the dancers said that he would show up for rehearsal sporadically.  So apparently he missed some rehearsals.  I also read that Kenny made sure to film him when ever he showed up so who knows?  I know he was dancing very different in those orange leggings.  I wonder who picked his outfits for that movie because some of them were kinda odd.  He looked good on the part when he is talking to Michael Beardon at the keyboard and he's wearing all black.  He had his hair down and it's all curly.
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 20, 2010, 05:24:24 AM
Quote from: "SiMTii"
Yeah, the spider was supposed to be for the opening of Thriller (despite the fact the concerts were never going to take place.....so far), recall the video opening the song in This Is It. It ends with the big black widow spider emerging and approaching the camera (audience). I also realize that that wasn't how they did it in the video, but I don't have time to analyze that right now. I dunno, just thought i'd point that out.

Exactly.

Plus the fact that that scene started on a different day, so you can't say at all that it fitted in with the order of the performance.

I.e. it is NOT definitive proof, at all.
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 20, 2010, 07:08:46 AM
Of course it's not proof, nothing is. The man is not an idiot.

If there's proof then there will be no illusion anymore ;)
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 20, 2010, 07:11:29 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Of course it's not proof, nothing is. The man is not an idiot.

If there's proof then there will be no illusion anymore ;)
Agreed. ;)
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Re: Defenitive proof Michael uses doubles
March 20, 2010, 07:12:30 AM
cmon we know there are double
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