Marks on MJ's hands

[mykidsmum]

@mykidsmum..  its awesome how much work and effort you have put into this.  xxx

Thankyou.. i appreciate it.   For me, the arthritis was the final persuasion for me.   Now you have concretely confirmed in my head that the real MJ was at O2...  not that i ever really felt it wasnt, but MJs behaviour was just off that day so i understand why people thought it wasnt the real him. Bless him.  X

Thankyou again.  Awesome effort. x

aww...thanks.... I got a couple more for you...  carlos riley, an impersonator, compared with MJ and MJ compared with MJ... To make them both the same, I used the nose as the focal line up point.  You can see Carlos doesn't line up too good.  I'm not saying Carlos was the one everyone thinks was there, I'm just using a dang good look alike.

[kemre]

MYKIDSMUM

Thank you so very much for the comparison pictures. You did a great job. That must have took a lot of work. How did you do it if you wouldn't mind sharing? ? The way you cut the pieces and put them together? Prettttyyyy cool.

I was convinced that the 02 man was NOT Michael. He looked nothing like the Michael I had seen before.

But .. those hands look like a match to me! My mom has Lupus and her hands resemble MJ's a bit. I still don't think he looks like MJ but I'm no longer convinced that it wasn't him. I would think it would be impossible to mimmick the bumps on his fingers? I mean.. come on. They'd have to make a whole fake hand.

And the pictures that you cut and put together.. looks like a match to me.

Good work

I know I appreciate it!

[mykidsmum]

MYKIDSMUM

Thank you so very much for the comparison pictures. You did a great job. That must have took a lot of work. How did you do it if you wouldn't mind sharing? ? The way you cut the pieces and put them together? Prettttyyyy cool.

I was convinced that the 02 man was NOT Michael. He looked nothing like the Michael I had seen before.

But .. those hands look like a match to me! My mom has Lupus and her hands resemble MJ's a bit. I still don't think he looks like MJ but I'm no longer convinced that it wasn't him. I would think it would be impossible to mimmick the bumps on his fingers? I mean.. come on. They'd have to make a whole fake hand.

And the pictures that you cut and put together.. looks like a match to me.

Good work

I know I appreciate it!

Thank you so much!  I do appreciate that!  Is your avatar picture you?  If it is, you are striking!  As for the pictures, I use mjjpictures.com.  I find a pic of MJ from the O2 set and using my memory (I usually know where I have seen a picture to use as comparison, one that has him at the same angle...it is just a matter of finding it again)  I don't have photo shop, I use paint and photobucket.  If the picture isn't rotated exactly, I upload the photo I want to turn, to photobucket and make a copy of it and then turn it (like if his body is not quite in the same angle) then save it and then save it to my pictures on my computer...from there I open paint and paste the photo in, re-size and crop it.  Then I open another paint, take the second comparison picture, crop and re-size it. and then cut it and go back to the first one and paste it in beside the first one.  This is where I take out my handy measuring device...a ruler!  I have to re-size the picture I just pasted until it is the same size as the one I want to compare...after a few measurements and adjustments I save a copy to use as the comparison to the one I chop up.  Then I click on the upper left button on paint and that allows me to trace a line on the picture I want using my mouse.  Then I can click on it and move it over to the other picture.  That's it!  When I'm done, I paste the original in too for comparison...LOL!  So, thank you so so much for your appreciation:)

[mykidsmum]

@mykidsmum..  its awesome how much work and effort you have put into this.  xxx

Thankyou.. i appreciate it.   For me, the arthritis was the final persuasion for me.   Now you have concretely confirmed in my head that the real MJ was at O2...  not that i ever really felt it wasnt, but MJs behaviour was just off that day so i understand why people thought it wasnt the real him. Bless him.  X

Thankyou again.  Awesome effort. x

I'll admit something, at first I didn't think it was MJ...then I saw the same thing you did..the arthritis bump on his pinkey finger...I went thru all the pics on mjjpictures.com and on other picture sites looking for it!  Once I found that I started looking at face pictures...  There is a youtube segment that TracyK did about his walk...she did a great job showing clips of the same walk (strut) he did at the O2, on other occasions.  
[youtube:14hjye9h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMC1t6wvIw&feature=related[/youtube:14hjye9h]

[LieBecomesTheTruth]

mykidsmum you did such an awesome job! If people can look at those match-ups and still think that they are not the same person, then you will never be able to change their minds. In my opinion, they've spent so much time trying to prove that it was not MJ at the O2 arena that, at this point, they would be too embarrassed to admit they've been wrong along.  

[kemre]

MYKIDSMUM

Thank you so very much for the comparison pictures. You did a great job. That must have took a lot of work. How did you do it if you wouldn't mind sharing? ? The way you cut the pieces and put them together? Prettttyyyy cool.

I was convinced that the 02 man was NOT Michael. He looked nothing like the Michael I had seen before.

But .. those hands look like a match to me! My mom has Lupus and her hands resemble MJ's a bit. I still don't think he looks like MJ but I'm no longer convinced that it wasn't him. I would think it would be impossible to mimmick the bumps on his fingers? I mean.. come on. They'd have to make a whole fake hand.

And the pictures that you cut and put together.. looks like a match to me.

Good work

I know I appreciate it!

Thank you so much!  I do appreciate that!  Is your avatar picture you?  If it is, you are striking!  As for the pictures, I use mjjpictures.com.  I find a pic of MJ from the O2 set and using my memory (I usually know where I have seen a picture to use as comparison, one that has him at the same angle...it is just a matter of finding it again)  I don't have photo shop, I use paint and photobucket.  If the picture isn't rotated exactly, I upload the photo I want to turn, to photobucket and make a copy of it and then turn it (like if his body is not quite in the same angle) then save it and then save it to my pictures on my computer...from there I open paint and paste the photo in, re-size and crop it.  Then I open another paint, take the second comparison picture, crop and re-size it. and then cut it and go back to the first one and paste it in beside the first one.  This is where I take out my handy measuring device...a ruler!  I have to re-size the picture I just pasted until it is the same size as the one I want to compare...after a few measurements and adjustments I save a copy to use as the comparison to the one I chop up.  Then I click on the upper left button on paint and that allows me to trace a line on the picture I want using my mouse.  Then I can click on it and move it over to the other picture.  That's it!  When I'm done, I paste the original in too for comparison...LOL!  So, thank you so so much for your appreciation:)

Yes. That's me. I'm flattered! Thank you

WOW! I thought for sure that you would have used photoshop. The picture with the black hand mold.. and the 02 hand picture looks pretty awesome.

I would have never been able to distinguish the similarities that you pointed out had I not seen those photo's.

The face photo matches spot on. Good work. Kudos

[the arabian nights]

Im really sorry.. but all these hands are Michaels real hands.

The o2 guy was the REAL Michael Jackson.

If people wish to ignore the fact that arthiritis can clearly be seen in his left pinky finger.. and that this can be tracked to other pictures of MJ then, all i can say, is that some people are not willing to open their minds.

This cannot be faked... its 100 percent arthiritis as i have seen this in real life...   no way this can be faked.

Others have also posted pictures here which cleary prove that the lines of the hands and the bone structures are all the same.

I have seen more prove on this page to proof that this is the real MJ than i have seen evidence to DISPROVE.  In fact there is no proof on this thread that those hands are not the same.

Michael had a lot of work done on his face by Dr Klein in the upcoming months to that announcement.  He had fillers, etc..  clearly he has fillers in his lips and then a lot of lipstick over the top.   He has a lot of make up on in general, and is wearing a different wig.  All these factors contribute to his different look.
He was nervous as he did not believe he would be recieved well by the audience..  it had been over ten years since MJ had announced concerts and the man was very, very nervous.  Thats why his behaviour was a bit off..  its called nerves and stage fright.  Michael was a human being.

i second that  but i dont think his behave was off he was in sinq with the crowd - brill

[the arabian nights]

@mykidsmum..  its awesome how much work and effort you have put into this.  xxx

Thankyou.. i appreciate it.   For me, the arthritis was the final persuasion for me.   Now you have concretely confirmed in my head that the real MJ was at O2...  not that i ever really felt it wasnt, but MJs behaviour was just off that day so i understand why people thought it wasnt the real him. Bless him.  X

Thankyou again.  Awesome effort. x

I'll admit something, at first I didn't think it was MJ...then I saw the same thing you did..the arthritis bump on his pinkey finger...I went thru all the pics on mjjpictures.com and on other picture sites looking for it!  Once I found that I started looking at face pictures...  There is a youtube segment that TracyK did about his walk...she did a great job showing clips of the same walk (strut) he did at the O2, on other occasions.  
[youtube:tg8lcm02]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMC1t6wvIw&feature=related[/youtube:tg8lcm02]

exactly and all of this has been posted on previous doubles threads of which there must be 10 or more

[the arabian nights]

ok souza...you think the hands are different...here is the face.  And you don't have to be a fan to have a heart.

I took the cut outs and pasted them onto another pic of MJ.  Underneath is what they both looked like before I started cutting.

good work on the cut and paste

[~Souza~]

I will do some comparisations when I get home.  

[mykidsmum]

I will do some comparisations when I get home.  

Souza, I would love to see...honestly,  I would like to see something from your vantage point so I can understand what you are seeing or not seeing.  I'll be looking forward to it....Enjoy your day:)

[~Souza~]

So, like I promised, here is the comparisation. I did not alter the pics, I only scaled one pic so the nose and mouth (we can't see O2 dude's eyes) would match. Mike's chin is shorter and his jaws are smaller (which would make sense if O2 dude was wearing a mask (prostetic make-up).

It's clear the faces don't match so one of them is a double, and I am pretty sure the black and white one is the real deal, that is why I picked that picture. Of all the comparisations you made, there is not one where I am sure you compared it to the real MJ. But maybe I am wrong and i just don't know how Mike looks like.


These are the 2 pics I compared:





Split in half:




Animated comparisation. Just put your cursor on the tip of Mike's chin and wait till O2 dude pops up again. Or on O2 dudes jaw line and wait till Mike is back. No match:

[~Souza~]

And another one:

[AnnieIsNotOK]

Well...definately no match with the jaw line :?...I keep changing my mind about this 02 guy :shock: My first gut feeling was that it wasn't Michael...Then some posts try to proove it was him...Now these jaw pics...disturbing :? Will I ever make up  my mind on this :shock:  :lol:  :lol: Maybe I should stick with my first idea...it wasn't him...

[Raven]

Souza concerning the jawline and not lining up, can you do me a favour?

Walk up to a mirror. Look at yourself. Then lower your jaw but keep your lips closed. Then pull your jaw to the left whilst keeping your lips closed. And then the same to the right.
Then do the same in front of a camera and have yourself photographed and try to line up the pictures.

Another one. In your own morphing picture, focus on the lines in his lips. They are total match. Like everything else. Even the eyebrows overlap identically