Marks on MJ's hands

[this1crazygirl]

all these things seem like the effects of long term stress.

restricted blood flow is always stress releated... lack of joy, no ideas circulating, holding the natural flow of feelings/ideas in

 :?:  Michael was still creating music, formulating ideas, etc. I'm not sure I follow you're meaning. I think sometimes we add more into something than is really there. Kind of like the media when they take a story...say, one of the kids with a lazer gun, and the next thing you know they say it's a plot to use it on one of Michael's children. It just looks like ink or dirt to me. Haven't we all fallen down at some point in our lives? Before long we'll have Michael's fall as proof of his failing health. LOL.

I wasn't actually saying those problems where MJ's problems, I was explaining what circulatory problems come from. The hands I was focusing on were probably  not MJ's hands anyway cause I never saw him with long nails...

[~Souza~]

Seriously, I think MY hand looks more like MJ's than O2 dude's hand. Don't you see the hands are totally different?

Sorry Souza, I´m fond in palmistry and I´m accostumed to compare hands.
I´ve have seldom found a such a complicated and messy hand like his.
I dind´t expect to be different...

Look at all these vertical lines on the fingers (propitious, like antennas).
He also have lots of horizontals (obstacles).
Categorical double/triple lines on all the articulations (rare to find)
There are many many other aspects I see.

A double could fake many things, but not the hands.
They are the same 100% to me.

I was talking about these 2:

[somekindofsign]

I think the same about those...

[~Souza~]

I think the same about those...

Then we disagree. Those hands don't look the same at all.

[Raven]

They are totally the same Souza. As an extra, they both have 2 oval scars halfway on the middlefinger. Hard not to miss.

[~Souza~]

They are totally the same Souza. As an extra, they both have 2 oval scars halfway on the middlefinger. Hard not to miss.

Those are easily created. O2 dude's hand is wider and the tips of the fingers are different. The lines also don't match so to me: definitely not the same hands. With other words: O2 dude was not MJ...

[voiceforthesilent]

all these things seem like the effects of long term stress.

restricted blood flow is always stress releated... lack of joy, no ideas circulating, holding the natural flow of feelings/ideas in

 :?:  Michael was still creating music, formulating ideas, etc. I'm not sure I follow you're meaning. I think sometimes we add more into something than is really there. Kind of like the media when they take a story...say, one of the kids with a lazer gun, and the next thing you know they say it's a plot to use it on one of Michael's children. It just looks like ink or dirt to me. Haven't we all fallen down at some point in our lives? Before long we'll have Michael's fall as proof of his failing health. LOL.

I wasn't actually saying those problems where MJ's problems, I was explaining what circulatory problems come from. The hands I was focusing on were probably  not MJ's hands anyway cause I never saw him with long nails...

Thank you - I misunderstood what you had said. Blessings.

[Raven]

They are totally the same Souza. As an extra, they both have 2 oval scars halfway on the middlefinger. Hard not to miss.

Those are easily created. O2 dude's hand is wider and the tips of the fingers are different. The lines also don't match so to me: definitely not the same hands. With other words: O2 dude was not MJ...

They are the same and so are the scars. Anything that is identical to Michael you will label as "can be faked". In other words, it NEVER can be Michael according to you. That is not an arguement. You are bending the facts like you want it to be.

[mumof3]

I also read that michael fell over at the 02 but i cant remember where i read it.

[~Souza~]

They are totally the same Souza. As an extra, they both have 2 oval scars halfway on the middlefinger. Hard not to miss.

Those are easily created. O2 dude's hand is wider and the tips of the fingers are different. The lines also don't match so to me: definitely not the same hands. With other words: O2 dude was not MJ...

They are the same and so are the scars. Anything that is identical to Michael you will label as "can be faked". In other words, it NEVER can be Michael according to you. That is not an arguement. You are bending the facts like you want it to be.

No Raven, I am not. In MY opinion they are totally different. The fact that you disagree, doesn't mean YOU are right as well.

My argument is stated above, the hands are different because what I mentioned there. So that IS an argument.

[QuirkyDiana]

I brought this issue with the hands up because the marks were really, really noticeable on tv. I still have it all taped in fact. Having read other people's comments, if MJ did take a fall or used a cart then that on his hands is most likely to be dirt or grease.

I agree with the notion that MJ's hands are the same in both pics. I think the circular scar in particular is good proof.

[mykidsmum]

They are totally the same Souza. As an extra, they both have 2 oval scars halfway on the middlefinger. Hard not to miss.

Those are easily created. O2 dude's hand is wider and the tips of the fingers are different. The lines also don't match so to me: definitely not the same hands. With other words: O2 dude was not MJ...

They are the same and so are the scars. Anything that is identical to Michael you will label as "can be faked". In other words, it NEVER can be Michael according to you. That is not an arguement. You are bending the facts like you want it to be.

No Raven, I am not. In MY opinion they are totally different. The fact that you disagree, doesn't mean YOU are right as well.

My argument is stated above, the hands are different because what I mentioned there. So that IS an argument.

souza, MJ's hands don't look right to you because in the one from the 02 the angle is different,  his hand is tipped back more making the palm look shorter.  It is the same hand...

[~Souza~]

They are totally the same Souza. As an extra, they both have 2 oval scars halfway on the middlefinger. Hard not to miss.

Those are easily created. O2 dude's hand is wider and the tips of the fingers are different. The lines also don't match so to me: definitely not the same hands. With other words: O2 dude was not MJ...

They are the same and so are the scars. Anything that is identical to Michael you will label as "can be faked". In other words, it NEVER can be Michael according to you. That is not an arguement. You are bending the facts like you want it to be.

No Raven, I am not. In MY opinion they are totally different. The fact that you disagree, doesn't mean YOU are right as well.

My argument is stated above, the hands are different because what I mentioned there. So that IS an argument.

souza, MJ's hands don't look right to you because in the one from the 02 the angle is different,  his hand is tipped back more making the palm look shorter.  It is the same hand...

Oh, when will people realize that I'm not a moron...?

I KNOW the angle is different, but STILL I see the hands are different. The fingers, the lines, the wrist. Under the pink it's round at O2 dude's hand and straight down on MJ's hand.

O2 dude is not Mike, I keep saying that. If you don't agree that's fine by me, but I stick to it because O2 dude doesn't even look like him.

[mykidsmum]

souza, here are 4 different hands of MJ.  the top left is from O2.  I circled all the corresponding marks that are the same.  It is MJ's hand.

[TracyK]

somekindofsign I COMPLETELY agree with you! I did a video about this very thing. It's ABSOLUTELY 100% Michael Jackson!