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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 04:02:12 AM
Mike did at times apply makeup to his clef to make it stand out more.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 04:42:18 AM
Quote from: "Game Player"
Mike did at times apply makeup to his clef to make it stand out more.
hey, maybe he just changed his cleft many many times!
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 05:22:19 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Oh I see we have another "double" thread  :lol:

Seriously, I can't believe some people even THINK that O2 dude is Mike.  That guy looks NOTHING like Mike at all.  Besides the cleft there are also so many other facial differences...

I absolutely agree with you. For me that's not even a question that guy just couldn't be him. No way, never ever. Just don't understand, how can anybody ( especially some "fans" i mean they should know his face, his behaviour, his voice, his style...) think that he is. Don't see the differences or what? They r so obviously.
By the way...I've seen TII hundred of times, and i believe most of the guys in it r doubles. But that's an another thread.
And Mike is not an alien only a human like you or me his face isn't changing that much in a couple of weeks for sure... surgeries, hmm, yeah maybe, who knows. But even if he had a few...it's not like he has a look on Monday, and then on Tuesday he has a totally different look, and then Wednesday he looks like a week before.  8-)  
IMHO.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 06:30:59 AM
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*Mo*, You say that 02 guy was not MJ but how do you account for the voice. It was MJ's voice,delivery and accent. Was the imposter lip synching?

There's a devise that makes ones voice sound like someone else's voice  - it's called a Harmonizer.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 06:54:15 AM
TO ME THE O2 GUY WASNT MICHAEL ,EVENDO I HAVENT SEEN MICHAEL NEVER IN REAL ,I STILL DONT BELIEVE IT WAS HIM..ITS DIFFICULT TO PROVE IT 100% BUT STILL  :?
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 08:28:16 AM
*Mo*, Thank you. That's interesting.  :)
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: "Venus7"
All Michael.
@O2 his face was better groomed and some foundation applied on his skin, you can see it in big sized pics.
And BTW the truth is not in cleft, I would say is in his nose cavities that right and left look different and unique shape after bad surgeries, and you can see by this is all MJ
    The same thing I would say about his teeth, they are also recognizable


I agree with you, at the o2 MJ was well groomed and had extra make up on. All of the above are MJ imo. We've been debating on this for 8 months and we will all never agree which is the beauty of humans if we all agreed on everything then life would be boring. I just don't see the point in all of this, i'm convinced it was MJ at the o2 and my mind will not change on that unless MJ tells me otherwise so until then I don't see the point in pushing this topic any further.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 08:56:48 AM
Since first seeing the anouncment for the shows by O2 guy, I was convinced that this was not Mike, mainly because of the behaviour, but now that I'm looking at pic no 6 I am seeing that this MJ has that same  unusual pattern of facial hair/stubble growth. There seems to be no hair that grows on either side of his chin, but it does grow in a center strip from his lip down through his cleft and then spreads out across his throat and neck. There is also that space below his nose that is lacking in facial hair as well. So, from being convinced that   o2 guy was def a double, I am seriously reconsidering as that is one unique pattern of facial hair growth.  :?:
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 09:36:44 AM
That has always been my point too. I really don't have any idea if the O2 person was Michael, but I told everyone watching with me that day that  "That is NOT Michael Jackson, look at how wide his face is and that cleft is huge". But I just let it go, because I can't really back up that. I was in a state of shock..lol

  Yes, you can change things with plastic surgery, but if you look at the photos from the same time frame in 2009, you can clearly see the cleft is different. It just IS different. I always thought Mike had a little spot in the chin and then you see ditches. If these were taken a year apart I would have a harder time saying that I thought something was fishy, but same time frame?,,no, something definitely fishy.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 02:39:09 PM
Souza, I agree with you.
Nothing can convince me that the 02 guy was Michael.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 02:43:52 PM
but look at the teeth there the same
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 02:53:37 PM
Pic Nr. 7 is Michael, maybe he sounds not familiar to us, but it is him compare it to the pics when he walks with Paris and Prince...

O2...well I think it is not Michael
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 03:02:05 PM
And another interesting thing, why would the dancers and the whole crew be so exited that Michael would come to rehearsals (this cool move dude), when they have allready rehearsed with him...does this reaction make any sense..???!
To me absolutely not! Except it is Michael and the others were doubles who have rehearsed before with them or Michael started the reherasals with the TII dancers on June 4th.

Here is the screenshot for you from TII movie where they rehearse for TDRCAU: Something to think about...
[attachment=0:2mx7i30c]Aufzeichnen Michael is coming today camera date.JPG[/attachment:2mx7i30c]
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 03:12:09 PM
i also dont think the O2 man was Michael... his voice did sound different, and he never EVER acted like that in any of his other speeches, i mean, since when did Michael say the same thing over and over and then stop to do a dance when he was giving a speech?? :lol:
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 28, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
Last pic is def Mike for me. He looks exactly the same as the pic walking with his kids.
O2 MJ I have no idea who that guy was, he looks kinda scary IMO and his face is too long and too narrow to be Mike. And what's with the make up? He has a foundation color (the wrong color)
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