The Official Double Thread

[bec]

So in that case the question would be: WHY doubles in TII? Was that his choice, or is AEG playing a sick game here?

I speculate that the doubles play the different Michael Jacksons that the media likes to report about and portray him as.

The drug addict.

The overgrown kid who never grew up.

The wacked out weirdo.

The effeminate gay man.

The emacited old man.

TII is Michael's statement that these guys are OBVIOUSLY not him... by appearing split screen right next to them.

[kingofmystery]

That's where I got the "drowned alive" impression of a fish bowl from where Michael was watched from all sides but could NOT move (and David Blaine's poster is one of the things stuck and unresolved in my mind.) Not to forget the "free Willy" motive in TII.

Grace,
Can you clarify what you mean by "free Willy" motive?  Are you referring to anything more than the whale in Earth Song?

[Grace]

That's where I got the "drowned alive" impression of a fish bowl from where Michael was watched from all sides but could NOT move (and David Blaine's poster is one of the things stuck and unresolved in my mind.) Not to forget the "free Willy" motive in TII.

Grace,
Can you clarify what you mean by "free Willy" motive?  Are you referring to anything more than the whale in Earth Song?

That's what I am thinking of. This is a very strong motive just like the forest lawn. TII holds many story layers.
It is also about "Air to breath" - and for this the doubles were needed.
You cannot do everything alone in such a project. This is impossible.

[Magic Tricks]

Make up and shadow can make features look different.

In the Smooth Criminal pic he is wearing a hat and heavy make up.

Thats true!! I had worked on a beauty salon and I know that the make up artist use some make up on peoples nose to make it look thiner or different and in pictures with the light and everything, the nose looks really different...

Well, i AM a make-up artist and i'm saying that you can change a lot of things with make up, but NOT the teeth, NOT the ears, and NOT the whole face... :roll:

  I know that you cant change the whole face with make up..   but the NOSE can look different in a picture with some make up, the lighting and the angle of the pic...

[mjthelegendlives]

This thread is getting ridiculous.

What some people in here are saying, is: "Michael Jackson doesn't exist!"

The reason is, whatever I post of pictures of Michael Joe Jackson, some people believe strongly it's an impersonator. You think Michael Joe Jackson isn't himself, because he is not allowed to change in your minds! Michael Jackson is so much more than just a media target. Some people believe it's not Michael Joe Jackson, because he for some reason change his look all the time.

You got to realize it, the lad became a man! This is an age difference from 1988 to 2009.. 21 Years!






I don't know if you know, but he looked like this.. :


But ended up like this..:



I don't know what you believe, or "know".. But Michael changed. Maybe he changed in This Is It,
but WE DON'T KNOW for how long they have been doing This Is It rehearsals..


Not all pictures look the same, you yourself know that. Michael Joe Jackson looks different each time he is going outside his house. Soon some people will believe in the theory: Michael Jackson died black, impersonators has been used since..

I don't know what you actually believe.. But once again.. Michael Joe Jackson is 50 years! He is not longer 42 from the Reunion with his brothers, Michael is not longer the lad from 1980's and 90's..

He is 50! It's limits for a 50 year old man with lupus, what he is capable to do. "His moves doesn't look good, he dance like an impersonator.." Yeah.. Maybe he does, he is not 20,30 or 40 years.. He is 50..



Now, the LAST thing for you believers of "Michael Jackson didn't really exist; Cause there were only impersonators of Michael.." Go to the mirror, or pick up your camera.
Try to look..
-Serious; Relaxed, Try to take in the cheeks..
-Exited; Happy, close your eyes to focus, try to bit your lips.
-Sad; Serious, Relaxed, Curious, Tired..
-Rough; Take your lips together, Focused on something, Slowly breath..

These four "try to look" are how Michael is on these pictures.. Good luck!

If you're still not convinced that all four are Michael.. Uhm.. Then you did never knew who MJ was, because all you saw was impersonators.. You're saying MJ is an imposter now, so how are you sure that Michael actually is alive? How can we know how he looks like then? Which health he is in or not..

Bravo...excellent post!

[DancingTheDream]

Picture of MJ with no make up:

[i[MISS]my[KING]]

^^^ he's so gorgeous.

[JACKSONGIRL]

I know the last pic is the real one cause I heard him speak in the movie and he was so cute bubbling his gum!

Without teeth?!  Deffa cool moof....

What do you mean I donrt understand sorry

how do you know he doesnt have teeth? were you his dentist for the day!!! he sounds funny because of the way hes chewing his gum, i do it all the time when i play around with my gum noone understands me, logic people logic!

[Marissa87]

Picture of MJ with no make up:

Where did you get that photo?

[Marissa87]

[youtube:baqfdb33]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5JulslECmo[/youtube:baqfdb33]
1:00 :O !!!!!!! we was suppose to be on the this is it tour or something :S

And now I have a crush on Earnest Valentino. Thanks.

[CrazyBanana]

[quote="*Mo
How do you explain that "the world press was present at the O2 conference" yet all the pics taken came from WENN?

In my opinion, O2 was staged as hell...  

In all these months, have we found ONE SINGLE FAN who was present there?  No!  How do you explain all the pics showing the present 'fans' holding up cameras and cell phones, yet NO pics other then the ones from WENN have emerged yet..?  Come on, MySpace and Facebook would have been flooded with those pics IF fans would have attended that press conference...[/quote]

well werent there fan videos on youtube...and there was a member on here that said they were there, I dont remember who but I think it was a topic on a telepromter because they were saying he/she saw someone setting it up....
but that doesnt prove it wasnt a double though...

[iMJacksonfaN]

Seems like it's at least three marks/scars.

You can clearly see his lips has 'been through' a make-up.

THIS IS FOR SURE MJ!!!! IN A STUDIO!!! look his glasses, u see the reflection of something (LIGHTSS???)

Lights?

At a press conference?

Never  

Really??than what are those ""creatures" in the corners of the stage? i think we should be more careful in investigating...before jumping in conclusions

Because of the lights at O2, he wore sun glasses. Must be a 'pain in the ass' to take those glasses off. Cause the lights are STRONG!

[misha86]

For me the proof is that I see Michael Jackson on those pics. Common sense doesn't lie.
It's not realistic at all to claim it's somebody else

. its not realistic to ignore the physical differences in these people and just assume they are mike. Your only seeing mike in all the pictures because thats what you want to see, there is plenty of photographic evidence that these are all not the same people...

Do you have proof that those are doubles?  :roll:


please explain how his ears are bigger in the first picture and not in the 2nd? again you are only seeing what you want to see

It really disturbs me when you guys don't have proof those are doubles

you keep saying this and yet there are PLENTY of pictures that show the difference in facial features in 3months...you have not supplied 1 thing to show that IT IS mike other than "you see mike"

and then make fun off his appearance by saying it can't be Michael because the cleft "looks like an ass" and call it investigating. That really disrespectful to Michael.

lmao no its not disrepectful, mikes chin doesnt look like an ass, thats other guys does therefore i am not making fun of him, mike has had a cleft since what 1987 and it has never extended that far! but again you seem to ignore that shit its must be mike  :roll:

I don't think there were any doubles but if you want to examine wether there were doubles it can be done with respect for Michael. There's no need to make fun off HIS features

and for the last time THAT IS NOT MIKE! you can go to his website and look at ALL the pictures from the bad era and on , even at the annoucement, and he has never ever ever had a cleft like that!

[misha86]

Picture of MJ with no make up:

look at his chin and nose on this picture and then compare this to the 3rd and 4th pictures that were posted in first comment..how can you say that all 3 of them are the same person??? :lol:

[PinkTopaz]

The official O2 pics were all photoshopped - although it is so visible that it must have been done either by unprofessionals or in a real hurry. But if they would have been in a hurry, they would release several pics and leak the others later. So my conclusion is that the O2 pictures - despite so much effort was put into "making believe" it was a huge event - were photoshopped by people not knowing how to do it right or the miserable outcome was on purpose to draw attention to it.

The pics at the cinema one day later are not photoshopped as well as the one from behind the curtain.
O2 announcement was an "all bluff incorporated" show - check the pictures giving the full scene with camera, light, spectators - what a miserable location, what a miserable tiny curtain for the King of Pop. They tried with as little effort as necessary to achieve a publicity take for the world tour announcement. Cheap and ugly if you ask me.
I have no doubt from the parts of the pictures that they forgot to photoshop (they really did a very miserable job) that it was all Michael.

For the doubles there is no doubt they were used - but not at O2 announcement.
For a double you don't need all those hounds keeping a watching eye on Michael if he did it right or not. O2 was Michael in a goldfish bowl for which reason ever.

How do you explain that "the world press was present at the O2 conference" yet all the pics taken came from WENN?

In my opinion, O2 was staged as hell...  

In all these months, have we found ONE SINGLE FAN who was present there?  No!  How do you explain all the pics showing the present 'fans' holding up cameras and cell phones, yet NO pics other then the ones from WENN have emerged yet..?  Come on, MySpace and Facebook would have been flooded with those pics IF fans would have attended that press conference...

I definitely agree with you, Mo, it was staged as all get out, but I remember last March that there were a couple of people who said that they were going and then came back and said they went and took pics.. If anyone could look at the back pages of Anything For News at MaxJax, I hafta go to sleepy now..