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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
February 28, 2010, 02:55:58 PM
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The day we find out MJ is "with us" and hopefully "back" I will cry with such relief and then do the happy dance of "i told you so" all over my friends who are non believers. I will show them im not crazy and shammmmmme on them.

How about: embrace them and "shamone" on them  ;) ?

I never smiled so much before like now when a "non-believer" repeats media crap to me as proof why Michael must be dead.

I will for sure say (I am human, God forgive) "I knew it and you never believed me".
I don't assume they will gather around me to hear auntie Grace's fairy tale but I hope they will join me in laughing a breaking hole in the walls around us. They already looked at me like an alien (we witnessed a green man from outer space, too, didn't we?   :mrgreen:) so I can take some more...  :lol:  :lol: I learned to laugh about nobody else more than myself since June. If that doesn't help, I don't know...  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 06, 2010, 07:16:35 PM
Then, there will be much more to be done. I*ll be happy and relieved.
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 07, 2010, 11:05:16 AM
A lot of mixed emotions to be honest. Relieved that he is ok, ectastic that he's alive and sad that this whole adventure is over. But overall I think I'll probably be ectastic! :D
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 07, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
cc that is just beautiful

like bob ewing
rewind selecta

what would you do if it was announced that mike would be doing the o2 shows? then he came to the 02?
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 08, 2010, 02:38:18 AM
ahhh....... now how do i answer that?... i will cry. the moment i'd hear it i will cry as hell!i'm sure all of us will not be in a "normal" state of mind that day. i will cry and laugh at the same time. i'd faint. i will scream! i will laugh! i will cry for joy! then i will do anything, i mean anything, to fly to wherever Michael would be to see him, to touch him, to hug him. these 10 months+ however long he takes to come back, will be more than enough to drive me crazy for wanting to hug him and hold him  so tight for so long. i wouldn't mind if i die in his arms.

i will try and tell him how much i love him (that if i ever get to talk to him), i will tell him that we share the same dream that is to be happily married and have a beautiful family with wonderful children. i will ask him if he would marry me.... cause i know what he deserves.. how much love and care he deserves. and i KNOW i will give him more than that.

ok now coming back to reality, i will give a speech to my family and friends and whoever didn't believe me, called me mental, psycho and even wacko, a "prejudice is ignorance", "just because it's in print, doesn't mean it's the gospel", "innocent until proven guilty, alive until proven dead" titled speech lol.

i will feel tired, exhausted, relieved, happy, a li'l depressed as the greatest show on earth would come to an end. but as long as Michael is happy and well, i will be the happiest person in the world. Michael's well being, safety and happiness is all i ever ask for. i hope he will be showered by all the love the world could hold.
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 08, 2010, 09:00:16 AM
Words cannot even describe it!!! I will be OVERJOYED and so happy. Absolutely elated!!!

I will cry tears of gladness and finally sigh a huge relief once it is all over and Michael is back
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Speechless, Speechless, That\'s how you make me feel!!!
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 08, 2010, 09:26:01 AM
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yearh, and then we can keep an eye on Jermaine, cause he's probally gonna hoax his death when Michael comes back, trying to get attention :D
Well I won't be so obsessive in finding all the answers with that one.
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 08, 2010, 09:59:43 AM
Does anybody know what this means?
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("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 08, 2010, 11:02:39 AM
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That is a good question but a tough one for me to answer.

I don't 100% fully know what we're looking for as we investigate the hoax. Therefore how will I  know when it's  over? It might already be over and I just haven't realized it yet.

Exactly my thoughts
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 09, 2010, 07:01:43 AM
OVER????

Any idea what it is going to take for this search for the truth to be over?
# if he returns, how do we know it isn't a double?
# he has so much explaining to do that he might as well make a 3 hour film and name it:"Why and how I hoaxed my death". And even that could create a new hoax!
# So many people will have so many questions.
# So many people and the press will have so much criticism and those are going to crusify him all over again. I am sure Michael knows this and is not looking forward to it!
# I don't know when and if he is going to return, but this story is not over yet. That I know for sure.
# Some say Michael never said :"See you in July 2009". But why did they sell all those tickets for the concert in July 2009?
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 09, 2010, 07:25:42 AM
If MJ decided to re-emerge to public life, the world as we know it will never be the same again.

The hoax deth of Michael Jackson, would re-write all the history books.

The world will be a different place, and people will become more aware of what is really going on around us, so for this reason, it will affect not only us believers,
but will effect the whole world as we have never seen anything like this before!!

I will just be proud and delighted that I believed and never gave up hope even we things were against us.  I want to stay in touch with everyone on the forum and share out feelings.
I feel  sad that Michael Jackson had to endure so much pain and was forced to do this in the first place.

I would love to continue to show him all the love and support , and share it with you guys!
I hope that maybe we can show out faces to eachother after its all over.  That would be nice to put a face to the usernames!!!!!!!!!!!As always, with unconditional L.O.V.E  xoxoxo
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 09, 2010, 08:33:57 AM
for me its sorta over, dont think he made it out of the kill box, and if he had, so much time has now passed - that i cant see why he is waiting,

the feeling that why would he allow these infidels to control the most important aspects of his life in such a long absense does not make sense.

so it is over, just waiting for the trial

but the true pushes the true haters the most influential business haters will count their fiscal rewards and just look for the next deal to cut

question i find more interesting is what will it take for you to believe its over.  yes the obvious mike - appearing - then yes  of course. but otherwise?
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 09, 2010, 12:33:42 PM
I look at it this way: before concluding any outcome, I have to go through the structure of an investigation and respective checklists. The amount of "yes" / "no" answers will give some direction of what could be possibly a description of the "case".

Which are:
1) the motivation
2) the overall goal
3) the objectives (measurable)
4) the measures leading to the results
5) the opportunities to execute the measures
6) potential helpers

Let's start with the motivation for a kill box scenario:

- money related: do you kill the golden cow you are milking? not likely.
A cow goes only to the butcher when it does not give any milk anymore and is only eating hay thus producing cost and no profit. This you do to a cow that has no voice.
Doing that to MJ would mean he had no voice and was one amongst others. Was this the case?
So death IMO is only an option if the $$$ following the death will be more than continuing alive. This is an investor's view (they have overtaken music business as well and MJ was no case for a bad bank): capital rent in the long run must justify short-time investments. Which means when one gives one dollar to finance a show, film, performance, art project, he expects two in return. Did that happen? I don't have the exact figures but yes, the death option was likely more successful in turnover and profit than the alive option, to date.

How does the death option pay off in the long run?
You keep a fog of "maybe, maybe not" as major marketing route in order to keep folks emotionally hooked (I would say to keep them abused but that's not a valid or important argument to marketing strategists). So marketing may at every second determine what folks are doing (in other words buying thus increasing the $$$).
Announcement of unreleased material of a dead one? All will be running to get some copy.
Announcement of return of a dead one? Some may turn away saying "I was fooled" and would feel / claim having been emotionally abused thus reducing financial and reputational success of the overall strategy. Some may not afford the tickets.
Some may lose interest as "the case" is solved etc. Some may rush to get the tickets. Some may (now) say: you never know who is on stage, if it's the real deal. Some would run there exactly driven by the doubt and try to find out during concert whether the man is really the man (remember Barnums "What is it?" exhibition).
In any case there would be uproar throughout the world if the "dead" would return on stage.
For the better, for the worse?

- not money related: I have not seen any aspect of MJ's life not being related to money when it comes to people around MJ. MJ himself would be the only person IMHO who could have had also a non-money-related motivation to chose the kill box (hoax his death). This could have been a spiritual reason (religion), an ethical reason (dangers of today's society), a family related reason (general - heart doctor /family doctor theme, personal - sharing the last years with his mom e.g.), an environmental concern (Amazon theme) or another motivation like V for Vendetta e.g..

Detailing the motivation one could go on with "MJ's personal motivation / MJ's business related motivation / entourage motivation / entourage business related motivation" and other specifics. All other parts of an investigation structure may follow.

Some interesting stuff on structure of investigations is to be found here:
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etc.

My personal conclusion after these months is that the kill box was playing a major part in the story but that MJ did turn the chess table around redefining the rules following his intentions.
I do not see any need for MJ to come back and certainly not soon as the seeds are just growing small plants. He needs strong trees though.

I still recommend a good soda, popcorn and a cosy sofa, well tied ropes and a safety jacket during the trial. We will continue to see mud fights and more and more lies.
I just personally hope the kids will not be called in to testify.

Will the hoax be over with the sentence? I don't know, to be honest.
There's much more to expose, there's endless subjects to get our hands and attention on.
And if MJ's motivation had to do with exposure, there cannot be a final point of "game over".
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Create your day. Create the most astounding year of your life. Be the change you want to see in the world! L.O.V.E.
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"I am tired, I am really tired of manipulation." Michael Jackson, Harlem, New York, NY, July 6, 2002
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******* Let's tear the walls in the brains of this world down.*******

Time to BE.

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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 09, 2010, 12:38:56 PM
yes you could kill the golden goose  cow or what ever if that goose cow did not do what you said and you could earn money regardless of them being alive - pp get murdered for less

i dont think this is murder in the strict sense i think this started long ago - it just got worse - till a predictable outcome - think that is way the jackson family are a bit distanced from the whole experience

dont think this is a marketing campaign mike knew his worth - god one man who knew it when you watch footage of him in neverland - when he is just talking you can see he was the whole package - humble but he knew - he was great and he did not disappoint. he did not need to big himself up by faking his death have you seen the awards he had
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Re: How will you feel when it's over?
May 09, 2010, 12:43:16 PM
the kill box does not relate to hoaxing death - it relates to be in a position where you are going to get killed - army positioning  - gult war - thing

you are an open target
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