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[Ninanina]

Wonder WHY was it so URGENT to REMOVE the original link from youtube?
Besides I'm in Hungary and there were nothing about the fake picture in the media neither on tv nor on the net... :(
I see truths are coming, hope BAMSDAY is near  :P :P  :P

NO media reported about that. Only 'private' blogs, MJ fan sites, hoax forums, twitter. But no media comment on that. Come on, not even TMZ!!! And I posted three comments about that on TMZ.com, but they didn't publish them! MAYBE there was some problem at transfer, but I don't think so - they rather didn'T want them to show up. Around that time I looked through the comments, and NOT A SINGLE comment was made about Brian Oxman and the fake photo.

[Infinitylady]

Ninanina » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:48 am

Michelle wrote:
Wonder WHY was it so URGENT to REMOVE the original link from youtube?
Besides I'm in Hungary and there were nothing about the fake picture in the media neither on tv nor on the net...
I see truths are coming, hope BAMSDAY is near

NO media reported about that. Only 'private' blogs, MJ fan sites, hoax forums, twitter. But no media comment on that. Come on, not even TMZ!!! And I posted three comments about that on TMZ.com, but they didn't publish them! MAYBE there was some problem at transfer, but I don't think so - they rather didn'T want them to show up. Around that time I looked through the comments, and NOT A SINGLE comment was made about Brian Oxman and the fake photo[/b]

Hah!!!  :lol:

Doesn't this sound familiar!!!  :lol:   You probably won't get a response from them for a good while.  Sounds like the time when it took them AGES just to post about MJs death on their site.  I don't believe its no problem at transfer. They just didn't post it, simple as that. It will be awhile before it get posted about the fake one too.  :lol:

[Integrity]

Ether he is apart of the plan or he is the enemy. He said they drugged him and the family did nothing to stop it. My question is WHERE WAS HE AND WHY DID HE NOT STOP IT OR AT LEAST TRY.
I CAN NOT FEEL HIM AT ALL. HE SOUNDS LIKE HE IS IN COURT WHEN HE IS TALKING ABOUT MJ.

[Hazzely]

yup this was since the old forum, this comparison, and well, this pic part seems obvious enough to me that it's fake, first of all because we dont have any other photos from that day in the ambulance (thre were lots of paparazzis there, someone else could have taken a pic not only that guy, friend of Mike), and well, second cause those 2 photos are too similar, mouth part, eyebrows, eyes..everything!

[Integrity]

THIS IS AMAZING! HOW PLEASE TELL ME CAN THERE BE NOT ONE REAL PICTURE OF WHAT HAPPEND JUNE 25. NOT ONE! NOT ONE PICTURE ON MIKE! WOW!!

[Empathy]

they need to pay us for our hard work us discover that long time a ago this shit is falling down like a house of cards. Why now is a Joe so angry at MJ that he is trying to expose him this is really confusing.

Because Joe did,nt get his cut to keep quiet?

[Empathy]

mmmhhh..I don't know if to be happy or not... He admits the picture is a fake,but he says Dr Murray is a murderer....

....if he was, it was,nt Michael.

Could be the reason why you cant pull a trial off accusing someone of murdering someone who they did,nt murder...

What a tongue twister!!

[Serenitys_Dream]

I didn't see this posted anywhere so I thought I would put it in this thread.

©NATIONAL PHOTO GROUP
Emergency crews respond to the home of Michael Jackson where he was treated medically and then rushed to UCLA Medical Center.
Job: 062509J4
EXCLUSIVE June 25th, 2009 Los Angeles, CA
nationalphotogroup.com

From Maximum Jackson: http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=17617

This was posted by daisy @ MJJC who used the ET image with Exif find out what information is attached to the ET pic. She not only found that the picture was made @ 12:08 (before the ambulance was called!) but are clear cases of photoshopping involved:

OK I post the data again - maybe you guys have some more ability to read it.
the "time" data are highlighted again

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[Serenitys_Dream]

Also Ben Evenstad says in an interview with ABC News that the photographer he had sent out to Michael's home on the morning of June 25th looked into the Firetruck and saw the display screen inside.

In the VH1 reenactment Ben says when he arrived he looked inside the firetruck and saw the screen and doesn't mention the other photographer being the one to have seen that screen.

Starts @3:49 of the video

[youtube:2lsc919q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRsHDwpDA1o[/youtube:2lsc919q]

In an interview with Vanity Fair Magazine Ben says the following:

On June 25, National sent a photographer named Alfred Ibanez to the house. Just after noon, Ibanez called Evenstad, panicked: "There is an ambulance here. Get your video camera and get here now."

On the way to the scene, Evenstad called Chris Weiss and the rest of his photographers on their cell phones, ordering them to Jackson's house immediately. Weiss, who was staking out Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's driveway...raced 7.9 miles to Jackson's. He arrived to find the National photographers (the only paps there) talking to two fans and three autograph collectors who'd been in front of the house all morning. Weiss saw an ambulance inside the gates and a fire truck parked on the street. Ibanez had zoomed in through the window of the fire truck with his telephoto lens and snapped a picture of the call screen, which provided a few details about the situation inside. At this point, Weiss's experience as an E.M.T. came in handy. He read from the digital image: "50-year-old male ... not breathing ... "

"That told me this was probably serious," Weiss says, "and not just an anxiety attack like he's had in the past." Still, he adds, "you can never know exactly what 'not breathing' means at that point. It's laypeople being quoted in a clinical context." The more time passed, the less serious Weiss figured Jackson's problems must be. "We were there for 20 minutes," he says, "and if you've got a full arrest"—when a patient really has stopped breathing—"the paramedics usually load and go within 8 to 10 minutes."

Having been scooped in the past, Evenstad knew anything could happen. As the ambulance started backing down the driveway toward the gate, he barked orders at his guys: "This might be the biggest picture ever, so get up to the windows of that vehicle and shoot. I don't care if you can't see. Just shoot." When he saw Weiss standing a foot from the window, he worried that Weiss would get nothing more than a picture of the reflection of his own camera flash. Weiss says, "Ben told me, 'Put your lens against the window, and shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.'"

"We couldn't see inside the ambulance," Weiss continues. "For all I knew when I was taking the pictures, Michael could have been sitting up on a gurney with oxygen on."

The National photographers jumped in two cars that followed the Jackson entourage's two blue Escalades that followed the screaming ambulance to the emergency room at U.C.L.A. medical center—and by then, TMZ and other paps were on the scene. When Evenstad rushed the ambulance, one of Jackson's bodyguards tried to block his camera and said, "'C'mon man. Don't do this. This isn't cool,'" and Evenstad said, "'When it's this big, we have to,' and I ran around to the other side, because at a certain point there's no delicacy. We gotta do what we gotta do."

Weiss saw a look on the guards' faces that made him believe something was really wrong: "They were being aggressive, but it was remorseful aggressiveness. 'Please guys, please just stop.' They kept saying 'please.'"

By then, Weiss had checked the last few frames he'd shot through the ambulance window, and all he saw was a reflection on the glass. "I thought, I didn't get it. I was depressed that I missed a shot that could have been a big deal."

Evenstad collected the memory cards from everybody's cameras and headed to National's office to edit the images. Not long after, he called Weiss again: "Chris, you have made up for every knucklehead maneuver you have ever done. We have a usable frame of M.J. in the back"—the now ubiquitous shot of Jackson strapped to a gurney, his face shown in profile as one paramedic attempts chest resuscitation and another pumps oxygen into his mouth.
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2009/07/michael-jackson-photo200907?currentPage=2

So they only got that one picture...

Then why are there two?
And the angels are different, the paramedics knee is closer to Michael's ear and eyebrow (in the first one I have posted here).

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[attachment=0:2lsc919q]ambulance pic 2.jpg[/attachment:2lsc919q]

[LadyMedic]

So they only got that one picture...

Then why are there two?
And the angels are different, the paramedics knee is closer to Michael's ear and eyebrow (in the first one I have posted here).

[attachment=1:fm311cug]ambulance pic 1.jpg[/attachment:fm311cug]
[attachment=0:fm311cug]ambulance pic 2.jpg[/attachment:fm311cug]

There are more than two, actually, I believe there are 3? They were all taken in very fast succession. I'm no camera expert, but I'm assuming since they were photographers, their camera is capable of taking numerous shots in that manner. Here's a thread where it was discussed:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... 3&start=75
On the main page -
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/
Towards the bottom under "The Weird List", #9

I think the thought of him saying there was one and there being 3 was just that there weren't different pictures. Different meaning from the back windows, a good view of them coming out of the house, a bunch of different angles/views in the ambulance. It's essentially 3 of the same view. Nothing is different enough about them to say they have a bunch of photos of the incident. That's just my thought. I also think that Ben is just trying to milk his 15 minutes of fame to 20 minutes and he'll say whatever he can to get/keep eyes on him.

And as a side note, that "the paramedics usually load and go within 8 to 10 minutes" thing definitely does not apply to ANYONE who would be in this situation. Famous, not famous, hoax, not hoax. And the manner in which the events have been stated about the alleged cardiac arrest, it made FAR more sense for them to stay on scene than to load and go. I can post numerous sources about prehospital cardiac arrest care, and you will never see that they should "load and go within 8 to 10 minutes". Thank goodness Chris doesn't practice in EMS anymore. No wonder why. Both Chris and Ben seem awfully sketch to me.