The Official Autopsy Report Thread

[tabloidburn]

There is a difference between resting and relaxing. With REM sleep, your body is resting and restoring. REM sleep is essential for your health. Essential in meaning: you will DIE if you do not get regular sleep.[/quote]


which is exactly why anaesthesia is not suitable as a sleeping aid. you feel like you have slept but you haven't. you skip the phases of healthy sleeping, which are necessary, you just knock out.

[the arabian nights]

There is a difference between resting and relaxing. With REM sleep, your body is resting and restoring. REM sleep is essential for your health. Essential in meaning: you will DIE if you do not get regular sleep.

which is exactly why anaesthesia is not suitable as a sleeping aid. you feel like you have slept but you haven't. you skip the phases of healthy sleeping, which are necessary, you just knock out.[/quote]

i think thats right, i have had alot of surgery and when i have woken up i have  felt awful, zombie

[DancingTheDream]

here's a vid about michael's 'missing nose', an interview with geraldo and someone who claims that michael had a prosthetic nose (some pics are just tasteless, disregard that, please!). is that even mentioned in the autopsy report, if this was true? i've read through about half of it and some other bits and pieces, but didn't find anything about an 'absent nosetip' or the likes yet. i figure that would be in there...?

anyway, towards the end of it, there is a pic of michael (from the side, at 1:55) where i think i see a scar behind his ear which appears to be quite large. but then, i thought the base of the neck would be more towards the shoulder? or is the base where the skull ends? help, anyone?  

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Hmm..  yes i see the scar on the neck here.    :?

And, thing is, Geraldo Riveria.. i thought he was a friend of MJs???  Yet he says he witnessed MJ "take off" his false nose and he just had a band aid over a lump?     Yet the autopsy didnt say he had a prosthetic nose.  It said gauze on the tip and then "nasal structures" UNDERNEATH the skin... so it wasnt a nose that he could take off whenever he felt like it because the structure was underneath the skin.

Hmm..  confusing...

[youtube:3sfrp3yh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0oI5Q8Kfc[/youtube:3sfrp3yh]

[Raven]

here's a vid about michael's 'missing nose', an interview with geraldo and someone who claims that michael had a prosthetic nose (some pics are just tasteless, disregard that, please!). is that even mentioned in the autopsy report, if this was true? i've read through about half of it and some other bits and pieces, but didn't find anything about an 'absent nosetip' or the likes yet. i figure that would be in there...?

anyway, towards the end of it, there is a pic of michael (from the side, at 1:55) where i think i see a scar behind his ear which appears to be quite large. but then, i thought the base of the neck would be more towards the shoulder? or is the base where the skull ends? help, anyone?  

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Hmm..  yes i see the scar on the neck here.    :?

And, thing is, Geraldo Riveria.. i thought he was a friend of MJs???  Yet he says he witnessed MJ "take off" his false nose and he just had a band aid over a lump?     Yet the autopsy didnt say he had a prosthetic nose.  It said gauze on the tip and then "nasal structures" UNDERNEATH the skin... so it wasnt a nose that he could take off whenever he felt like it because the structure was underneath the skin.

Hmm..  confusing...

[youtube:1rmux8uf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0oI5Q8Kfc[/youtube:1rmux8uf]

Can you point out exactly where in the report it says 'nasal structures'?
It says "The oronasal passages are unobstructed. A bandage is present at the tip of the nose." on page 15

[DancingTheDream]

@RAVEN...  page 13  (or 32 on the actual document).. it has a big 13 on the top left.

It says "nasal bones are obscured by overlying cranial and facial structures"    :?

[ASHTANGA]

"nasal bones are obscured by overlying cranial and facial structures"  :?:

For me it has to do with the plastic surgery he did on the nose.

But... any doctor here to explain this?  :?


This story that he took and put his nose to me is a joke. Obviously this is not true and the nose of his.

[DooDoo]

Please don't we start speculating about him having no nose, please ...it's just absurd, he's got a nose. Full stop. End of the story.

[DancingTheDream]

Please don't we start speculating about him having no nose, please ...it's just absurd, he's got a nose. Full stop. End of the story.

This is a discussion about the autopsy which we are investigating to see its validity.  This is not a discussion about making judgements on MJs decision to have or not have rhinoplasty.  But the fact is, this is what it says in the autopsy report and i want to know exactly what it means.

Other people have said in interviews he had a prosthetic nose he could take off, others have said this is nonsense and his nose was his... yet in the autopsy it says "nasal and cranial structures".  We have to investigate to find out the truth.

Its a necessary evil to discuss this.

[MissG]

I agree.This needs to be discussed from every angle.

 In many pics his nose has a different colour, actually looks like a silicon nose. Is nothing wrong about it and I would not be surprised that a mayor damage happened after surgery, making the cartilage structure to colapse. MJ would not be the first person having an intervention that could may been going wrong. Some people even die after an intervention.
 
Medical negligence of aesthetic doctors is well known for not taking the patient´s psycho in consideration but their money.

This has nothing to do with love for MJ or respect, is a medical condition that needs to be contrasted in order to set some logic in to the autopsy report.

[Raven]

@RAVEN...  page 13  (or 32 on the actual document).. it has a big 13 on the top left.

It says "nasal bones are obscured by overlying cranial and facial structures"    :?

Ok thanks...this most likely has to do with the plastic surgery. Bonecrafts possibly

[Datroot]

So if we are to believe the autopsy report, do we believe MJ is dead?  I can't believe it in light of all the clues we have - so where does this leave the autopsy report? :?:

[Raven]

I agree.This needs to be discussed from every angle.

 In many pics his nose has a different colour, actually looks like a silicon nose. Is nothing wrong about it and I would not be surprised that a mayor damage happened after surgery, making the cartilage structure to colapse. MJ would not be the first person having an intervention that could may been going wrong. Some people even die after an intervention.
 
Medical negligence of aesthetic doctors is well known for not taking the patient´s psycho in consideration but their money.

This has nothing to do with love for MJ or respect, is a medical condition that needs to be contrasted in order to set some logic in to the autopsy report.

The different color may be due to vitiligo discoloration. Patches of skin, especially after plastic surgery may therefore get different colors.

[Raven]

So if we are to believe the autopsy report, do we believe MJ is dead?  I can't believe it in light of all the clues we have - so where does this leave the autopsy report? :?:

I find this difficult to fit into the "alive" picture Datroot.

[lynnandsofee]

I would like to question the part in the report where they collect hair samples from him in the yellow casket with the blue lining.  Latoya was there, however it says the body was wrapped in white towels and sheets, and the only thing that was visable was his hands and top of his head.   :roll:  :roll:  What where they hiding?  why wrap him in towels and sheets?  No one could see his face

[DancingTheDream]

I would like to question the part in the report where they collect hair samples from him in the yellow casket with the blue lining.  Latoya was there, however it says the body was wrapped in white towels and sheets, and the only thing that was visable was his hands and top of his head.   :roll:  :roll:  What where they hiding?  why wrap him in towels and sheets?  No one could see his face

Out of respect?  Isnt it custom to cover a corpses head and face with a sheet?