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Quote from: "~Souza~"Don't feel attacked if someone says it's a hoaxBut that's my point! Pink Topaz reacted defensively (as if i had attacked her) when i offered another opinion - 'don't be so quick to push me to believe he's passed'. It's just another side of the coin. How is offering another insight 'pushing'. It makes it sound like anyone who suggests anything pertaining to MJ's 'death' is somehow threatening other people with that opinion. I didn't say that Pink Topaz's opinion was wrong, i just offered mine. No offense intended Pink Topaz.However, i was told that my opinion was wrong, 'Well, he is not dead so you can rule out murder here' - Souza - . Turn that around, if i say, 'Well he is dead, so you can rule out hoax theory here'. I wonder how well that would go down? I don't feel attacked if someone says it's a hoax or murder, because i sit in neither camp. However, it is common sense to want concrete evidence for either theory if you want to be sure, otherwise it just remains a theory. I guess that's why we debate.'Quote from: "~Souza~"We are investigating a hoax, not a murder. I would just say we are investigating? If something comes up that suggests murder, should it be supressed because it does not fit in with a hoax? Do you want the theory to fit around the facts or the facts to fit around the theory. I think the former is the rational way to go forward. Am i to think then, that you know it is a hoax and you're exploring how he did it? I thought that people on here were investigating to ascertain whether MJ had hoaxed or not, to find the truth of what happened in those last days. My question is do you want people to investigate open-mindedly, and entertain all the possibilities of MJ's 'death', or do you just want the hoax? I ask these questions peacefully.
Don't feel attacked if someone says it's a hoax
We are investigating a hoax, not a murder.
'The Jackson family has stated they believe Murray was an accomplice in an evil cabal, possibly connected to Freemasons and the Illuminati cult, and plot against Michael to drug, control and murder him for monetary gain'You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginDiscuss!
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"'The Jackson family has stated they believe Murray was an accomplice in an evil cabal, possibly connected to Freemasons and the Illuminati cult, and plot against Michael to drug, control and murder him for monetary gain'You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginDiscuss!So i put my opinion foward. Unfortunately it doesn't appear that the family have been quoted or filmed as saying the above paragraph, nor have they explicitly said words like 'Freemasons and Illuminati Cult' to my knowledge. So i don't think any conclusions can be drawn from this article in my opinion. It's obvious though that the family believe something untoward has gone on (not an accident) that either caused MJ to lose his life or hoax his death. Just don't know. No proof either way from this article
Despite that distinction it is still interesting that PMD would scratch the surface of any story related to Freemasons and Illuminati. That is a subject that other media sources have often ignored. I am interested to see how PMD follows up with this story and if other publications decide to report any news about the subject. Sometimes media will copy each other if they think that readers are interested in a subject. If so, then that will speak volumes.
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"'The Jackson family has stated they believe Murray was an accomplice in an evil cabal, possibly connected to Freemasons and the Illuminati cult, and plot against Michael to drug, control and murder him for monetary gain'You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginDiscuss!So i put my opinion foward. Unfortunately it doesn't appear that the family have been quoted or filmed as saying the above paragraph, nor have they explicitly said words like 'Freemasons and Illuminati Cult' to my knowledge. So i don't think any conclusions can be drawn from this article in my opinion. It's obvious though that the family believe something untoward has gone on (not an accident) that either caused MJ to lose his life or hoax his death. Just don't know. No proof either way from this article While Joe is not actually speaking out the words, he's still saying it.
I know this sounds strange so don't get me wrong, but this is the best news I have been woken up with in a long time. It's good to see this has been picked up my the media. It doesn't really matter who started it, just the fact that it's out there will cause other media outlets to take another look at it and pick up on it as well. Like Souza already said, we are bombarded with emails from reporters, but until now no one seemed to have the guts to write about it while they know very well that Illuminati and freemasonry do exist and what they are capable of. I can only applaud, this is a major step in the right direction!
Mo netary gain hmmmm......., I wonder who is paying Cm lawyers fee...., are his lawyers taking his case Pro Bono as CM is supposed to be broke. Attorney fees for criminal charges can be in be in the $100,000range or more. I wonder who is paying for it, if we ;knew we could almost get an idea, who is backing Murray. Or who is in on the conspiracy.
Quote from: "letstalkagain"Mo netary gain hmmmm......., I wonder who is paying Cm lawyers fee...., are his lawyers taking his case Pro Bono as CM is supposed to be broke. Attorney fees for criminal charges can be in be in the $100,000range or more. I wonder who is paying for it, if we ;knew we could almost get an idea, who is backing Murray. Or who is in on the conspiracy.I wonder who paid his $ 75,000 bail...OH I FORGOT! The bail was $ 0.00 :lol:
I wonder who is paying Cm lawyers fee....
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