Official back & Front thread

[Loveunited]

"Afterall, it IS a choice we have ALL been given...."

Beautifully said BTC. Always a choice, on so many different levels!

[wishingstar]

@Loveunited & @RK: I am glad to hear that ^^
Because at least in my country, people are still very much unaware (ignorant) and the few who know something are in denial....
I still don't have the courage to open up a subject like NWO with anyone here... except maybe my mom who knows things and maybe.... MAYBE one or two friends who accept the discussion even though they are not very sure of anything lol

My experience is along these lines as well, with not many around me 'aware' of the world outside their little bubble.  Prior to June 25th, I rarely came across people who were researching 'world events' or interested in supposed 'conspiracies'...while generally unhappy with 'life' (the daily grind), for the most part, most just 'accepted' that that's what life is all about.  This has never sat well with me....and being unable to find like-minded people...I began reading everything I could get my hands on....just trying to find some measure of 'order' in all the DISorder I saw all around me.  I do believe that 9/11....as horrific and tragic as it was....did help to open the eyes of many (sad that it took something like that to do it).  And I also believe that Mike's 'death' served this purpose as well....awareness and awakening.

To RK's great post about showing the world, or at least our loved ones, our true 'selves'....I have always been a bit (or alot lol) 'off the norm' and everyone I've ever met knows/knew that.  My approach prior to June 25th, and up until about a year or so into the hoax, was to 'cautiously' bring forward topics that most around me were not discussing (the hoax, 9/11, NWO, etc).  I was met with looks of sympathy at best (like I was nuts lol)...or ridicule and/or rudeness, at worst.  Some of those that did either ARE loved ones....the ones who supposedly love you unconditionally and are, supposedly, there for you no matter what.  The experience I've had here....being a part of this great journey....has opened my eyes to many, many things....some very painful things that became apparent as time went on and knowledge increased.  As painful as it has been, at several turns along the way....friendships/relationships lost, doors closed, feeling alone while surrounded....I will be forever grateful for the lessons learned and the _ew (lol) and positive changes that have come about out of the negative.  I no longer raise these topics with any, other than my children or those who ask.  I often read my children posts from the forum (I've involved them in every step of the way), they are very aware of the NWO, very aware of God/love/'oneness', and very aware that this is NOT the life that we (collective) were meant to live.  They are aged 14 and 11.  I have often been 'rebuked' for educating my children on these issues....and still caution my children about where/when/with whom it is 'appropriate' to discuss certain things.  Sad, but true....I know the rejection I have received from many and do not want my children to go through that on their own.  Having said all that...if/when the day comes when those who treated me negatively in the past approached me, wanting to know more....I would welcome them with open arms....no apologies needed.

I came across this quote just the other day....and it really resonated with my outlook at this time:

Few will listen,
Of the few who listen,
fewer still will understand
Of the handful who believe,
most may not know what to do
Those who even know,
how many will actually do?
And the rare ones who have done it...
Need not listen to you anymore.

It all goes back to taking the red pill or blue one....one moves you forward, the other doesn't move you at all.  After one has repeatedly tried to help others move forward...only to be met with rejection and ridicule....a point is reached when one must choose to remain behind or keep moving on...even if it means leaving some behind.

I've chosen to move forward....but will gladly pause at any time along the way to welcome any choosing to move forward as well.  Afterall, it IS a choice we have ALL been given.

With L.O.V.E. always.

Awesome post BTC.......indeed, blue or red.  Sometimes, I don't feel like moving forward.  It's like exercise; I don't want to, but really need to.  Afterwards, I always feel better as well.  Thank you for these wise words.....always encouraging!

@Sim.....yes a very big SHOCK......the deeper the sleep, the bigger the shock....bring it : )

Blessings to you guys and all........
LOVE

[Jos]

Does anyone questioning why we don't hear/read anything from mr. Front anymore?
At least TS said that he won't post after BAM, but mr. Front just dissapeared...

[BeTheChange]

@LoveUnited and Wish...thanks for your comments, blessings to you both  :icon_razz:

I completely agree Wish...'moving forward' is definitely not the 'easier' path, much easier to just stay put lol.  It's MUCH like exercising haha (for me, it's kickboxing)...I sometimes dread it, much 'easier' to grab a bag of cheetos and put some 'dead' weight on the couch lol.  But, once the 'pain' of the exercise is over with....the rewards become obvious and any 'pain' worthwhile.

Anything worth fighting for often involves a 'fight'....sometimes with oneself  :icon_e_wink:

@Jos....yes, I too often wonder about our dear Front.  Where the heck is he???  No doubt, he's putting the finishing touches on that great feast he's been busy preparing for what feels like a lifetime  :icon_albino:  If you are reading, Front...in the words of our dear Wish, why don't you 'snippet us'?....give us another small taste of what you're cooking up  :ghsdf:

Edited to add this vid...after I read RK's post, this was the first song to pop into my head  :beerchug:

With L.O.V.E. always.

[wishingstar]

@BTC....I love that song : ) If I remember right, the first time I actually heard it was on American Idol...Bo Bice.
What ever happened to him?  He was one of the first guys I really followed with the show....wow, that was a long time ago
too!

[MaryK]

Just now on the official MJ FB:

:icon_albino: :th_bravo:

[SimPattyK]

OMG ! never before seen pic for me!

[SimPattyK]

Now that I managed to shake myself off from that L.O.V.E.L.Y. pic :) :icon_lol:

I just gotta say I love that "whisper"...taking into account our discussion about NWO on the previous page  :icon_e_wink:

"Right ON! We separate FACT from fiction !"

[MJonmind]

"Right ON! We separate FACT from fiction !"

Oh yeah! 

BTC, I homeschooled my 3 all the way, and when they were younger, I shared all I was discovering or speculated, but then as they hit University and job worlds, etc. they began to re-evaluated and I guess thought 'No it can't be true after-all, Mom's the one who's wrong'.  But I do think the knowledge is in them, it just needs something more to reassure them I was right at least in some things.  So BTC, I think that as you try to instill alternative thinking in your kids, they will have an easier time understanding these times than the general sleeping population.  Seeds planted, you know.  I always think that the book I read at 16, The Chariot of the Gods, was the seed planted in my mind, but it lay dormant for about 35 years up to the advent of the internet.   So we need to plant seeds around us, even if they lay dormant for a while.

Wish, I really liked Bo Bice, back when I was really into AI!   Too bad he didn't make it, but maybe things are rigged somewhat...

[SimPattyK]

[....]And it's true, there will be a lot going on after the bam....

yes! Reminds me of: "What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning."

As painful as it has been, at several turns along the way....friendships/relationships lost, doors closed, feeling alone while surrounded....

I know exactly what you mean!!

I often read my children posts from the forum (I've involved them in every step of the way), they are very aware of the NWO,[...]

WoW! that's great!

...if/when the day comes when those who treated me negatively in the past approached me, wanting to know more....I would welcome them with open arms....no apologies needed.

Sometimes I thought about that too... and i would do as you said.
But you see, generally, stubborn and full of ego people, who insult/ridicule others for what they don't understand at a particular moment, when they finally come to realize the truth, they NEVER admit that to people who first tried to open their eyes! They find all ways to say they came to that conclusion by themselves...they even try to deform what you've told them first and make it look like they have discovered by themselves better and more things than you! loll I've seen that in my life!

After one has repeatedly tried to help others move forward...only to be met with rejection and ridicule....a point is reached when one must choose to remain behind or keep moving on...even if it means leaving some behind.

True! And the more time passes, the less patient I am with this kind of people and the more easily  I MOVE ON !!

Afterall, it IS a choice we have ALL been given.

EXACTLY! If they choose to sleep, ok then wish them "Good night!"
You can't force anyone to open their eyes! You tell them once, if they are willing to listen ok, if not then ok again.
The worst mistake you can do is insist! The more you insist the less willing to listen they are.

Does anyone questioning why we don't hear/read anything from mr. Front anymore?

Don't worry, it's not unusual for neither Front nor TS to be absent for weeks/months even.
The last time they posted was November 29th, right?

So we need to plant seeds around us, even if they lay dormant for a while.

I agree!!
I'm sure that most people are in denial of this knowledge because they are afraid to accept it. They need something more to allow themselves to believe! As long as they see that the world goes in the same direction, they will never embrace that CHANGE, because let's face it: it's difficult [crazy] to stand against "the wave" !! So until something MAJOR happens and motivates more people to stand UP , there won't be a change! because now FEAR to oppose the system is more powerful than any logical FREE thinking! That's why when your children grew up and entered the system, they were overwhelmed by it and everything you alone taught them seemed so "minuscule" compared to the rest of the world who is going right in the opposite direction! So what they humanly did: they ADAPTED to the environment in order to survive in it! But as you said, the knowledge that you taught them, must be laying somewhere...dormant... in their subconscious mind!

[Dontwalkaway]

I try to spread information also but most think it's ridiculous.  I keep trying any way.  We need a big "shock" and "wake up call" to wake up the masses.  I hope it's soon.

Love Revolution     :abouttime:

[Jos]

Just now on the official MJ FB:

:icon_albino: :th_bravo:

I like the "We seperate Fact from Fiction part"

Also noticed:

"You'll love him this season"
"What really happened"

[Sarahli]

Now that I managed to shake myself off from that L.O.V.E.L.Y. pic :) :icon_lol:

I just gotta say I love that "whisper"...taking into account our discussion about NWO on the previous page  :icon_e_wink:

"Right ON! We separate FACT from fiction !"

Yes that's a great reminder at the apex of the hoax and Front said it as well.  :icon_albino:  :icon_e_wink:

FACTS vs. ILLusion.......

By listening, one will learn truths.
By hearing, one will only learn half truths.
By watching, one will learn to decipher between the two.

[BeTheChange]

@MJonmind/MJonline  :icon_razz:....of all the things I have greatly admired and respected about you (and there's been many)...it has been knowing that you home-schooled your children that stuck with me most.  As a teacher myself, I have nothing but THE highest regard for anyone who chooses, or is able to, educate their own children.  Educating children is, most definitely, not an easy thing to do....at times requiring the patience of a saint lol...and home-schooling your own children is even 'harder' than educating other children.  I believe that ALL knowledge is valuable...and that knowledge IS power.  The things you taught...or discussed with...your children are there, even if dormant...much like what I try to teach my children.  Some of that may never come to pass....some might be far from 100% accurate.  IMO, what matters is, as you said...that the seeds are planted.  IF the time comes that the knowledge is required or beneficial....they are one step ahead of the 'game'.  You can't possibly hope to challenge or 'lift the veil' of the 'illusion'....if one is not even aware than the 'illusion' exists.

@Sim...you always manage to bring sunshine to my day  :icon_razz:  After reading your comments....this is what came to mind:

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

As you so brilliantly noted...no-one can, or should, force others to think 'differently' or to see beyond what they've been told.  Although it is frustrating at times to see 'ignorance' alive and kicking....even with ALL the info that is readily available....we must accept that we cannot change what others don't want, or are not ready, to change.  Energy is much better spent on the things we can change.

@Wish...I LOVED Bo Bice!!!!  He was my fav of that season and I was disappointed when he was eliminated.  Thanks for the way-back playback  :icon_razz:

With L.O.V.E. always.

[everlastinglove_MJ]

I assumed and I take the "Army of Love" as something thatr extends past Michael.. I never saw it as HIS army as he is leading, but rather standing side by side, helping man kind in any way that is possible, from helping lift an elderly persons bags into their car, on to the bus.. allowing those in need the seat that you're using, acts of kindness... to donate in to causes, to treat one another with compassion, equality and love no matter who they are, to lend a hand where ever is possible given what ever situation you're in, not everyone can afford to fly to countries where volunteers are needed, or donate large sums of money to very important causes. I thought being a part of the "army of love" was contributing to the world in a positive way, no matter how small or great a person can. To put compassion, joy, wonder and ultimately inject the most important ingredient back into this world. Love.
A smile in the street can do wonders to another persons soul, giving a little loose change to a child who is little short to buy that lolly they wanted can mold that child into a much positive adult, to help an elderly person with anything they need, gives them back faith and a small amount of happiness that they aren't alone, little acts constantly done can bring great waves of love back to this world, and whether it was inspired by Michael or just by a persons soul to do so really makes no difference, some people have felt this wish to help and put love into the world all their lives, other peoples were inspired by the man himself. I'm not in the "army of love" because of Michael... he helped strengthen my constant work in showing love, compassion and giving but he didn't trigger it, I stand beside him and support his desire, I help feed his dreams as I help feed my dreams and everyone Else's who dream the same for humanity and this earth.

I have written this without re reading but to me I know it makes sense even if it doesn't to anyone else...

I have written this without re reading but to me I know it makes sense even if it doesn't to anyone else...

Your post made sense to me, it really did. I keep believing that there is care and love in everyone. It's Michael's call for awareness and L.O.V.E. which makes your LOVE come to surface and it is up to each of us individually how to convey this love in this world, e.g. to help your neighbors, to drink a cup of coffee with the lonely elderly lady on the corner or help pack food boxes for your local food bank. I think it's important to have and keep faith in L.O.V.E., to believe in your love and in the love inside others, to know what a positive power love has inspite of all the hate and negativity in this world. LOVE will conquer after all.