Official back & Front thread

[paula-c]

I think it's understandable the feel of insecurity and doubt that some of us are experiencing, and it shouldn't be surprising. After all, there's only few days left until January 2013 and I for one can't feel the "BAM is in the air" theme. Shouldn't there be signs if it were to happen ? Yes, I know the cliche answer - the element of surprise - but still, will all the wrongs be righted in 23 days ?!

This.

"I am of the intuition that this stain shall be removed in due course" --back, 11/18/09 mjjc

We are running out of time for this prophecy to be realized in accordance with our 'informant's' deadline.

"may know"-- allowed to know, able to know, capable of knowing..?

Good lord... what if Jordy's statement is the Bam...

https://twitter.com/MJCH_com/status/277389630091976704
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23496.0/topicseen.html

What IF The Bam has already happened? While ya'll are too damn busy being selfish and only concerned with me me me and well IF MJ don't Bam~ I'm gonna be pissed off because I wasted 3 years of my life on this hoax or IF I don't get to see the Bam/MJ in person I'm gonna be pissed off. Blah Blah Blah! I could go on endlessly with statements like this. Have you stopped to consider How MJ feels regarding ALL of this? I mean this is HIS LIFE we are talking bout here NOT ours.

Have you stopped to consider what it would feel like to be reading statements regarding how pissed off your fans would be IF you didn't Bam? Return/show your face in public again? Do you know how that would feel to be only human and a MAN who just wants to live his life and be happy? Can you give him that?

Can you give him the consideration of maybe this is overwhelming... and maybe the Bam wasn't exactly what ya'll perceived it to be. Maybe the Bam happened while you were asleep. Maybe the Bam is taking what you've learned over the last 3 years and move forward/carry on with MJ's message of L.O.V.E. and Help him realize his Dream of helping children. Here's a group who has gone on to help make MJ's dream a reality.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MJCHOfficial?feature=watch
https://twitter.com/MJCH_com

Um yeah I know how this post looks and ya know what? Whatever your thinking your probably right. lmao! I'm tired!

I'm frustrated by what I read of all the whining and complaining. I have yet to watch or read anywhere that MJ complained/whined about anything he did for his fans. Yeah~ so suck it up and keep watching.

P.S. I don't need no stinkin' warnings on my comment or any scoldings. lmao! FYI: I quoted these posts but my comment is for everyone who reads my words.

Peace N hair grease!   :bearhug:

Very well.

And if nothing happens we all know that MJ is alive, what more could you ask for? 8)

[rachel1018]

Sorry off topic, very clever words:

Genevieve Jackson ‏@RealGenevieveJ
Time does not exist, time only measures your patience.

yes!! patience is a virtue.......

[bec]

We will all have coping mechanisms to deal with this if nothing happens. Some will be healthier then others. Many here I know will be just fine. I hope I will be fine. Some of you will be fine eventually. We will all be fine given enough time. This too shall pass.

But there are reasons why we are all here. Each person here has a deeply personal reason for being a part of this community. Some we have shared and some we never will, but they are all valid and not superficial.

[Im_convincedmjalive]

We will all have coping mechanisms to deal with this if nothing happens. Some will be healthier then others. Many here I know will be just fine. I hope I will be fine. Some of you will be fine eventually. We will all be fine given enough time. This too shall pass.

But there are reasons why we are all here. Each person here has a deeply personal reason for being a part of this community. Some we have shared and some we never will, but they are all valid and not superficial.

bec-

It's not about me thinking that your frustration is superficial or any other nonsense you could come up with. The thing is I worry for you and others who put so much hope in this Bam. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but I have been watchin' human nature for a very long time. I'm not just talking bout this forum either girl. I see sadness and despair in many comments regarding the Bam.

I see people pinning their lives on the Bam. I have rarely seen comments letting MJ know it doesn't matter anymore because we know he is safe and alive and that's good enuff for me/us...

I rarely see comments made of positive things people are doing as an inspired thing that MJ did for them. He can NOT save us and he can NOT save the world by himself.

I only wish for you to be happy bec regardless of the outcome, just be happy! Go outside and plant a tree in MJ's honor. haha Miss Green thumb!   :icon_e_wink:

[bec]

Nonsense?

[ellyd]

If these last pages wouldn't be so sad to read I would be inclined to laugh about these irrational excrescences.

Sometimes there is blessing in keeping our mouths shut. They don't catch flies then.

Katherine Jackson's lawsuit against AEG has been scheduled for trial in April 2013.
This is the real schedule.

Back to mutual respect, if feasible.
I think some apologies are due.

[MJonmind]

ImConvinced

What IF The Bam has already happened?

Not if you believe TS is Michael or closely representing him. We have not had Update #7 yet.
And after Bam he says it's only the beginning.  Well, well, well, I guess we're going to have to stick around! :michael_jackson-1135:

6-15 Running Out of Ideas?
Yes, this redirect also had the "BAM" in the signature.  Especially in view of that last paragraph: Update #7 most likely will not be before bamsday—whether that is in June, July, or later.  There may be more redirects, but probably not on a regular or daily basis.

6-16 (Waiting for) Update #6
And when bamsday does come—whether sooner or later, there will of course be great rejoicing!  But don't expect things to just go back to entertainment as usual; as you already know, if you've read all the TIAI/TS posts, there will be a major battle ahead (Army of LOVE).  And remember the following, from Threatened lyrics {http://http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-jackson-lyrics/threatened-lyrics.html}: "What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.  It isn't.  It's the beginning."

R42. "This Is It" AND This Is Also It (CNN iReport)
Finally, some have asked what does the "also" refer to in TIAI?  In addition to the music and entertainment in TII: TIAI is the wake-up call message, to see the NWO for what it is—and join the Army of L.O.V.E. to help heal the world, etc.

Our discussions on TPTB, Illuminati, FBI, etc. have been what TS was wanting, at least much of it.

TIAI Revealed, Part 2: Outline of Redirections
Most of the clues were discovered, but some were not.  All in all, though, there were many who did an excellent job of solving the clues.  And I stand in awe of Carol—who was indeed "Touched By An Angel"—and was the first to sense the truth that TIAI was pointing to, and posted an excellent description of the message {http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-things-f8/this-is-also-it-t3233-50.htm}.  Notice that she said "I have NEVER had anything hit me like this"; indeed, God had sent an angel to touch her heart! And there were many others who did a great job in figuring out the clues and the message.

Hmm... Michael the Archangel I presume!  Signs #1-7.   Also matches Back's N7DT.

On helping heal the world--IMO being here for these 3 1/2 years was our training. I could not have been volunteering somewhere, working, caring for my family, and being here keeping up.  Jesus was with his 12 disciples (and women who travelled with as well) for 3 1/2 years too, and then he sent them out, commissioned them. I spent about 30 years of my life volunteering hard core, much of it with children, but my world-view was what the church and media had taught me.  Thanks to MJ/TS/Front, and all of you, I will be seeing differently now!
:bearhug:

[MJonmind]

Mjj4ever777

Hello sweet MJonmind, or should I now call you MJonline!!! I just noticed that as I write this you have 6/25/9 posts!!! Now that is quite the "COINCIDENCE" isn't it?  WOWZERS!!! Just wanted to point that one out!!

I send you all the LOVE your Heart and Soul can handle!!!! Of course that goes for everyone here!!

Right back atcha!  You seem to be so overflowing with extra love, and it's contagious!  And I sure hope those words are true, MJ is and has been online with us!  No, I truly believe with all my heart!  Thank you for all your encouraging words!  We all need them especially now! Blessings!

[Thriller4ever]

ImConvinced

What IF The Bam has already happened?

Not if you believe TS is Michael or closely representing him. We have not had Update #7 yet.
And after Bam he says it's only the beginning.  Well, well, well, I guess we're going to have to stick around! :michael_jackson-1135:

6-15 Running Out of Ideas?
Yes, this redirect also had the "BAM" in the signature.  Especially in view of that last paragraph: Update #7 most likely will not be before bamsday—whether that is in June, July, or later.  There may be more redirects, but probably not on a regular or daily basis.

6-16 (Waiting for) Update #6
And when bamsday does come—whether sooner or later, there will of course be great rejoicing!  But don't expect things to just go back to entertainment as usual; as you already know, if you've read all the TIAI/TS posts, there will be a major battle ahead (Army of LOVE).  And remember the following, from Threatened lyrics {http://http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-jackson-lyrics/threatened-lyrics.html}: "What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.  It isn't.  It's the beginning."

R42. "This Is It" AND This Is Also It (CNN iReport)
Finally, some have asked what does the "also" refer to in TIAI?  In addition to the music and entertainment in TII: TIAI is the wake-up call message, to see the NWO for what it is—and join the Army of L.O.V.E. to help heal the world, etc.

Our discussions on TPTB, Illuminati, FBI, etc. have been what TS was wanting, at least much of it.

TIAI Revealed, Part 2: Outline of Redirections
Most of the clues were discovered, but some were not.  All in all, though, there were many who did an excellent job of solving the clues.  And I stand in awe of Carol—who was indeed "Touched By An Angel"—and was the first to sense the truth that TIAI was pointing to, and posted an excellent description of the message {http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-things-f8/this-is-also-it-t3233-50.htm}.  Notice that she said "I have NEVER had anything hit me like this"; indeed, God had sent an angel to touch her heart! And there were many others who did a great job in figuring out the clues and the message.

Hmm... Michael the Archangel I presume!  Signs #1-7.   Also matches Back's N7DT.

On helping heal the world--IMO being here for these 3 1/2 years was our training. I could not have been volunteering somewhere, working, caring for my family, and being here keeping up.  Jesus was with his 12 disciples (and women who travelled with as well) for 3 1/2 years too, and then he sent them out, commissioned them. I spent about 30 years of my life volunteering hard core, much of it with children, but my world-view was what the church and media had taught me.  Thanks to MJ/TS/Front, and all of you, I will be seeing differently now!
:bearhug:

very nice post MJonmind...thanks for posting these....felt great to go through these once again, sort of re-assuring.

@Im , though i know that being desperate about BAM is not good, my desperation was always FOR Michael, not for my life or any of my personal interests. it was always about his vindication and the justice he deserves. This hoax is, against TPTB and illuminati...and these institutions give room to a little scare regarding what Michael is really going through, is he safe, happy and what all is to happen, what the TRUE story is...it's a centralisation of insecurities...I don't think any of us here (who are worrying) are worrying for themselves, their benefit... I never thought beLIEvers were selfish cause are not...

[BeTheChange]

MJonmind

On helping heal the world--IMO being here for these 3 1/2 years was our training. I could not have been volunteering somewhere, working, caring for my family, and being here keeping up.  Jesus was with his 12 disciples (and women who travelled with as well) for 3 1/2 years too, and then he sent them out, commissioned them. I spent about 30 years of my life volunteering hard core, much of it with children, but my world-view was what the church and media had taught me.  Thanks to MJ/TS/Front, and all of you, I will be seeing differently now!

Very well said!

While I do believe that going out and doing something positive is beneficial and needed in order to 'change the world'...I also believe that that wasn't the main purpose behind these 3 1/2 years...our being 'here'.  It's been kinda like MJ saying...before you can/do go 'out there', stay with me a little while 'here'.  That, in NO way, means that we shouldn't 'go out' when/if the opportunity presents itself or when we're able to.  But until the one going out has been changed...until their eyes have been opened to what truly needs to change, both internally and externally...the changes, while positive, will only be temporary and/or small scale when compared to 'changing the world'.

Mike was/is a HUGE champion for suffering children all over the world...to this day, the one person who has given the most to help those in need.  What he gave did change lives for the better, no doubt about it...both those receiving the aid and those seeing him extend his hand and heart...and he deserves a special place in Heaven for all the lives he touched and continues to touch.  And yet, there are still children starving all over the world...more so now than ever before in human history...there are still children dying of diseases for which there are cures....there are still children being turned onto drugs, except now the 'dealers' wear lab coats and write prescriptions...there are still children not being given a 'real' education...there are still children being locked up for the color of their skin...and there are still children who are exposed daily to lies, false ideals, questionable 'ethics', and decaying morals...through everything they see, hear, learn, or are told to believe.

Until people 'wake up' to the core changes needed...ANY good works we can do, while great and helpful, will not result in the worldwide change that is needed.  The entire system needs to change...the same system that makes it very difficult to 'go out' in the first place by having people working multiple jobs just to have enough money to feed their own children.

"If you wanna make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and THEN make a change".  The 'change' becomes greater and more powerful when the one making the change is fully awake and aware.  These past 3 1/2 years, IMO, were Mike's way of helping us take a look at ourselves...not only our personal selves but also the world around us that GREATLY affects every aspect of our 'selves'.  As MJonmind said...it's been a training exercise.  And the purpose of any 'training' is to gather the skills, knowledge, self-confidence, and power to prepare for, and succeed in, what is to come.

I don't believe the 'best' has come yet...we're still waiting on Mike's command to begin.  But I do believe that the 'what is to come' is just around the corner.  Instead of passively waiting for it, there is plenty of training that still can, and should, be done...so that we are fully prepared to support Mike when THE momMent arrives.

With L.O.V.E. always.

[MJonmind]

BTC   :th_bravo:

[Jos]

glad 2 have the forum back online  :multiplespotting:

[Thriller4ever]

glad 2 have the forum back online  :multiplespotting:

yeah...i was worried something was wrong with my connection....

[Andrea]

MJonmind

On helping heal the world--IMO being here for these 3 1/2 years was our training. I could not have been volunteering somewhere, working, caring for my family, and being here keeping up.  Jesus was with his 12 disciples (and women who travelled with as well) for 3 1/2 years too, and then he sent them out, commissioned them. I spent about 30 years of my life volunteering hard core, much of it with children, but my world-view was what the church and media had taught me.  Thanks to MJ/TS/Front, and all of you, I will be seeing differently now!

Very well said!

While I do believe that going out and doing something positive is beneficial and needed in order to 'change the world'...I also believe that that wasn't the main purpose behind these 3 1/2 years...our being 'here'.  It's been kinda like MJ saying...before you can/do go 'out there', stay with me a little while 'here'.  That, in NO way, means that we shouldn't 'go out' when/if the opportunity presents itself or when we're able to.  But until the one going out has been changed...until their eyes have been opened to what truly needs to change, both internally and externally...the changes, while positive, will only be temporary and/or small scale when compared to 'changing the world'.

Mike was/is a HUGE champion for suffering children all over the world...to this day, the one person who has given the most to help those in need.  What he gave did change lives for the better, no doubt about it...both those receiving the aid and those seeing him extend his hand and heart...and he deserves a special place in Heaven for all the lives he touched and continues to touch.  And yet, there are still children starving all over the world...more so now than ever before in human history...there are still children dying of diseases for which there are cures....there are still children being turned onto drugs, except now the 'dealers' wear lab coats and write prescriptions...there are still children not being given a 'real' education...there are still children being locked up for the color of their skin...and there are still children who are exposed daily to lies, false ideals, questionable 'ethics', and decaying morals...through everything they see, hear, learn, or are told to believe.

Until people 'wake up' to the core changes needed...ANY good works we can do, while great and helpful, will not result in the worldwide change that is needed.  The entire system needs to change...the same system that makes it very difficult to 'go out' in the first place by having people working multiple jobs just to have enough money to feed their own children.

"If you wanna make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and THEN make a change".  The 'change' becomes greater and more powerful when the one making the change is fully awake and aware.  These past 3 1/2 years, IMO, were Mike's way of helping us take a look at ourselves...not only our personal selves but also the world around us that GREATLY affects every aspect of our 'selves'.  As MJonmind said...it's been a training exercise.  And the purpose of any 'training' is to gather the skills, knowledge, self-confidence, and power to prepare for, and succeed in, what is to come.

I don't believe the 'best' has come yet...we're still waiting on Mike's command to begin.  But I do believe that the 'what is to come' is just around the corner.  Instead of passively waiting for it, there is plenty of training that still can, and should, be done...so that we are fully prepared to support Mike when THE momMent arrives.

With L.O.V.E. always.

Well put! I don't believe the best has come yet either.  I think it's important to take what's been learned here and applying it to the real world - even the small things can make a big difference in one person's life.  But a mass wake up is needed, I agree.  I think many of us have done positive things/volunteered/made someone's day but don't seek recognition for it.

glad 2 have the forum back online  :multiplespotting:

yeah...i was worried something was wrong with my connection....

I don't know about everyone else but I go into panic mode when the forum is down.   :icon_lol:

[Jowayria]

glad 2 have the forum back online  :multiplespotting:

yeah...i was worried something was wrong with my connection....

Omg I totally freaked out and started thinking " what if this is being done by Michael ? " " what if this  his way to tell us that Bamsday is on the way ? "

I'm sarting to scare myself ! Gosh !  :icon_e_sad: