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[lilwendy]

“but visions are then revealed through the haze” … not sure if I am correct but this made think of the figurative keys and this is something else that I understand from the poem -- that God showed something to Michael.

Sarahli I have suspected this for a while now (as I'm sure many have).  The thing is, as soon as some people say they think Michael had visions, people start accusing others of saying he is being treated as a god or prophet.

Not necessarily.

In Acts 2:17 it says "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:"  You and I could have dreams/visions because this is what will happen in the end times.

It happened before in the old testament with King Nebuchadnezzar "But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these...: Daniel 2:28

I honestly believe that as we get more in tune with what is going on in this world on a spiritual level, you will have more of US coming forward and telling of our OWN dreams and visions.

Blessings to you!

[wishingstar]

Sorry guys, English is not my native language! There is something I didn't understand in that poem. Is it that we have to promise Michael to believe that he believes in us or is it that he is promising us something? Sorry, I didn't understand that part! I need some help, please

Is it having to do with this part:


P.S. My dear friends,
just as you believe in Michael, he too believes in you
take these words to heart
for they are sincere and true.

beLIEve that!
heart 2 heart.......
Promise.


I take it to mean that Front is promising us that Michael believes in us, as much as we believe in him. 
Not just "beLIEve" as in hoaxer, but we believe in him as a person, a man behind the famous persona. 
He believes in us as people, not just the personas of a username created here.  It's heart to heart, spirit to spirit.....
not just keyboard to keyboard.  I don't know how Front can make such a promise....however, I have faith that
Front knows what he's saying.   
I probably made it more confusing....I hope not though.  I am so glad you asked diggyon.....I know much gets lost in translation.  I tried to read the Italian forum....Ugg......translations.  I love all the international languages here...nothing but huge respect!!!!  Two languages can't survive in my little brain!!!!! 

 :smiley_abuv:  x 777

Blessings & Love

[everlastinglove_MJ]

Thank you, Front, for your moving poem, I took your words to heart.

LOVE always

[MJonmind]

Do, thanks for finding that Murray vision!

I’m still 50/50 on Murray being MJ. Nobody can quell those feelings in me as of yet.

maybe Front had an 'off-day' with the wording of this sentence!!

No, I never believe that to be the case, sorry… :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

Wishingstar, good catch—The Norm! That’s like Mic Jack!
Norm (that’s my daughter’s boyfriend!) :icon_e_biggrin:

Hey, there’s no such thing as ‘normal’… :icon_geek:
About the name ‘Bob’, I like Rowan Atkinson’s way of saying it at 5:23 – 6:20! :icon_lol:

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Sarahli

“but visions are then revealed through the haze” … not sure if I am correct but this made think of the figurative keys and this is something else that I understand from the poem -- that God showed something to Michael.

Yes, some kind of revelation, “in jolts” as Back said.  Perhaps to do with his role on earth, perhaps the destiny of mankind IDK…

Souza, I'm glad all our messages don't need to be deciphered like that! :icon_lol:

[MissG]

WOW O______________ö

It was 11 pages ago that I logged in for the last time. I had a couple of comments to make but decided to scann and read a bit before posting. Too late to give opinions. However, I wonder if the "Bob" some of you are talking about is the medium that made a MJ seance and posted in youtube in 2009? I can post the link later if you want.

Front´s latest post, the poem, reminds me of Christian poems. But that poem could apply to anyone during life. Even I felt that sense of someone listening and helping at some point. I call it my human nature on my rescue, others call it God and others would surely have another name for the experience.
Very nice poem and touching.

@souza, what means the code you posted?

[MissG]

Is that "he" believes in you or "He" believes in you.

I'm clarifying because this statement could be saying we believe in Michael and Michael in turn believe in us or it could be we believe in Michael BUT don't forget... God believes in us!

I understand it as if we are idolizing MJ meantime we are forgetting that there is a God who we should idolize instead for he believes in us and loves us.

In any case, both of them, MJ or God, people have not seen for very long....with the exeption that we did see MJ at some point so we know at least that he existed.

[wishingstar]

@MJonmind....
OMGosh I love Rowan Atkinson......and I love Top Gear!  What a great combination....
I had no idea he was a gear-head! The Black Adder is still one of my favorites.....it's all so cleaver. 
I just watched Top Gear the other day too.......the celeb was the German Formula One racer,
Sebastian Vettel.  He was great. 
Rowan A. was hilarious on the show....thanks for the link!

Too funny you write "Mic Jack"...I have that written down next to me at the moment....great minds!!!!

Have a beautiful day/evening!
Blessings Always

[Do]

“but visions are then revealed through the haze” … not sure if I am correct but this made think of the figurative keys and this is something else that I understand from the poem -- that God showed something to Michael.

Sarahli I have suspected this for a while now (as I'm sure many have).  The thing is, as soon as some people say they think Michael had visions, people start accusing others of saying he is being treated as a god or prophet.

Lilwendy, I agree with you. But still, there are so many quotes from Michael that raises a big questionmark in my head. May I ask you how you interpret Michaels open letter to People's Magazine?

"Like the old Indian proverb says, do not judge a man until you've walked 2 moons in his mocassins.

Most people don't know me, that is why they write such things in which most is not true.

I cry very often because it hurts and I worry about the children, all my children all over the world.  I live for them.

If a man could say nothing against a character but what he can prove, his story could not be written.

Animals strike, not from malice, but because they want to live.  It is the same with those who criticize.  They desire our blood, not our pain. 

But still I must achieve.  I must seek truth in all things.  I must endure for the power I was sent forth.  For the world.  For the children.

But have mercy, for I've been bleeding a long time now.

MJ

He isn't God, but to me it feels like he was sent with a special mission. But I could be all wrong. And this is just one example.
And what about the bleeding? Is this literal (like Jesus?) or figuratively? I have so many questions but I have little to no knowledge of the bible  :icon_redface:
 

[curls]

Regarding Front's P.S.  I think he meant it as he wrote it: 'he', as in Michael, not He, as in God, because the purpose of the P.S. in my interpretation, is for Front to include reassurance for those who do not believe in God and who therefore may not take comfort from, or identify with, the main body of the poem itself.

@MJonmind, LOL, I was looking for a clip of Blackadder saying 'Bob' a couple of days ago, or when ever it was Souza was talking about her Bob, but I couldn't find one, so thanks for the Top Gear clip. (I've always secretly fancied Rowan Atkinson especially as Elizabethan Blackadder, Mr Bean .... not so much!!)

[And yes, @wishingstar, Vettel was hilarious too - I loved his English dialects!]

[~Souza~]

OMG, lol. You guys DO know that the name 'Bob' was made up by me right?  :icon_lol:

[MJonmind]

God came to me in another form
He said "it's not black or white or the norm"
He looked at me and took my hand
He said "come with me to the Promised Land"
I saw the children fly out of the Heavens
wings spread wide like a vast blue tide
He rose above me
leaving me to stand
on my own two feet
but I'm just a man
my legs grow weak
my soul grows weary
but visions are then revealed through the haze
with His love I see clearly
I remember those days
of anguish and pain
drowning my spirit
like a monsoon rain
my cries washed away
no voice escaped
no one heard
no one admitted their mistake
but He was there
He witnessed it all
He was my believer
and He answered my call


P.S. My dear friends,
just as you believe in Michael, he too believes in you
take these words to heart
for they are sincere and true.

beLIEve that!
heart 2 heart.......
Promise.

Do, yep, I agree with you! You can fight it, argue with it, deny it OR go with it!  I argued with God back in those early weeks in August or so, and finally yielded, and said to God, okay, I believe he's the one we're waiting for--save the planet--Michael standing on the earth in the last days, Michael fighting the Dragon, and all that jazz, mumbo-jumbo whatever way you want to describe it. JMO

Wishingstar and curls, I absolutely love everything RA, like Johnny English 1 & 2, Mr. Bean, and assorted skits.
So Wish, you're into cars? What do you own or drive, if I may ask?

[pikachu]

"Sometimes your life might be in haze.
Any savior path be out of gaze.
Devilish mood might haunt you.
How to defend,you don't have clue.
Every step you take becomes a chaos.
Every trial of improvement becomes a pause.
The fire in you to retaliate ceases,
And finally your inner soul freezes.
You can't be gay and your heart can't sing.
But just remember one thing-

When everything ends,
A new life begins.
When an egg breaks,
A chicken awakes."

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**mj** @ Larry King's blog, October 17th, 2009 4:41 am ET

[MissG]

OMG, lol. You guys DO know that the name 'Bob' was made up by me right?  :icon_lol:

 :icon_lol: I did not know. There is a Bob, who is a medium, on youtube anyway.

[MissG]

Same poem was written 13 September 2009 on this blog

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"Sometimes your life might be in haze.
Any savior path be out of gaze.
Devilish mood might haunt you.
How to defend,you don't have clue.
Every step you take becomes a chaos.
Every trial of improvement becomes a pause.
The fire in you to retaliate ceases,
And finally your inner soul freezes.
You can't be gay and your heart can't sing.
But just remember one thing-

When everything ends,
A new life begins.
When an egg breaks,
A chicken awakes."

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**mj** @ Larry King's blog, October 17th, 2009 4:41 am ET

[~Souza~]

Same poem was written 13 September 2009 on this blog

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"Sometimes your life might be in haze.
Any savior path be out of gaze.
Devilish mood might haunt you.
How to defend,you don't have clue.
Every step you take becomes a chaos.
Every trial of improvement becomes a pause.
The fire in you to retaliate ceases,
And finally your inner soul freezes.
You can't be gay and your heart can't sing.
But just remember one thing-

When everything ends,
A new life begins.
When an egg breaks,
A chicken awakes."

.............................
**mj** @ Larry King's blog, October 17th, 2009 4:41 am ET

I don't think MJ is the type for plagiarism. :icon_lol: