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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 16, 2012, 11:50:51 PM
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thru personal relationship?
happened on LKL blog pretty fast.
here it happens thru human nature.

just because some think they are on the right track doesn't mean they are.

Grace - I've felt like this many, many times.  lolol/
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 16, 2012, 11:55:19 PM
@Sarah31...I read the first line of your last post and got the 'bad energy vibes' I inevitably get every time you post anything.  So...I'm gonna exercise my 'free will' and disregard the rest of your post cause WHY would I choose to have 'negative' energy seep in when I can also choose to keep my own LIGHT going???  I'd have to be crazy to choose the former...and that, I can guarantee you...I am not.

You asked a question based on my post and I gave you a valid answer.  If you don't like it, that's ok.  I DO like it and I'M the one who has to live with it...and I'm living with it and my FAITH in Mike just beautifully...the light is shining brighter than ever.  You are just not strong enough to even huff on it.

Going forward...I will no longer be reading your posts (I'm loving this 'free will' thing  ::P)...cause you have repeatedly failed to bring anything '_ew' to the table nor any 'good energy'.  Please feel free to exercise your 'free will' to disregard my posts as well.  If not, it will be a one-way convo.

@WishingStar...


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With L.O.V.E. always.
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The beauty of Michael Jackson is found in his heart and soul...his enormous talent is a bonus and what a bonus it is.

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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 12:03:46 AM
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3) IF you have faith in MIKE, then you've got to KNOW that there is NO WAY he'd allow 'imposters' to mess around with his 'fans', when all the while 'they' have some underlying agenda that has absolutely nothing to do with him.

And how exactly would he prevent some bored-out-of-his-mind kid living in his parent's basement or whoever, just some anonymous person on the net, from playing "insider"? From implying this person is him?

You do know that also before June 25, 2009 (and after), there were tons of fake Michael's running around on the net playing women, talking to them in private for months and months, even talking with them on the phone ... Michael couldn't stop that and he also never said anything about that anywhere, not in any interview, etc.

You are (willingly?) ignoring clues that TS and Front have both used to validate themselves (separately) and then LATER Ts validating Front and vice versa.  If you really wanted to know those clues, you would look back at those threads (no pun intended  :lol: ).  If you don't look, it implies you have other motives here besides concern for us.   smiley_spider

There have been clues regarding TS's authenticity and there have been clues with Front's authenticity.  They both go back to the Jackson family (authentic social media, etc).  So if you think TS and Front are playing with us, you imply that the Jacksons are playing with us too.

No one is telling you to doubt and be cautious: on the contrary. 

Hypothetical: IF Mike is either TS and/or Front and he returns and says those were his usernames, how will you feel?  Just wondering.  Remember the Sweet Home Alabama story?

PS with love  bearhug

It's nice to see peaceful communicating going on ;)

Personally, I've said that I am not 100% sure either way but I am keeping an open mind. Even going back and reading over and over again I'm not sure. The only thing I believe is that BACK was an insider. Everything else could be a good spinoff. Yes, there are some convincing posts that took me 10 steps forward but there were clearly posts that took me back to square one. It's okay though because in the end I will have solid reasons for my beliefs.

I know the question may not be meant for me but if Michael or one of the Jacksons comes and says that they were TS or Front it won't make me react any differently because I have done nothing to feel guilty about. I will readily admit that they had me fooled and will laugh at the egg on my face. Truly, I do hope that is what happens because that would be the best scenario that I can think of. The alternative not so much.

I'm piecing this all together in my mind and I appreciate those that bring these reminders to the forefront. We'll all get there together. Blessings to you.

bearhug

Voice, you have always seemed to have very deep genuine concern for the people on this board.  That is what really matters. 

Questioning someone behind a screenname is fine.  MJ would probably want you to.  :)

Love and blessings to you :)
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 12:23:07 AM
wow...some people said bad things to sarah and anewfan......
I guess it's not always all for love suspicious//
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 12:54:19 AM
question . does being an insider or someone in the know automatically mean they have michael or our best interest at heart? just asking
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 02:02:45 AM
So far I've kept out of the recent arguments, believing that troublemakers are usually just out for attention, and I try not to give them that satisfaction.

So before I join BeTheChange and stop reading your posts, Sarah31, can I, in the spirit of giving you the huge benefit of the doubt, just ask you if you are a native English speaker/writer?

I'm just wondering if maybe you have a lack of understanding of subtleties of the English language and are genuinely unable to detect the over-riding argumentative, accusatory tone of your posts.

Many of the points you raise are relevant and valid, but the way you present them comes over as deliberately provocative and is just plain irritating and tiresome.

As I have read, I have re-written/re-worded, in my head, several of your posts and in 'my format', I know they would have been welcomed and responded to. (Your last post, reply #412, is a typical example of this.)

Just something to consider if you actually want to be respected.
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 02:58:48 AM

I’m wondering if the snippets from Front could actually be from one of the 3 kids?  He doesn’t say in his posts that he specifically made any of them.  We don't know if Michael is with his kids for all, part or a bit of the time.
My son has made some pretty fun and interesting music on computer.

Hardly anybody responded to my post:
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Watch this video, particularly at 1:40. The transcript is below.
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The video above is very, very interesting.  It was sent to me by Cathy.  I had never heard this before, but this man is being interviewed who was working on recordings for another musician at one of the castles where Michael stayed and recorded.* At 0:30 he says, “I heard this from two guys that know nothing about what you just talked about (MK Ultra, mind control mentioned by the interviewer). 



He spoke about working with a music producer, and that Michael was living in Ireland, moving from Castle to Castle to evade the press/public.* At 1:52 he says, “and my friend, this music producer was with this pop star that he was producing music for and he noticed this kind of sequencer machine that allows you to, without having any musical training, to actually create rythyms and that kind of thing . . .”  He then goes on to say, “the engineer goes, oh that belongs to Michael Jackson.  He says “Michael Jackson was recording here? And he says ‘oh yeah he was here for months recording an album.


* At 2:14 the guest says, “Oh what was that like? And he says ‘oh it was interesting’.  His friend said ‘what did the record sound like’ and he said ‘eh, you wouldn’t believe it,it sounded like punk rock albums or something, and the lyrics’ he said, ‘were all about like ‘he was being framed, he was naming people in the music business who were all, like involved in like rituals’, and these guys knew absolutely nothing about this stuff.  And he said ‘ it was all crazy sh*t , couldn’t believe what I was hearing’.  And the master tape vanished and has not been heard of since.”


The guest said that the engineer and producer were not the type to make this stuff up, they were professionals, and he went on to describe that they told him that the music Michael was working on was not your typical Michael Jackson music.  It was aggressive, it was angry and he called it a “whistle-blower” album.Michael was naming names in his music?  Corey Feldman is going to be naming names?  Arrests in child porn rings are being arrested in various countries across the globe and the rituals – We no longer have the luxury of calling this a conspiracy “THEORY”.

Latoya’s Dutch T.V. Interview, Jermaine’s Arabia T.V. interview, Bryce Taylor’s book, Fritz Springmeier’s book, Michael’s song lyrics and the Bible all meet in the middle.  It is a precision puzzle that is fitting perfectly into place.

 



Last Edit: January 17, 2012, 03:03:37 AM by MJonmind
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 03:22:07 AM
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So far I've kept out of the recent arguments, believing that troublemakers are usually just out for attention, and I try not to give them that satisfaction.

I have read all the pages and pages of posts here and on that other TS/TIAI thread and agree with this curls ......no point fueling their manipulative obsession with causing sh*t.

Just like when a 2 year old is having a tanty........ignore it.
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 03:26:29 AM
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I’m wondering if the snippets from Front could actually be from one of the 3 kids?  He doesn’t say in his posts that he specifically made any of them.  We don't know if Michael is with his kids for all, part or a bit of the time.
My son has made some pretty fun and interesting music on computer.

Hardly anybody responded to my post:
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Watch this video, particularly at 1:40. The transcript is below.
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The video above is very, very interesting.  It was sent to me by Cathy.  I had never heard this before, but this man is being interviewed who was working on recordings for another musician at one of the castles where Michael stayed and recorded.* At 0:30 he says, “I heard this from two guys that know nothing about what you just talked about (MK Ultra, mind control mentioned by the interviewer). 



He spoke about working with a music producer, and that Michael was living in Ireland, moving from Castle to Castle to evade the press/public.* At 1:52 he says, “and my friend, this music producer was with this pop star that he was producing music for and he noticed this kind of sequencer machine that allows you to, without having any musical training, to actually create rythyms and that kind of thing . . .”  He then goes on to say, “the engineer goes, oh that belongs to Michael Jackson.  He says “Michael Jackson was recording here? And he says ‘oh yeah he was here for months recording an album.


* At 2:14 the guest says, “Oh what was that like? And he says ‘oh it was interesting’.  His friend said ‘what did the record sound like’ and he said ‘eh, you wouldn’t believe it,it sounded like punk rock albums or something, and the lyrics’ he said, ‘were all about like ‘he was being framed, he was naming people in the music business who were all, like involved in like rituals’, and these guys knew absolutely nothing about this stuff.  And he said ‘ it was all crazy sh*t , couldn’t believe what I was hearing’.  And the master tape vanished and has not been heard of since.”


The guest said that the engineer and producer were not the type to make this stuff up, they were professionals, and he went on to describe that they told him that the music Michael was working on was not your typical Michael Jackson music.  It was aggressive, it was angry and he called it a “whistle-blower” album.Michael was naming names in his music?  Corey Feldman is going to be naming names?  Arrests in child porn rings are being arrested in various countries across the globe and the rituals – We no longer have the luxury of calling this a conspiracy “THEORY”.

Latoya’s Dutch T.V. Interview, Jermaine’s Arabia T.V. interview, Bryce Taylor’s book, Fritz Springmeier’s book, Michael’s song lyrics and the Bible all meet in the middle.  It is a precision puzzle that is fitting perfectly into place.

I pondered this hypothetical on the original BACK thread too MJonmind before it was locked and was attacked by some of the recent sh*t stirrers.
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 03:33:30 AM
You mean about the kids maybe making the music?
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 03:40:41 AM
Sorry MJonmind - Yep....I meant to quote only that bit......about the kids possibly making the snippets.
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 05:22:27 AM
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And systematic, boarderline obsessive passive aggressive bullying and thread hijacking tactics aren't necessary either. I called her a bitch because she was acting like one. I stand by it.

Everyone please get back on topic.


also a newfan, bec called her a B**** after sarah first acted like a B**** to me in response to a civil post to her from me. go back and read.

my post said that we all respect and understand you have an opintion abt TS of Front which you are entitiled to, but out of respect of other members who are looking at this thread for Front updates, can you please post the Front / TS negativity in a more appropriate thread where you can discuss it with others who share your opinion.

three weeks later and hundreds of catty posts back and forth, a new thread is finally opened to discuss the authenticity of TS / Front for the doubters.

could have done this 3 weeks ago. but no, that isnt what they wanted. the antagonists simply wanted to fight and stir up crap. thats the REASON they were hanging out in a thread they dont even believe in. purely to cause trouble!

their motive of causing trouble was as clear as day. much like a troll.

so if anyone addresses them negatively, unfortunately they brought that 'lack of respect' upon themseleves.

dont believe me? go to the old thread and re-read how it started. and then started again. over and over.

i am so done with trouble makers here! can you tell. LOL  lolol/
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People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 06:27:10 AM
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 07:03:53 AM
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So far I've kept out of the recent arguments, believing that troublemakers are usually just out for attention, and I try not to give them that satisfaction.

I have read all the pages and pages of posts here and on that other TS/TIAI thread and agree with this curls ......no point fueling their manipulative obsession with causing sh*t.

Just like when a 2 year old is having a tanty........ignore it.

+1

Although I'm reading the forum everyday, I have not made any posts on this thread for a while because I know that this TS/Front discussion is not going to end at least till Michael comes back. There're thousands of things to discuss on this forum. You do not need to focus on TS/Front if you think that he is a manipulator. Do not allow him to manipulate you then, go and discuss other subjects. I also do not understand the urge of making other people believe what you believe. You can't do that. Whatever proof you show them, they will keep on believing what they want. So why need to discuss the issue? We've been discussing this for the past 2,5 years. What's the conclusion, what changed? Nothing. The solution is simple tho. If you think that TS/Front is a fake, then ignore his posts. You do not need to trust someone else in this hoax. You need to trust yourself, whatever you found to make you start believing and made you continue. Forget about others, forget about insiders. What do you know to make you believe that this is a hoax? Is it enough for you to stay here or not? If it's not, then leave the hoax behind. If you can not leave the forum, then do not blame anyone else for your obsession to the hoax. It is your choice and it is your responsibility to be here. If you like it stay, if you don't then leave. 
Last Edit: January 17, 2012, 07:07:38 AM by PureLove
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Re: Official back & Front thread
January 17, 2012, 07:27:37 AM
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And on the topic of Michael Jackson....Front said:
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If you're a religious person, have faith in God.
If you're not, then have faith in Michael.

Let's, for a second, leave God, TS, Front and Back OUT of the equation...cause when all is said and done, none of the 'fighting', 'arguments' and 'back-and-forth banter' has anything to do with FAITH in any of the above (that's just surface 'analysis').  At its core, however, it has everything to do with YOUR faith in Mike.

1) IF you believe Mike is alive, then you'd be really naive to think that he does not know about this forum and about what's happening, at any given time, in hoax-land.

2) IF he knows about this forum, then there's NO WAY he hasn't read, or at least heard of, TS and Front (I won't even get into whether or not he KNEW about Back). 

3) IF you have faith in MIKE, then you've got to KNOW that there is NO WAY he'd allow 'imposters' to mess around with his 'fans', when all the while 'they' have some underlying agenda that has absolutely nothing to do with him.

4) IF you don't KNOW that, then you DON'T have full faith in MJ....and he KNOWS that (see #1).

It's really that simple....and sad.

With L.O.V.E. always.

@BeTheChange Your 4 points are the best things i've read lately in the forum, so simple and well said!

Thank you for putting this out here, what nobody should ever forgot is to believe in Michael whatever happens, i mean if you already chose to be part of this amazing hoax.

I know it's not always that simple, but as for me, the most important thing i've learned during the past 2,5 years is to have faith and continue to believe what your heart says and keep being patient......simple things but hard to manage sometimes.....

 /bravo/ BTC : )
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