I said some things quit a few pages back on what I have learned from this community. Here is what I said:
QuoteThe beauty of human nature is the vast array of different opinions. It serves the purpose of keeping us grounded. It always will be this way. There will always be a opposite reaction to our own actions. We can choose to be offended by others strong opinions or we can take what others say into consideration and hold it up to our own opinions for comparisions and looking at the situation from another perspective.
I am not here to make anyone believe what I say or force anyone to see it the way I do. I have learned alot from this community as a whole. I had to learn how MJ's fans believe and interact. I have had to learn to have tolerance for others who are different than I am. I have learned how to not say somethings and I have never wavered from being me. That means I have always had a set of .... and I will always be that way. I respect those who haven't gotten there yet and that can not be forced on people who aren't built like that.
I have to give a little of background on me for this to make sense. I come from a background of street life (over 20 years), hustle, deception, entertainment, violence, anger, hatred toward my type of women (prostitutes).
Disclaimer: This is never about look at me when I speak on myself. It is only provided so when I do say things it may help people understand why I do it. I also do not point fingers of blame. I usually try not to call people out specifically unless it is necessary when in an exchange of conversation. I never do it to be mean spirited. With that said I want to express some of my observations after watchin' this forum of people interacting for the last 19 months (on a daily basis, I have taken maybe 4 days break from the hoax)
I understand bec and her passion (which she has openly admitted to being an angry atheist). I have never been an atheist but I surely know anger. Her cussing doesn't bother me because I am a cussing fool. When I first came on the board I cussed and I also made very judgemental comments toward what I saw. That was because I come from a world that was just like what I see here and I was shocked because I figured square normal good girls and boys didn't behave that way.
I still have some judgments but not in the sense of I am right, others are wrong. I will not and have not ever spoke on a behavior I am disliking without fully acknowledging to myself, I have had those flaws but I am working on changing. I have learned alot about how to try and be an example by doing rather than just speaking on what everyone else should do.
What I have learned is we all are human. Striving to be a better sense of ourselves. That doesn't mean to be fake or something that doesn't feel natural. When the change happens inside yourself it fits but your core self is still there. If you're a bad ass you still will be but you learn how to tame yourself out of respect for others. Not everyone will be at the same metamorphism stage and instead of acting like they should be where you are now, help gently. None of us came here in full knowledge of what we know now. Someone guided us and had patience to help us when we struggled. Pass it on.
I am glad Grace spoke up in defense of non English speakers. I also am very impressed by paula-c and her dedication to interact with us who do speak English. Sometimes her posts come across strange but that isn't her fault. I think she uses a translator and it will mess up her native language when translating into English. Sometimes her posts are perfectly understandable. She doesn't have to adjust her speaking to appease native English speakers, we need to adjust to understand her and others who aren't always perfect in translation.
They give us respect by trying to communicate with us in English, this goes for all non speaking English persons. Some non English speakers actually speak in a way that reminds me of internet speak/text/tweet talk.
I understand JT and I am glad we get a man's point of view. There are so many females here and we can be over the top. /pull hair/
I get Front/back and I have no problem with his way of defending himself. His comment was directed at someone who directed a lot of BS specifically at Front. We all have the right to respond when defending ourselves.
About that post by back. "Captain-save-a-ho" is lingo I know from my street world. It is said by pimps and hookers when speaking on someone who is foolish if they think they can come in and save someone who doesn't need saving or deserves the verbal beat down like back wrote. That was not an accusation to say back is a pimp or hooker but he does know that world. Ya know MJ has interacted with all kinds of people even real gangs. <Beat it.
MJonmind- I will just have to say I agree to disagree with your interpretation of how TS/back/Front interpret scripture. I see it different. Coming from no legalistic Christian background I began my journey in the new covenant. For me it is all spiritual but I recognize God's word as literal.
I have one final word about how MJ would respond to a female fan. Being that I come from a background of entertainment and my money came from pleasing people by telling them what they want to hear, I have an understanding of not all money is good money. Sometimes people finally don't give a fuck about always being polite, they say enough of being treated like shit and they say what is on their mind at the risk of losing a fan. For 40 years in public MJ was dedicated to helping others be happy. He gave his all to the world and the world shit on him. smiley_spider
I have a problem with always reading about how fake fans or non believers aren't worth shit because they aren't on our side. I see them as mattering in this and they aren't the only ones being exposed as fake. That doesn't include Front speaking his mind on fake fans.
QuoteTo ALL who are sharing your observations: There was a Front post some pages back containing these words....."There are times when a gentle guiding light is sufficient enough to illuminate the dark path ahead." <----please remember this throughout possible periods of silence and do NOT let it discourage you from proceeding with dissecting, examining, studying & posting your observations.
.....and please Keep Watchin' --- for a whisper can speak volumes in outlining the details.
Yes I totally get the meaning and don't worry bout me getting discouraged, I never have my whole life and never will. I would never have survived the life I lived if I was a punk. ;)
