Official back & Front thread

[looking4truth]

The link does work. Thanks for sharing. I hope someone can make a screencap of it. Unfortunately, I cannot at the moment.

[looking4truth]

I was able to look through the post and found one of the last one post by BACK on June 2 2010. The thread was about the kids signing belts for charity:



Also, Respect is earned you say?

Well Levin, Anka, McClain, Branca, Botek and many more must be "EARNING" it in droves.

Aren't they?

Experts only please!

Also, let the experts tell us or at least attempt to dissect the differences between the vast amount of people "EARNING" it?

Even this website! winkRespect doesn't come cheap, does it?

The qualifier for NOT earning it appears to be blood!

I found this part interesting. Are all of these people being paid to keep their mouths shut, to "respect" his "secret"? Or are all of these people getting paid from his "death" due to greed? Maybe it's a little bit of both. He even mentions the site MJJC with a wink as if to say the administrator is getting paid to keep quiet or getting paid due to his "death". I am not sure if MJJC has ads on their boards or anything that would bring profit so that may determine what he means. The wink is funny as well. I know EARNING meant getting paid. The color green was used to even highlight that point. The rest is still a question mark. His posts are always interesting to read though.

[foreverking]

It may be interesting to investigate who owns MJJC and who are the people protecting BACK. My husband is a private investigator and in security and he always says, if you want to find or uncover, start at a good source and go back or go forward and at the end or the beginning is your answer.

[ThaPr1meK1ng]

It may be interesting to investigate who owns MJJC and who are the people protecting BACK. My husband is a private investigator and in security and he always says, if you want to find or uncover, start at a good source and go back or go forward and at the end or the beginning is your answer.

Since your husband's a P.I. what does he think of Michael Jackson's "death" and the Conrad Murray case?

[foreverking]

It may be interesting to investigate who owns MJJC and who are the people protecting BACK. My husband is a private investigator and in security and he always says, if you want to find or uncover, start at a good source and go back or go forward and at the end or the beginning is your answer.

Since your husband's a P.I. what does he think of Michael Jackson's "death" and the Conrad Murray case?

I'll just say for various reasons he thinks MJ is alive. He has a keen eye and good instincts and feels something is not right.

[looking4truth]

It may be interesting to investigate who owns MJJC and who are the people protecting BACK. My husband is a private investigator and in security and he always says, if you want to find or uncover, start at a good source and go back or go forward and at the end or the beginning is your answer.

Since your husband's a P.I. what does he think of Michael Jackson's "death" and the Conrad Murray case?

I'll just say for various reasons he thinks MJ is alive. He has a keen eye and good instincts and feels something is not right.

It may be interesting to investigate who owns MJJC and who are the people protecting BACK. My husband is a private investigator and in security and he always says, if you want to find or uncover, start at a good source and go back or go forward and at the end or the beginning is your answer.

Since your husband's a P.I. what does he think of Michael Jackson's "death" and the Conrad Murray case?

I'll just say for various reasons he thinks MJ is alive. He has a keen eye and good instincts and feels something is not right.

Yeah something is definitely not right about this. I think the name of the owner is Gary Taylor based on what I pieced together but you may want to double check that.

I also did a Whois Lookup on the main site; <!-- w -->You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login<!-- w -->.

WHOIS information for  mjjcommunity.com  :

 

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view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.

The date also coincides with the copyright dates listed at the bottom of the site:  Copyright 2007 - 2010 MJJCommunity.com.

I am going to guess that the main website was created after the board because some of BACK's posts are from before then. And according to the copyright, I'm right with that assumption. Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Or perhaps, I'm not right all the way. The copyright is related to the board format, itself. Sorry I'm typing this as I'm researching.

vBulletin (vB) is a commercial Internet forum software produced by Jelsoft Enterprises and vBulletin Solutions, both subsidiaries of Internet Brands. It is written in PHP and uses a MySQL database server.

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However I did find something interesting about Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Jelsoft Enterprises Limited operates as a media company. It develops Web applications and offers vBulletin, a community forum solution. The company was founded in 2000 and is based in Pangbourne, United Kingdom. As of July 11, 2007, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited operates as a subsidiary of Internet Brands, Inc.

Jelsoft Enterprises Limited does not have any Key Executives recorded.

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And on Gary Taylor, I was right on the name. Here is an interview from April 2009:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNPm7wzC6m0[/youtube]

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I don't know if this helps at all but this is what I found so far. No real connections to MJ but perhaps, a start.

[looking4truth]

Any new posts or updates on BACK?

[foreverking]

Thanks looking4truth for the info on the owner.

I'm sure this GAZ is a great guy who supports MJ 100%, but he knows something is going on with BACK and I'm still not able to search on that site, so I have no idea of BACK has posted again.


Very interesting indeed.

[magic]

When I first started reading Back's posts,maybe August of last year,he was listed as a donator. This was a post from June 1 :

I've asserted to an infinite degree that these attacks and side-swipes leveled towards Katherine Jackson will soon manifest themselves and reap GREAT regrets. A certain subset of individuals are cleverly and agressively leading many to points of NO RETURN. The effort is concentrated;make no mistake about that. NO mistake!

Victorious in certain undertakings, they have been. However, tides shift. EXPECT that!~ Much is transpiring beneath the glaring lights to even this playing field. I've been silent, because success warrants it!

Katherine DESERVES respect! She has done more to earn it than anyone else in Michael's life. Perhaps suggestions to the contrary should be reconsidered.

If respect isn't given, like it appears in some corners to be up for debate. It will have to be demanded, taken or both.

TMZ has now become the 7th REMIX to the Bible around here. That sensationalist driven male version of Dianne Dimond who runs it gets more due dilligence here than Mother Katherine! How ridiculous is that?

Change is hopefully over the horizon!

Keep WATCHIN'.......
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[looking4truth]

When I first started reading Back's posts,maybe August of last year,he was listed as a donator. This was a post from June 1 :

I've asserted to an infinite degree that these attacks and side-swipes leveled towards Katherine Jackson will soon manifest themselves and reap GREAT regrets. A certain subset of individuals are cleverly and agressively leading many to points of NO RETURN. The effort is concentrated;make no mistake about that. NO mistake!

Victorious in certain undertakings, they have been. However, tides shift. EXPECT that!~ Much is transpiring beneath the glaring lights to even this playing field. I've been silent, because success warrants it!

Katherine DESERVES respect! She has done more to earn it than anyone else in Michael's life. Perhaps suggestions to the contrary should be reconsidered.

If respect isn't given, like it appears in some corners to be up for debate. It will have to be demanded, taken or both.

TMZ has now become the 7th REMIX to the Bible around here. That sensationalist driven male version of Dianne Dimond who runs it gets more due dilligence here than Mother Katherine! How ridiculous is that?

Change is hopefully over the horizon!

Keep WATCHIN'.......
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Wow, this seems to be a swipe at Harvey and possibly TS? This is really interesting. I wonder what will happen once this tide turns. It is funny that he said the "7th REMIX to the Bible". It makes me think of all the bible references in TS's redirects and posts. It also makes me wonder why 7 again? Is he trying to highlight that new 7 day theory again? I may be reading too much into it but that bolded text really has me thinking about things. This is why I cannot fully put 100% faith into anything. The main reason why I hold him so highly as far as informers are concern is due to the timing of his posts. I cannot totally dismiss him at all but again, like anything else, no one knows who is behind a screen name. This is really intriguing though. Thanks for posting!

[looking4truth]

Thanks looking4truth for the info on the owner.

I'm sure this GAZ is a great guy who supports MJ 100%, but he knows something is going on with BACK and I'm still not able to search on that site, so I have no idea of BACK has posted again.


Very interesting indeed.

No problem! Yeah I think you're onto to something here. Now we just have to be like Inspector Gadget and find out what's going on....or not.  :lol:

[magic]

There haven't been any new posts from Back. The search is working for me but more posts are gone. I remember a thread on mjjc that concerned posting questions for an interview with Frank D. where Back made two comments that I remember, one was that there were no coincidences (regarding the delay of the interview) and another that said it was because Marlon had said something wrong. I believe it had to do with an interview he gave  stating that MJ had complained of not feeling well the night before he died:
 

"Roland S. Martin: Marlon, how did you find out about Michael's death?

Marlon Jackson: I talked to Frank Dileo, Michael's manager. Frank told me that Michael last night was complaining about not feeling well.

Michael's doctor went over to see him, and Frank said, "Marlon, from last night to this morning, I don't know what happened."

When they got to him this morning, he wasn't breathing. They rushed him to the hospital and couldn't bring him around. That's what happened. They don't know what happened.

Martin: When was the last time you saw Michael?

Jackson: It was May 14 at a family gathering. I had just gotten back from Africa. Michael looked great. He was looking well. He was getting ready to go into rehearsals for his tour. I don't know what happened.

Martin: There were some reports he wasn't feeling well and was in a wheelchair.

Jackson: He wasn't in a wheelchair. He was walking around with his kids. When we saw him, he wasn't in a wheelchair. We all talked. He was doing great.

Martin: Was that the last time you spoke with him?

Jackson: May 14 was the last time I spoke with him. The last time I saw him.


Martin: Have you talked to any of your other family members about his death?

Jackson: I've been trying to get a hold of my mom. I talked to Jackie. I talked to Tito. They feel the same way. A piece of our heart -- a piece of us went with him. It was a shock to them, too. I talked to my brother Jackie and he said, "Marlon, is it true?" I said, "I'm calling them right now to see if it's true." That's when I called Frank Dileo and I couldn't get to my mom. I talked to him the first time and he was at the house and my mom was in the background crying, and she was just upset.

Martin: Was Michael still at the house?

Jackson: Michael had passed. Frank told me, "We lost him."

Martin: And you said a doctor saw him last night, but he didn't see a need to take him to the hospital?

Jackson: He didn't take him to the hospital. This morning he wasn't breathing and they rushed him to the hospital. He was going to be 51 in August. Gone too soon.

Martin: Marlon, it's amazing to look at the reaction from all over the world. People are at the hospital, at the Jackson family home in Gary, Indiana, at his star on the Walk of Fame.

Jackson: I never knew the effect the Jackson 5 had on people until I began traveling with a major broadcasting network, and people would say our songs were the reason for them getting married. Me and my brothers did what we did because we loved it.

That's the way we thought. I'm happy that we did get a chance to just bring happiness to everybody, and Michael took it to another level to bring people happiness. He cared about people a lot.

Michael was known all over the world, and that's why people care, and it's nice to see that people care. Not only did they grow up with my brother, but they grew up with the Jackson 5. He's definitely going to be missed. We are always going to remember him. We cannot forget him.

Martin: I hear the comparisons to Elvis Presley and people looking to him a generation later. I know it's very soon after the death of Michael, but should something like Graceland be established so the next generation is aware of Michael's impact?

Jackson: He's going to live on. He has left a legacy and it's going to be forever, and I really feel that in my heart. I want people to concentrate on those things that he did for people. He did a lot of positive things. He's going to live forever. I'm going to miss him. The memories, all the great things he has done, and my family is going to miss him. It's hard. It's really hard for us right now.


Martin: For the world he was the "King of Pop." But for you, he was your younger brother.

Jackson: And that's the way we saw him, as a younger brother. It's like when anyone else loses their family member. It hurts. It hurts right now. It really hurts."
 

Raffles van Exel did the interview and the thread was deleated.

[looking4truth]

Thanks magic for this. Sorry I'm so late but thanks. Any updates?

[shelby61]

Jackson: I've been trying to get a hold of my mom. I talked to Jackie. I talked to Tito. They feel the same way. A piece of our heart -- a piece of us went with him. It was a shock to them, too. I talked to my brother Jackie and he said, "Marlon, is it true?" I said, "I'm calling them right now to see if it's true." That's when I called Frank Dileo and I couldn't get to my mom. I talked to him the first time and he was at the house and my mom was in the background crying, and she was just upset.

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Does this make any sense to you guys... He couldn't get to his mom, but yet she was in the background crying and had to talk to Frank instead?  Also, Marlon says Frank was at the house, which house was he referring to?  Was Frank at the Encino compound with his mother when Marlon found out?  I thought Frank was at the hospital with his mother and the kids and he had to tell the kids??  Can any of you figure this out?

[magic]

Here is the post by Back concerning Marlon:

Today, 07:16 PM #120
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Re: Exclusive with Frank Thread *UPDATE POST 111*

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One must understand that delaying is a tactic,not a reason. Delay was at play before Mr. Van Excel entered this picture.Consideration of obvious missteps (i.e. Marlon Jackson) could cause a ricochet effect. So their obvious caution has been advised. The "tales" must match or else the winks and the nods risk exposure.

Keep WATCHIN'.......