10/25/09
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Furthermore, this thread title is an outrageous insult.
It appears motivated in part by a sick fetish.
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11/5/09
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Au contraire.....
This is NOT...a case of "guilt-tripping". It is a case of dispicable innuendo being camoflauged with "concerns" over "perceived" wishes of Michael Jackson.
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11/5/09
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Au contraire.....
This is NOT...a case of "guilt-tripping". It is a case of dispicable innuendo being camoflauged with "concerns" over "perceived" wishes of Michael Jackson. Mother Katherine IS an indisputable Trustee for one reason---Brother Michael trusted her. The veiled slights towards Ms. Jackson have been focused squarely on monetary gain by either family members or perimeter sharks. And in these reprehensible escapades, there have been too numerous to mention occassions where assumptions about "when she passes" have been cast. Unacceptable---sure! Guilt tripping---absolutely not. I shall repeat myself to help anyone not yet in the mindset of understanding the breadth of some of this propaganda being leveled against this family, especially Mother Katherine, to open your heart and try imagining her burden. Multiply your hurt as a fan by an indeterminate factor. After you do so, see if you are content with continuing this campaign of damn near blasphemy, when you don't know what's NOT known. If you can---your heart is cold.
Have you ever heard that saying " Mother knows BEST"?
It was coined for a reason, for they are----> Words to live by!
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11/5/09
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Let me suggest that you not profess to "know" what it is I do or don't know. Clear?
The points itterated in my former post must have been illegible or hard to comprehend for they are totally ignored in the above response. Deflection is the word of the moment.this tactic of deflecting and drubbing up the subject of "responsibility" does nothing towards the necessary goal of rectifying this bolierplate issue. You see, if the focus is squarely placed on the matter of responsibility, the first thing that needs to happen is 100% refutation throughout this board of this classless defamatory campaiign against this FAMILY. That would be the responsible thing.
But, I digress. My intention is to do whatever possible to end this "stealth" campaign designed to confuse legitimate fans into participating in meritless attacks, especially leveled towards Ms. Katherine Jackson.
The issue/discussion of responsibility--regarding how Michael was raised-has no bearing on this matter. That's a whole other topic.
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11/5/09
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Originally Posted by vncwilliam
are you suggesting that i am mounting a stealth campaign against the family? because, if you are..
you are professing to know what is in my mind. and you don't. CLEAR?
you have no right to determine who is a legit fan. you don't know.
i have nothing to do with any attacks occuring against MJ's family.
i am talking about one thing, and one thing only. the responsibility, and respectability of a will. that is all. if you are going to lash out with accusations...quote the fans that you are referring to, so they can have an opportunity to defend themelves.
Don't you get it!
Through all the "side points" you continue to merge with this very very problematic issue, neither one adresses my point of contention. Which is on this TOPIC. Furthermore---I respect this board and therefore the rules. I don't need to "call anyone out". They know very well who they are. Can't you see the attempts at defense right before you. The repetition of their drivel is enough to cut an album full of nonsensical noise. You see, pointing them out is needless. Everyone here can read. Scroll back up the screen. It's effortless. And if I may, there is NO defense for their juvenile actions. So that point is moot. But I shall continue until the seige is no more.
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11/5/09
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I passionately urge someone with the rank/file authority to end these tabloid inspired, scurrilous attacks on Ms. Jackson. If not, unfortunately I can predict my future of being banned from this forum.I hastingly state here and now that the next time this instigating individual insults Mother Katherine, he/she will be afforded no more courtesy. This is beyond cold, cruel, ridiculous. Who the f888 does this character think they're toying with?
Games are for children. He/she is messing with blood.
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11/5/09
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you are the one making the accusations. why don't you have the courage to point out the remarks? and point out who is making them. because you give the impression you are accusing everybody here, otherwise. i have seen one statement against Randy Jackson, from somebody. at least, have the courage to quote the post, and point that out. because you and i agree on that. i don't know what Randy is doing..i don't know what any family member is really doing. all i see, is that a will is written. and that is to be respected. but if you are going to keep posting, it should have a purpose...and it demands that you provide an example. or else it will look like you are accusing people, unwarrantingly, the way you don't want to be accused, unwarrantingly.
Question #1: Have you or have you not read this thread.
qUESTION #2: Again, see question 1.
The point of my post was to show you that I actually READ your post and responded in kind. Can I be afforded the same "luxury"? Rules? <----Did you get that point?Deflections and distractions are of no concern. Also, courage has nothing to do with this, just as insinuated about the subject matter of responsibility. When are the pieces going to fall into place? MY INTENTION & PURPOSE is to put an end to the attacks, especially against Ms. Jackson. Nothing more needs to be debated.
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11/5/09
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It's amusing how wannabe Private I's fall out of the sky demanding to know sh%t when they CLAIM they already know it. Then they commense to whining and piping the same distorted fairytales and otherwise boobtube lipservice from a few of the cast of many irrelevant characters lusting for attention. It's the subject of their infactuation it seems. So much so that they feel important enough to be on a need to know basis. Well, know this---it's very bad protocol to attack a man's mother. And even more egregious to do it intentionally and repeatedly without concern or care. Everything is dye-casted in innuendo. No ifs ands or buts about it. As long as thine eyes have read it, it must be so.
Well, here's the deal:
The questions are irrelevant!
The characters are irrelevant!
And so too is the Propagandist!
What is relevant is the immense potential for blowback. And i'm not going down alone.
11/6/09
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Calm thy nerves.......
Arnie IS on the de-Klein
He's desperate and scared sh*tless
Because he knows it's just a matter of tImE.......
Tables are meant to be turned!
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11/11/09
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Debbie threats made the family back off , katherine new lawyer wanted to fight originally and said they have enough evidence against the executors.
I'll say thank you Debbie for yet again stepping to help MJ and his kids .
they figured out that as long as the probate is taking place katherine is gonna only recieve allowance , and since they know the blackmailing tactics did not work with Branca and Randy would have never been appointed as an executor they want to end the probate now and start collecting the 40% of the profits ( not gonna happen at all)before something bad happens to katherine and the siblings end up with nothing .
basically they are forced to do that , again thank you DEBBIE .
It would be very very wise to consider restraint in this demonstrably ignorant proclamation that appears callously intentional and obviously routine in execution. I have asked, nicely, in no less than 5 instances. Now, I'm urging---because unless this issue needs rectifying beyond the realms of the internet...strike that....let's just say anyone will show valor in defense of their mother. Even a COWARD who constantly lambasts the mother of another.
SHAME.....
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11/11/09
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Aknowledgement of the obvious: Oxman is a melodramatic azzclown with a "foot in the mouth" diseased character trait.
His "dispicable" insults are to be EXPECTED, because it's a part of his schict.
But, do I detect a little bit of hypocrisy here---a place where such insults are NOT EXPECTED?
For days, certain individuals have had an unchecked field day lambasting Ms. Katherine Jackson. Then poof! When a certain issue pertaining to money appears to suit those same person's fancy, Mother Jackson once again becomes a shining beacon of light.
Well, it is my opinion that some self reflection is necessary for that man or woman staring back in the mirror. If Michael was here, he would be DEVASTATED at both the occurrence and allowance of these SELF-SERVING attempts at character assassination levelled at his Mother, Friend and Confidant. I Am too devastated!
For some who continue to weave a particular storyline set on extracting Michael from any affiliation with his bloodline by categorizing them as leeches concerned with money; Ask yourself, "what is it you've been blathering about when it comes to this Family matter"? Money , am I right?
There also seems to be elevated propaganda in defense of Debra Rowe, thrusting her to damn near Saint status. But I guess some forgot about HiStory? A few self servingly motivated minutes on the witness stand does not remove one from other nefarious actions--against Michael. It seems one of the most obsessed media whore critics against Michael is now one of her boosom buddies. Or was this ALWAYS the case? Lucky for her she played her cards right and didn't "face her own music" from the stack of "Binders" chronicling HerStory. It's fascinating to watch some magnify her importance---because of DNA--then downplay family members of Michael Jackson--because of DNA. And I'm not talking Joseph Jackson.
Do you kind of see the line of hypocrisy? It appears to be trending--
Perhaps a cause to check twitter--but better to check yourself.
Katherine Jackson should never be insulted here. Never! And when it does happen, it should be checked. I'm perplexed as to the level of toleration--ESPECIALLY here. Perhaps today my "cries" will be finally heard!
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11/18/09
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As one who embodies "vision" past 20/20, occurrences of the future are often "experienced". But many times this "experience" comes in the form of internal jolts, indicative of something of great significance. Séance hoaxes are not applicable.There are tIMEs when details are sparse, but abundant enough to "see" the grandness, just as it was in this magnetism towards the tHeOrY of sEVEN.
Exit Angel Gabriel----enter Angel Michael
Luke 1:36
"And in the sixth month the angel (Gabri)el was sent from God unto a city......
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph..."
And in the sixth month the angel (Micha)el was “statused” by God in a city...(of Angels)
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph.
On 6-25-09, tIME took a literal backseat to the mOMENt. I could always "see" a Silhouette on a Grand-stage, once again taking over the World. Perhaps also parallel in holding to our proclamation that this was NOT a "comeback", but a take-over. This was it. And in a thunderous sense,----- it was. It just didn't dawn on me that that Grand Stage would be in the Heavens; A visual Staple-d to the Center of our minds for all eternity.
Physically--no more, but with us in an eternal Angelic presence. We witnessed the beginning of this transfer on 7/7 of this historical year.
As History has shown, reflected through the books and logics of many faiths, Prophets do and have walked amongst us. They have sometimes been Angels in the temporary casts of both tIME and human flesh. And in their allotted tIME, their purposes have most often been message DeLIVErance.
In the separation of major tIME factions in our planetary HiStory, specifically Birth of Christ (BC) To nearly 2009 years post his physical exit (AD), there's only one other Worldly figure that has been bestowed the powers to reach EVERY corner of the globe. And that Heavenly Gift was the Incomparable Michael Jackson.
2+5, The days of Christ and Michael.
Although many other Great Worldly figures, ranging from Martin to Mother Teresa, have graced this Earth with soul driven purposes that have benefited humanity, there have ONLY been two who have been subjected to literal crucifixions; before, during and after their deaths. And even in the face of these crucifixions, they both maintained hearts filled with love, sensitivity and care for all man/woman-kind. They carried rare emotional connections to and concerns for every single poor and sick person on the planet; Especially the children. They were in-tune with the necessary nurturance that this magnificent creation we inhabit requires for survival. They both never stopped giving and wanting to give more! They even carried compassion and hope for those who were consumed with evil and sought to do them both harm. An EXTREME rarity!
Christ was the savior of lives once as a physical being
So too was Michael Jackson.
I’m sure there are “many” here on this very board who can attest to that. My word itself does not have to be taken as conclusive. The proof will be provided through acknowledgement.
Throughout the decades of the modern tIMEs we live, many Great figures have suffered untIMEly demises. Deep reflection of these occurrences will or should give you great pause. The easiest approach up until about 20 years ago was always by the bullet. What changed the trend? Well, along came awareness, suspicion, and non-acceptance of "stories" that carry potholes in logic. Thus, it demanded a necessity for more elaborate plans of execution that are now used as a means of thwarting the full truth. This process had to be in magnification ten fold in order to end the physical existence of the most famous person walking this Earth. Many OTHER attempts had failed, even though they left enormous wounds. You see, evil always goes for the jugular by attacking a person's greatest strength. Michael Jackson's greatest strength was pure love. The antagonist of such a principle is hate. So they used that pure love and coupled it with another of his strengths towards healing and caring for sick children to formulate perhaps the most wickedly contrived fiction in history. The goal was to create the most egregious of perceptions and marvel with pleasure and amusement at its historically noted difficulty to disprove. But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes. For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!
Though the hands of tIME still move incrementally, tick-tock, tick-tock, it is quickly running thin on the 2 decade long, elaborate planning that culminated in this execution. I can now understand that "vision" of 6/25/06 relapse", with CLARITY. This is no conspiracy theory! However, believe as you may. But believing and knowing--- are two different things.
Arms, wrist and feet. Bludgeoned through the veins.
Arms, wrist and feet, Poisoned through the veins.
Two different Kings, with different Reigns.
And The End result shall be the same.
JUSTICE........For it is already written!
And shall be illUMINATED! (E. Chandler— I hope you left proper notice repenting---the inferno awaits and you shall become a believer in what you didn’t before. HELL is your EQUALIZER. You’ve earned it!
“With all the ingredients—is it Simmering---can you smell it—how long before the “pie” is done.” – As many have realized, IT would have been greatness to an infinite degree.
Mr. Jackson--- you know I still have your back--- until my end.
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11/19/09
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11/21/09
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Confusion from issues of perplexity often leads to pointless derision.......
It is always wise to use time prudently.
Never expend it on confusion.......
Try harder to understand.
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1/3/10
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Justice WILL be served on the
perpetrators of this contrived circumstance.
Michael Jackson very much deserves it.......and shall receive!
It doesn't matter the time interval or smoke-screened projections and barriers erected to usurp this occurrence.
Etch it to stone.......They will face accountability!
Perhaps the FEDs will feel so inclined to lend the LAPD another one of its "hands" in a matter that actually warrants it.
perhaps.......
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5/30/10
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THEY always make a mistake. ALWAYS!
Deception "WILL" run its course and as elements of both "conspiracy" and reality start to merge, many brains will do somersaults.
This me-me-me ness is stale and "played". Satans Claws need clipping. Soon to be asserted!
OPEN your eyes &
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5/30/10
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I've asserted to an infinite degree that these attacks and side-swipes leveled towards Katherine Jackson will soon manifest themselves and reap GREAT regrets. A certain subset of individuals are cleverly and agressively leading many to points of NO RETURN. The effort is concentrated;make no mistake about that. NO mistake!
Victorious in certain undertakings, they have been. However, tides shift. EXPECT that!~ Much is transpiring beneath the glaring lights to even this playing field. I've been silent, because success warrants it!
Katherine DESERVES respect! She has done more to earn it than anyone else in Michael's life. Perhaps suggestions to the contrary should be reconsidered.
If respect isn't given, like it appears in some corners to be up for debate. It will have to be demanded, taken or both.
TMZ has now become the 7th REMIX to the Bible around here. That sensationalist driven male version of Dianne Dimond who runs it gets more due dilligence here than Mother Katherine! How ridiculous is that?
Change is hopefully over the horizon!
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5/30/10
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WAKE-UP!
Realize that works of FICTION have helped reshape perception of many historical FACTS. It doesn't take much effort to draw reasonable conclusions about obvious "slight of hands".
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6/2/10
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Sometimes when bands ASSume they are in unisome, at least one member will be attentive enough to realize they are actually offbeat. It is also a bitter pill to swallow when that "imperfection" is pointed out.
For those that consider themselves sanctioned experts regarding the lives of a very large and famous FAMILY, perhaps your credentials need thorough auditing in order to find out just what went wrong. To put it nicely, there's ignorance to reality, transfixion on sensationalism and much "assuming" of oneself into circles.
With the clapping being a little offkey, could an expert please tell me if Michael APPROVED of "THIS IS IT" the motion picture? That is since this narrative continues to surface and the band knows what he REALLY wanted.
Also, Respect is earned you say?
Well Levin, Anka, McClain, Branca, Botek and many more must be "EARNING" it in droves.
Aren't they?
Experts only please!
Also, let the experts tell us or at least attempt to dissect the differences between the vast amount of people "EARNING" it?
Even this website! wink
Respect doesn't come cheap, does it?
The qualifier for NOT earning it appears to be blood!
Threats are of no cosequence in this day and age; at least that's what many believe.
But I promise, not only Mr. Taylor, but to those who sincerely believe in the ORIGINAL intent of this forum, if Katherine Jackson is not given her due respect, we are prepared to tranfer part of the burden we have to bear from these relentless insults right where it belongs. Sadly, most of the disdain originates from an UNLIKELY place! The more I think about it, the greater my agony elevates because I never though it would devolve to such a circumstance. The leadership could help us, but many appear to subliminally support it. Michael wouldn't WANT this I assure you. Me-me-me ness will lead some to the edge before they open their eyes.
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6/2/10
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Sanctamonious son of a ....Band.....
And the beat goes on!
Uncoordinated and offkey---as expected.
My points stand, regardless of attempted deflections using miscellaeneous quotes.
The lol's are childish--and irrelevant.
So are clapping emoticons.
Reread and enlighten oneself. Attempts at engaging will lead you astray!
Trust!
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