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wishingstar

Quote from: Do on May 07, 2012, 01:35:50 PM

Quote from: wishingstar on May 07, 2012, 01:23:57 PM

I do have one question about this line:

God came to me in another form
He said "it's not black or white or the norm"

What is "the norm"
I know it's usually short for normal.  However, used like this, it makes no sense...
it's not black or white or the normal............?

Hi Wishingstar,
I read it like: It differs from all the normal standards. Or isn't this what you meant?
Hey Do.....
Yeah, I guess that's what it's saying....it's just off to me for some reason....
God came to me in another form...it's not black or white or the norm....
OK, the normal standard being what?  Ugg....I need coffee, sorry if I am being stupid here, LOL......
Thanks for the response Do......I think you are right..normal standards of something.
It's just odd to me......which is totally normal, LOL!
Have a most beautiful day!

Blessings Always


wishingstar

Quote from: SimPattyK on May 07, 2012, 01:52:11 PM

Jesus!! Wishy !! you drive me crazy !!  :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Sorry......I don't mean to  :-\

mindseye

May 07, 2012, 02:37:08 PM #9617 Last Edit: May 07, 2012, 04:07:32 PM by mindseye
Quote from: ~Souza~ on May 07, 2012, 09:58:27 AM

@Souza has made the 7777th post .... make a wish! :icon_e_biggrin:

I think this poem is about overcoming trials and tribulations through love and faith, then came hope and clarity.

'Money...Lie for it Spy for it Kill for it Die for it They'd kill for the money Do or dare'

Do

Quote from: Sarahli on May 07, 2012, 02:19:44 PM

Quote from: Do on May 07, 2012, 02:08:22 PM

Quote from: Sarahli on May 07, 2012, 01:54:40 PM

@ Do, nice post  :)

Quote

In your poem: "but visions are then revealed through the haze"

When I read this, I immediately thought of the vision Murray had. I don't know why, but it after watching that documentary, I always felt Murray was telling a part of Michaels story, one that he maybe didn't want to tell himself.

Can you please remind me what was Murray's vision? I forgot.  :icon_mrgreen:
Sarahli, I will watch the documentary right now and will write down exactly what Murray was saying, OK? Could take a few moments  :icon_e_biggrin:
Oh thanks very nice of you.  :icon_e_smile:
Hi Sarahli, I'm back (pfew!)

This is the excerpt:

Quote

After being widely blamed for Jacksons death,
Murray had a spiritual revelation

"The darkest moment occured within the first weeks
commencing with the passing of Michael
On july 15 2009, at three o clock a.m., things changed
The holy spirit came to me...
I could feel the warmth, I could see his face...
I could see his garment as he came down and touched me...
He lifted me out of.....that hole of darkness....
He brought me to the light....
He saved me, he protected me.....
I am protected and he will put me and keep me safely
In the secret chambers of his Tabernakel
Thank you father, thank you, thank you...
I love you Lord."

For some reason, I can't relate this to Murray, but to Michael....that would make sence to me.
And there is much more in the documentary that made me feel like...is this Michael speaking, or Murray?

"Three passions, simple but overwhelmingly strong, have governed my life: the longing for love, the search for knowledge, and unbearable pity for the suffering of mankind."
Bertrand Russel

diggyon

Quote from: wishingstar on May 07, 2012, 02:26:19 PM

Quote from: Do on May 07, 2012, 01:35:50 PM

Quote from: wishingstar on May 07, 2012, 01:23:57 PM

I do have one question about this line:

God came to me in another form
He said "it's not black or white or the norm"

What is "the norm"
I know it's usually short for normal.  However, used like this, it makes no sense...
it's not black or white or the normal............?

Hi Wishingstar,
I read it like: It differs from all the normal standards. Or isn't this what you meant?
Hey Do.....
Yeah, I guess that's what it's saying....it's just off to me for some reason....
God came to me in another form...it's not black or white or the norm....
OK, the normal standard being what?  Ugg....I need coffee, sorry if I am being stupid here, LOL......
Thanks for the response Do......I think you are right..normal standards of something.
It's just odd to me......which is totally normal, LOL!
Have a most beautiful day!

Blessings Always

Well, may be the word "norm" is used for riming purposes! Couldn't think of anything else!
Together we are strong

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abraham Lincoln

Thank you Michael for letting me discover the truth!

I lost the bet, Sarahli won it! ! ! loool


RedPennylocks

Quote from: Front on May 06, 2012, 08:40:34 PM

God came to me in another form
He said "it's not black or white or the norm"
He looked at me and took my hand
He said "come with me to the Promised Land"
I saw the children fly out of the Heavens
wings spread wide like a vast blue tide
He rose above me
leaving me to stand
on my own two feet
but I'm just a man
my legs grow weak
my soul grows weary
but visions are then revealed through the haze
with His love I see clearly
I remember those days
of anguish and pain
drowning my spirit
like a monsoon rain
my cries washed away
no voice escaped
no one heard
no one admitted their mistake
but He was there
He witnessed it all
He was my believer
and He answered my call

P.S. My dear friends,
just as you believe in Michael, he too believes in you
take these words to heart
for they are sincere and true.

beLIEve that!
heart 2 heart.......
Promise.

Such beautiful heartfelt words!  :bearhug: Thanks so much Front.


An amazing person comes in many packages. If you only see with your eyes and not with your heart you will miss a lot of amazing people-do you agree?-Tito Jackson

Do

Quote from: wishingstar on May 07, 2012, 02:26:19 PM

Quote from: Do on May 07, 2012, 01:35:50 PM

Quote from: wishingstar on May 07, 2012, 01:23:57 PM

I do have one question about this line:

God came to me in another form
He said "it's not black or white or the norm"

What is "the norm"
I know it's usually short for normal.  However, used like this, it makes no sense...
it's not black or white or the normal............?

Hi Wishingstar,
I read it like: It differs from all the normal standards. Or isn't this what you meant?
Hey Do.....
Yeah, I guess that's what it's saying....it's just off to me for some reason....
God came to me in another form...it's not black or white or the norm....
OK, the normal standard being what?  Ugg....I need coffee, sorry if I am being stupid here, LOL......
Thanks for the response Do......I think you are right..normal standards of something.
It's just odd to me......which is totally normal, LOL!
Have a most beautiful day!

Blessings Always

Hi Wish, I'm always struggling with Front's cryptic wording, for a non-native English speaker, I always feel I'm missing the point  :icon_redface: :icon_lol:
NO, you're not being stupid here, look at it this way: maybe Front had an 'off-day' with the wording of this sentence!!

"Three passions, simple but overwhelmingly strong, have governed my life: the longing for love, the search for knowledge, and unbearable pity for the suffering of mankind."
Bertrand Russel

mindseye

"it's not black or white or the norm" ... I took this as meaning beyond everyday thinking, transparent, like a miracle or spirit, powers beyond.

'Money...Lie for it Spy for it Kill for it Die for it They'd kill for the money Do or dare'

PureLove

Quote from: Front on May 06, 2012, 08:40:34 PM

God came to me in another form
He said "it's not black or white or the norm"
He looked at me and took my hand
He said "come with me to the Promised Land"
I saw the children fly out of the Heavens
wings spread wide like a vast blue tide
He rose above me
leaving me to stand
on my own two feet
but I'm just a man
my legs grow weak
my soul grows weary
but visions are then revealed through the haze
with His love I see clearly
I remember those days
of anguish and pain
drowning my spirit
like a monsoon rain
my cries washed away
no voice escaped
no one heard
no one admitted their mistake
but He was there
He witnessed it all
He was my believer
and He answered my call

P.S. My dear friends,
just as you believe in Michael, he too believes in you
take these words to heart
for they are sincere and true.

beLIEve that!
heart 2 heart.......
Promise.

Thank you Front.  :bearhug:


SimPattyK

Quote from: wishingstar on May 07, 2012, 02:28:35 PM

Quote from: SimPattyK on May 07, 2012, 01:52:11 PM

Jesus!! Wishy !! you drive me crazy !!  :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Sorry......I don't mean to  :-\

I think I start getting "accustomed" !!

Whatever that means!!

Love YOU !!


Tink

Quote from: ~Souza~ on May 07, 2012, 09:58:27 AM

That's a CR, that you scan with your smartphone for coupons.
Black & Proud! I'm like the Oracle/Batgirl, who helps Batman in the comic books. I believe in "Comic Book justice."


diggyon

Sorry guys, English is not my native language! There is something I didn't understand in that poem. Is it that we have to promise Michael to believe that he believes in us or is it that he is promising us something? Sorry, I didn't understand that part! I need some help, please

Together we are strong

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abraham Lincoln

Thank you Michael for letting me discover the truth!

I lost the bet, Sarahli won it! ! ! loool


Sarahli

@ Do, thank you very much! Yes I remember now! I_deed made me think of something that could have happened to Michael as well.

We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

lilwendy

@Front Just need a clarification and confirmation on your PS

"just as you believe in Michael, he too believes in you"

Is that "he" believes in you or "He" believes in you.

I'm clarifying because this statement could be saying we believe in Michael and Michael in turn believe in us or it could be we believe in Michael BUT don't forget... God believes in us!

Many people have faith, belief and an undying love for Michael.  They will do anything for him.  They live their life for him.  That is noble, loyal, and what makes the MJ fans one of a kind!  But he is a mere human.  When all earthly hope was gone for Michael, it was God that never left his side.  Is this PS a reminder for us as well to know that God is also here for each and every one of us?

Or am I reading your poem through my God-loving, rose-colored glasses?  ;D


PureLove

Quote from: SimPattyK on May 07, 2012, 03:05:20 PM

Quote from: wishingstar on May 07, 2012, 02:28:35 PM

Quote from: SimPattyK on May 07, 2012, 01:52:11 PM

Jesus!! Wishy !! you drive me crazy !!  :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Sorry......I don't mean to  :-\

I think I start getting "accustomed" !!

Whatever that means!!

Love YOU !!

But I'm not getting any accustomed to your none Elvis&MJ banner Sim!  :WTF:  :icon_geek:  :icon_e_wink:

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