Official back & Front thread

[Jos]

Without the will to offend anyone, I hardly doubt the possible EOW on 21 december this year.
I think that TS & Front don't mean it that way, but use these words to tell us something else.

I've searched for a list with all EOW predictions over the last centuries, this is the outcoming of some of them:

Year:  156 - 157 by Montanus
Year:           500 by Hippolytus
 1 January 1000 by the European Christen
Year:         1656 by Christoffel Columbus
Year:         1806 by a chicken from Leads
Year:         1975 by Frederick William Franz (leader of the Jehova's)
Between 1997 & 2007 by Nostradamus
April 2002 / 2005 / 2010 by Prof. R.W. Rutten (the Antichrist shall takeover the Vatican)
March 30 2010   by some Scientist saying that the CERN will destroy the earth
Year:         2012  by the Maya's
Year:         2028-2048 by Tim Lahaye
And above all mr. Isaac Newton said that the EOW will be in 1715 or 1766. Or.. in 2060..

Well, next up is 2012 dec 12th., but I can't see why the Maya's are the only one knowing what will happen.
So, I think that TS & Front wants to say something else. But what I don't know.

What I do know is that only God knows, everyone else saying stuff about EOW - my opinion - is just looking into a glass ball. They don't know.
So maybe we've got to read this a bit different?

[Magic_Love_4U]

It is not the end of the world, no doomsday,,, nothing of sorts.
But the end of the world as we know it... when... who knows.

Madonna:
Frozen
Like a Prayer
Nobody Knows Me
Die another Day
Ray of Light
Express Yourself
Nothing Else Matters
Hollywood
Future Lovers
Love profusion
You'll See
Live to Tell
The Power of Good Bye

And I can go on, check the lyrics yourself and only listen to the WORDS!

It is not only Michael Jackson, they are MANY!
The truth will come, but you will only see and understand it if you are open enough.
It is all for LOVE!

[Andrea]

I agree with some of what you said Magic_Love.  I do believe that universal love can save the planet and is the ultimate reason we are here - to achieve that universal love.  I think at the very very end of TII when the young girl is hugging the Earth - it symbolizes the love we must send out to the Earth and every living being on it.  Our own energies are very powerful, both positive and negative, and can affect everybody else.  The problem is there is so much negative energy being generated.  It is up to each individual to send out love and I realize this might sound corny or whatever but I really believe it's true. 

[SEHF]

Looks like she followed him a lot during rehearsals and in this 2009 image he seemed okay with it... at that moment I suppose.

lol

[jono]

Gosh, I miss Aussie and Souza in this thread... Where did you guys go?

Stay classy  :icon_geek:

[hopi]

I agree with some of what you said Magic_Love.  I do believe that universal love can save the planet and is the ultimate reason we are here - to achieve that universal love.  I think at the very very end of TII when the young girl is hugging the Earth - it symbolizes the love we must send out to the Earth and every living being on it.  Our own energies are very powerful, both positive and negative, and can affect everybody else.  The problem is there is so much negative energy being generated.  It is up to each individual to send out love and I realize this might sound corny or whatever but I really believe it's true.

Yes, I agree - it's up to everyone of us to create/send out love and build out of this universal love a positive change for the whole world.
Every day all around the world...
It's hard work sometimes to stay positive and smiling, but I see it as my personal challenge to spread love and/or positive energy in my life. Sometimes it's quite satisfying, when I get an unexpected smile back...    so I keep on trying and hope with all my heart, that we all make a difference and the whole wide world will change for the better some day...

Love and light to all of you  :bearhug:

[Magic_Love_4U]

We had 4 years to get it right, keep messaging as he said.
Spread the love around.
I do hope the energy of love have increased enough.
But if it hasn't we are about to have a bumpy ride and only those who can resonate with the higher energies that are coming will survive it.

This is not fiction, just look at the world today, things are crumbeling, the planet is changing and increasing her energy/vibration... Weird things seen in the skies... Weird noises around the world coming from the planet.... They are finding more and more things about our history which they share (but there are always those who want to keep a lid on it or don't want to face facts.) Natural disasters has increased during the years.

Just focus on the love, true love and spread it and hopefully everything, the planet and most of us will be fine.

[Felix]

Looks like she followed him a lot during rehearsals and in this 2009 image he seemed okay with it... at that moment I suppose.

lol

I don't have any pictures with him..* sigh*

Michael, can I have one with you? Not that close as you both are in this one, of course but just one small pic together.

[BeTheChange]

@Magic_Love...thanks for sharing your thoughts, there was a discussion along those lines a few pages back.  I, too, believe that a 'shift' is taking place and will soon 'end' with a BAM lol, where everything and everyone will forever be changed.  There are so many different variations of this theory, though, that it is difficult to know exactly what is or will be involved (i.e. what 'effect' it will have on us or our role in it).  I just keep trying to read as much as I can in the hopes of being 'ready' IF it does turn out that there is truth to the coming shift (IF there is a way to get the heck out of 'here', I want a ticket lol).

I fully believe that Mike's messages run deep and always have...and there are many 'dots' one could find that point to his trying to 'warn' or prepare us for what's coming.  But then again, I wonder if I (we) just see what I (we) want to see and are way off the mark of what he (and others) have meant all along.  I do know that the overarching message has always been LOVE...it's the details or underlying layers (the 'why' so to speak) that can take on different meanings based on one's interpretation/perspective.  And although the details may not be important in the end...i.e. maybe focussing on LOVE (bigger picture) will be all that matters...something keeps 'driving' me to seek out the details or at least read as much as I can (I'd really HATE to 'miss the boat' because I wasn't 'open' enough or willing to 'study' a different perspective).

I also agree with what you said about other artists trying to get the same message across...but I do believe that the 'illuminati' (for lack of a better word) are present in all industries, including (and perhaps more so) the music industry.  As you said, there are those who do NOT want 'change' and/or want to retain their control/power.  Given the immense influence that the industry has on the masses, it would not be a  far stretch to believe that there are artists 'working' both sides of the fence.  It's very difficult, for me, to distinguish who is who and what side 'they' are on...some artists can go either way IMO....and my level of interest in any other artist other than Mike is miniscule in comparison.  So, I just focus on him...his message, his energy...and I fully trust in him. 

Above all ^^^, I trust in God.  No matter what is happening or will happen, I fully believe and trust that He is in control.  Knowing that and FULLY believing in it, lessens a LOT of my fears of any possible 'shift' and the effects of it.  Either way, I believe ALL paths will eventually lead us back to the One, The Source....no matter what trials and tribulations we must endure to get there.

But...if there is a New Earth on the horizon, I want to go there lol...I'm not done with my spiritual journey just yet and fully believe that the best is yet to come.

With L.O.V.E. always.

[Magic_Love_4U]

@BeTheChange

You are right on.
And it is important to look at all perspectives because it is good to be aware of all of them also to be aware of the good and the bad but always radiate the good and try our best to focus on the positive.

For me also MJ is THE main one to listen to, idk why but there is something about him I can't put my finger on and I am talking about his essance.

But try and look at madonnas superbowl performance with open eyes, see the entrence and listen to what she is singing.
Also she is singing about love, oneness, a new world, light and energy. Everything is not what it seems, we must open our eyes. Love.
Look closely on how she dances during the egyptian dance...

Love

[everlastinglove_MJ]

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In all of Michael's songs there has been important messages in order to let people THINK. This Is It had the same purpose, his message in order to unite and spread LOVE on earth and awareness about the deterioration of planet earth -> unity, LOVE & respect for each other on this earth, LOVE for nature. This is the core message. People need to realize, love and cherish the basic and most essential things in life.
Change your attitude of taking everything for granted, go back to basic and just realize and love what you have and just share this with others. When I watched This Is It I felt MJ's message very clearly, I was touched, I felt desperate and ready to fight for it. I have always been consious about life, but after watching This Is It even more. I followed the news about the environmental changes on earth and shifts in nature. Also about the global financial crisis, which has effect on everyone's social life, perhaps to one more than to the other, but everyone's learning from it. I am aware of that more than ever, people losing their jobs, unemployment everywhere. People start to cut costs in their health care insurance, while the gov is increasing the health care taxes here. These are a few examples that things are changing, hard lessons are being learned and I really hope that people start to lower their high expectations and demands in life and realize that things in life are just relative and that LOVE on earth is the key to peace and happiness.

I LOVE you!

[Its her]

Looks like she followed him a lot during rehearsals and in this 2009 image he seemed okay with it... at that moment I suppose.

lol

SEHF, what's so 'LOL' funny? I'm missing the joke, here. She looks happy and he's not squirming, either...     

Unless...         

she doesn't know that's not him...   :icon_e_surprised:

[Its her]

Yes my mistake, updates.

I also thought of TS redirect to Souza's post, about 2012 being too late. If that was the case, then why a redirect to a post about 2012 being too late, but it's 2012 now and no BAM, was that a test? Or maybe it means that after December 21 it will be too late. I'm not trying to speculate but, I don't understand...lol probably one of the most common words used to describe this hoax, I guess.

@Wishingstar, agreed. Yeah reading back over the thread has helped to find answers and confirm things. At the time when TS gave his updates or front gave his posts, some members were weary and as it was said 'TIME will tell' (here we go again with time) and tell it did, looking back at them now, you can see how prophetic it was.

@MJonMind, I sometimes thought what you did, I think because of waiting on TIME, it's allowed doubts. But what Bec said seems to makes sense.

Does anyone get annoyed at the fact that when we find out (hopefully) the in's and out's of the hoax after MJ BAM's, that it's probably pretty simple. I mean, we've made progress, but what occurred on June 25th? With all the investigation we did for the levels TS_comments created, we haven't completed it yet and when we learn the truth, we will probably kick ourselves...lol. Anyway maybe TS forgot or isn't doing it any more (plans change) but what happened with level 7c and graduation? Are we still on level 7b? TS said if he has to do 7c himself he will and post it up by no later than the end of November (2011), or have we done 7c? I can't remember.

I don't know when MJ will BAM, like MJFAN, I have my own BAM dates, but I don't think I am that interested to get a confirmation of MJ being alive, I just really want to know how it was done.

Someone was saying something about a BAM and a comeback. Well if this is a takeover and not a comeback it would mean, that the BAM = Takeover or is the trigger for the transition of the takeover, right? But takeover of what? Is it safe to say MJ won't be making a comeback, because he probably will no longer be the entertainer/artist? Will he just be making a comeback to real life? I mean, if we look at it, with a BAM that is non physical, then I guess that could make sense, but what after the BAM, like after it's died down and over with, I mean the word BAM sounds like something that is quick and not continuous in this hoax context, that's how the BAM will be right? So what will MJ do after that, go back to normal life? Is that possible? He might not be in the public eye, but he will be, you can physically stop and retire from the business, but to everyone else you don't just stop, you'll still be that entertainer to them, fans and media etc.

Or will it be that we will see a physical BAM and then MJ goes off and disappears like Batman? I mean what if all these years the face of MJ is not really the face of MJ. I just don't see how any of this could be done.

Here I am, calmly getting caught up in the threads, when all of a sudden I spot this! You and I have some of the same concerns, but it was THIS which made me read on to see if anyone else commented. Perhaps it was too scary of a thought... :icon_pale: :affraid: :affraid: But, anyways, UYI! You can't drop a BOMB like that and flit away like some fuzzy butterfly! I believe you are ON to something major, which will leave everyone SPEECHLESS. This reminds me of the Christmas song, which goes, "Do you hear what I hear?", only, I'm wondering UYI, ♪DO ♪YOU ♪SEE ♪WHAT I ♪SEE?  MJ has probably been out and about all over the place in his real face ALL these years, unbeknownst to anyone! Ya know what THAT means... :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: Oh, yeah, it could be done! I bet that genius did it, TOO! :icon_e_surprised:

Reminds me of another song, "I started a joke...". omg  :affraid:

[sweetsunsetwithMJ]

@Its who....LOL, where have you been Princess? I have been missing your funny and crazy posts  :woohoo2: You are back!

[wishingstar]

Yes....I second that It's What.......
I love that song, Do you Hear What I Hear?
It has an amazing little history about it too........
written as a plea for peace.....here's the Wiki:

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Here are the full lyrics as well:

Do You Hear What I Hear?

Said the night wind to the little lamb
Do you see what I see?
'Way up in the sky, little lamb
Do you see what I see?


A star, a star
Dancing in the night
With a tail as big as a kite
With a tail as big as a kite


Said the little lamb to the shepherd boy
Do you hear what I hear?
Ringing thru the sky, shepherd boy
Do you hear what I hear?


A song, a song
High above the tree
With a voice as big as the sea
With a voice as big as the sea


Said the shepherd boy to the mighty king
Do you know what I know?
In your palace warm, mighty king
Do you know what I know?


A Child, a Child
Shivers in the cold
Let us bring Him silver and gold
Let us bring Him silver and gold


Said the king to the people ev'rywhere
Listen to what I say!
Pray for peace, people ev'rywhere
Listen to what I say!


The Child, the Child
Sleeping in the night
He will bring us goodness and light
He will bring us goodness and light


Love that song......I start playing Christmas songs very early...I am, "one of those people" LOL......
some folks complain about the stores here playing Christmas songs at Thanksgiving.....I love it!  : )

yes.....also interesting thoughts going on here.......good to see you!
Hugs.....
LOVE