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Quote from: "mehere"Well I would just like to saySeems to me that Prince did pretty well for himself in a country he hates so much. We as a society aren't perfect. Many, many people try to make it a better place...a better world.However, if Prince so hates it here he could easily go elsewhere and denounce his citizenship. It just pisses me off.Didnt Michael pretty much have the same kind of attitude towards the USA, though? He did vow to never perform in the USA again.... :?
Well I would just like to saySeems to me that Prince did pretty well for himself in a country he hates so much. We as a society aren't perfect. Many, many people try to make it a better place...a better world.However, if Prince so hates it here he could easily go elsewhere and denounce his citizenship. It just pisses me off.
alovesmichael, I agree with you. I think Prince is speaking out about his frustrations, with the hope of bringing about awareness and change. I think you can love your country and care enough to despise what's going on in it. I have to respect Prince for bringing up these issues. That takes some guts.
Thank you KingofMystery for sharing your thoughts on this. Yes, racism is definitely a part of the Michael Jackson conspiracy and it HAS to stop, right here and right now.You wrote: "Weeks ago, TMZ drew our attention to the date of January 18, which happened to being Martin Luther King, Jr. day in the US. Many of us here suspected a connection. January 18 came and went, a rather uneventful day in MJ news.". Let's not forget about the demonstrations that took place that very same day in Los Angeles (brought to us through TMZ Live), New York and Chicago.
Also, if anyone has any further insight or finds any additional information about there being previous presidents before George Washington in the US, please share your findings. I will do the same. This issue has really captured my interest, as I have never even heard of this before.
Quote from: "kingofmystery"Also, if anyone has any further insight or finds any additional information about there being previous presidents before George Washington in the US, please share your findings. I will do the same. This issue has really captured my interest, as I have never even heard of this before."John Hanson First President of the United StatesGeorge Washington Had 7 Presidential Predecessors Sep 8, 2008 Shawn M. Tomlinson Who was the first president of the United States? Wrong. It wasn't George Washington, but it was a friend of his. John Hanson, the representative from Maryland to the Continental Congress in 1781 and elected as the first president from 1781 to 1782.The First Black President?And he may have been black, according to Alex'ander Wilson on the Web site presidentjohnhanson.com. The author claims Hanson was a Moor. He delves into questions about Hanson including why he is not listed a signer of the Declaration of Independence and why there doesn’t appear to be a body."Read more at Suite101: John Hanson First President of the United States: George Washington Had 7 Presidential Predecessors You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginMore info:From Wikipedia -You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginAnd just because I love Dick Gregory - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"Quote from: "mehere"Well I would just like to saySeems to me that Prince did pretty well for himself in a country he hates so much. We as a society aren't perfect. Many, many people try to make it a better place...a better world.However, if Prince so hates it here he could easily go elsewhere and denounce his citizenship. It just pisses me off.Didnt Michael pretty much have the same kind of attitude towards the USA, though? He did vow to never perform in the USA again.... :?Yes, Michael did not want to perform in the US and no wonder the way they (american media) treated him :x He did however do the 30th anniversary shows in NY, which was afterwards.
Quote from: "alovesmichael"Quote from: "DancingTheDream"Quote from: "mehere"Well I would just like to saySeems to me that Prince did pretty well for himself in a country he hates so much. We as a society aren't perfect. Many, many people try to make it a better place...a better world.However, if Prince so hates it here he could easily go elsewhere and denounce his citizenship. It just pisses me off.Didnt Michael pretty much have the same kind of attitude towards the USA, though? He did vow to never perform in the USA again.... :?Yes, Michael did not want to perform in the US and no wonder the way they (american media) treated him :x He did however do the 30th anniversary shows in NY, which was afterwards.Oh, sure, that's easy for you to say- seeing as you don't live here! Did Michael actually say that himself? Because if he did, he sure is forgetting that he only has like, oh, a couple of thousands of fans here, many of whom are either lifelong fans that were with him from the J5 days or people who went out of their way to support him in person at the trial or eager, starry-eyed children that dream of seeing him perform. (especially after all the stories they've heard or seen about "how absolutely no one else is like Michael Jackson, you have got to see him in person and feel his energy!") More likely than not, most of them would never be able to go abroad to see him, even a show here is expensive nowadays.. It's not just a media here, you know, but I guess he doesn't care about depriving these fans, does he? Fans in the land he came from, without whom he would never have gotten a start, in the first place..
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"Quote from: "alovesmichael"Quote from: "DancingTheDream"Quote from: "mehere"Well I would just like to saySeems to me that Prince did pretty well for himself in a country he hates so much. We as a society aren't perfect. Many, many people try to make it a better place...a better world.However, if Prince so hates it here he could easily go elsewhere and denounce his citizenship. It just pisses me off.Didnt Michael pretty much have the same kind of attitude towards the USA, though? He did vow to never perform in the USA again.... :?Yes, Michael did not want to perform in the US and no wonder the way they (american media) treated him :x He did however do the 30th anniversary shows in NY, which was afterwards.Oh, sure, that's easy for you to say- seeing as you don't live here! Did Michael actually say that himself? Because if he did, he sure is forgetting that he only has like, oh, a couple of thousands of fans here, many of whom are either lifelong fans that were with him from the J5 days or people who went out of their way to support him in person at the trial or eager, starry-eyed children that dream of seeing him perform. (especially after all the stories they've heard or seen about "how absolutely no one else is like Michael Jackson, you have got to see him in person and feel his energy!") More likely than not, most of them would never be able to go abroad to see him, even a show here is expensive nowadays.. It's not just a media here, you know, but I guess he doesn't care about depriving these fans, does he? Fans in the land he came from, without whom he would never have gotten a start, in the first place..PinkTopaz, I think that is just speculation about why Michael didn't perform in the US. I have never heard him say that, or even allude to that. I think he was proud to be an American, but he also knew he "belonged" to the rest of the world, so he toured overseas to please (and build) a strong overseas fan base. That's what I hope anyway!
Quote from: "kingofmystery"Quote from: "PinkTopaz"Quote from: "alovesmichael"Quote from: "DancingTheDream"Quote from: "mehere"Well I would just like to saySeems to me that Prince did pretty well for himself in a country he hates so much. We as a society aren't perfect. Many, many people try to make it a better place...a better world.However, if Prince so hates it here he could easily go elsewhere and denounce his citizenship. It just pisses me off.Didnt Michael pretty much have the same kind of attitude towards the USA, though? He did vow to never perform in the USA again.... :?Yes, Michael did not want to perform in the US and no wonder the way they (american media) treated him :x He did however do the 30th anniversary shows in NY, which was afterwards.Oh, sure, that's easy for you to say- seeing as you don't live here! Did Michael actually say that himself? Because if he did, he sure is forgetting that he only has like, oh, a couple of thousands of fans here, many of whom are either lifelong fans that were with him from the J5 days or people who went out of their way to support him in person at the trial or eager, starry-eyed children that dream of seeing him perform. (especially after all the stories they've heard or seen about "how absolutely no one else is like Michael Jackson, you have got to see him in person and feel his energy!") More likely than not, most of them would never be able to go abroad to see him, even a show here is expensive nowadays.. It's not just a media here, you know, but I guess he doesn't care about depriving these fans, does he? Fans in the land he came from, without whom he would never have gotten a start, in the first place..PinkTopaz, I think that is just speculation about why Michael didn't perform in the US. I have never heard him say that, or even allude to that. I think he was proud to be an American, but he also knew he "belonged" to the rest of the world, so he toured overseas to please (and build) a strong overseas fan base. That's what I hope anyway!I certainly hope so, too- like Michael said, only believe it if it comes from my mouth or something like that!
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"Quote from: "kingofmystery"Quote from: "PinkTopaz"Quote from: "alovesmichael"Quote from: "DancingTheDream"Quote from: "mehere"Well I would just like to saySeems to me that Prince did pretty well for himself in a country he hates so much. We as a society aren't perfect. Many, many people try to make it a better place...a better world.However, if Prince so hates it here he could easily go elsewhere and denounce his citizenship. It just pisses me off.Didnt Michael pretty much have the same kind of attitude towards the USA, though? He did vow to never perform in the USA again.... :?Yes, Michael did not want to perform in the US and no wonder the way they (american media) treated him :x He did however do the 30th anniversary shows in NY, which was afterwards.Oh, sure, that's easy for you to say- seeing as you don't live here! Did Michael actually say that himself? Because if he did, he sure is forgetting that he only has like, oh, a couple of thousands of fans here, many of whom are either lifelong fans that were with him from the J5 days or people who went out of their way to support him in person at the trial or eager, starry-eyed children that dream of seeing him perform. (especially after all the stories they've heard or seen about "how absolutely no one else is like Michael Jackson, you have got to see him in person and feel his energy!") More likely than not, most of them would never be able to go abroad to see him, even a show here is expensive nowadays.. It's not just a media here, you know, but I guess he doesn't care about depriving these fans, does he? Fans in the land he came from, without whom he would never have gotten a start, in the first place..PinkTopaz, I think that is just speculation about why Michael didn't perform in the US. I have never heard him say that, or even allude to that. I think he was proud to be an American, but he also knew he "belonged" to the rest of the world, so he toured overseas to please (and build) a strong overseas fan base. That's what I hope anyway!I certainly hope so, too- like Michael said, only believe it if it comes from my mouth or something like that! Excuse my choice of expression what I meant is that I've HEARD Michael did not want to perform in the US because of the pressure. I did however see a reporter ask him if he wanted to perform in the US again and he said that he'd love too. I also remember an interview (after the release of Invincible) where he said that his album was number one all over the world except from in America... Perhaps that made him wonder about how people saw him but of course it's only speculation. I know Michael loves all his fans and if something would keep him away from something it would definitely not be the fans! However, none of us can deny that American and British tabloids have treated Michael like s**t and that's a fact! Btw I grew up in Sweden and I love that country and always will but I do not want to live there that does not mean I'm not proud to be SWedish or that I hate my fellow Swedes... Just putting it in another perspective for you
There was a video of Prince talking about MJ before his death, i think it was after the 2005 Trial, not exactly sure....but in that interview he basically is saying pple is underestimating Michael and that we better watch out and leave him alone b.c Michael has something up his sleeve...something like that..not exactly sure of the exact words but it was sumin like that........not sure if its been discussed here but when i find the video i'll be sure to post it.......Both Prince and Michael were two very good artist and they both admired each other and thier rivalery wasnt at all what the Media made it out to b.....in my personal opinion their rivalery was like Michael's and Janet's...pure loving...every artist finds the other artist competition but the way its handled is the real key...and in My Opinion they BOTH made it clear they werent enemies and they Both had pretty much the same Message of Racism so thas where i stand with the whole Prince and Michael case....Love them Both and They both are gorgeous....
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