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[MJ_Facts]

.. and I wondered "a scapegoat for what or for whom"? The DEA investigation? The hoax and a possible manslaughter that wasn't a manslaughter after all?

What do you think?

PS. For those who do not remember: He said this during his loooong TMZ interview and he also mentioned that there WAS propofol in the guest room but that it WAS NOT USED!!!!  :shock:

[mjj_fan]

do u have the link  to the interview? :shock:

[DooDoo]

I remember that too, but I haven't got the link  :?

[mjj_fan]

should we believe dr klien ???, on tmz he said such ri'diculous things about mj and his  family you can hardly expect of your physician, he lost his credibility to me atleast. i mention a link in a post name what if dr murray wasnt there read the comments made by dr murray colleagues .

[mjboogie]

[/How does he know that there was propofol in the guest room? :? b]

[QuirkyDiana]

I don't know what to make of Klein really. I don't know where he gets his information from and how reliable it is. I heard he said CM was giving propofol intramuscularly, yet the propofol IV was found in his left leg below the knee. But with regard to everything else, he was seeing MJ pretty regularly before his 'death' right? So you would think his opinions would count for something - if he's telling the truth. Perhaps the most interesting thing he said was that MJ hugged everyone in the office like he was leaving (for good) or something.

[the arabian nights]

klein looked like an honest joe to me

[MJ_Facts]

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... 72fc8c0d52

Here is the video - duration: 96 minutes!!  :)

[QuirkyDiana]

When people say Murray is a 'fall guy', who are the people he is a fall guy for and which theory/theories are you suggesting would indicate this. What's the scenario that would lead Murray to be labelled a fall guy/scapegoat? People just seem to say 'Oh Murray - scapegoat' without actually expanding on who else they must be implicating. Is he a fall guy for the other docs who were also feelgood docs, in which case it's suggesting that the overdose was accidental.  Or is he the fall guy for a wider group of people (manager/promoters) who just did not care about MJ's mental/physical wellbeing (here we assume that people were in the know about his problems and inappropriate use of drugs to overcome those probs). Or is he the fall guy for a wider group of people who conspired to murder MJ for whatever reason. Which one is it?

[Java]

When people say Murray is a 'fall guy', who are the people he is a fall guy for and which theory/theories are you suggesting would indicate this. What's the scenario that would lead Murray to be labelled a fall guy/scapegoat? People just seem to say 'Oh Murray - scapegoat' without actually expanding on who else they must be implicating. Is he a fall guy for the other docs who were also feelgood docs, in which case it's suggesting that the overdose was accidental.  Or is he the fall guy for a wider group of people (manager/promoters) who just did not care about MJ's mental/physical wellbeing (here we assume that people were in the know about his problems and inappropriate use of drugs to overcome those probs). Or is he the fall guy for a wider group of people who conspired to murder MJ for whatever reason. Which one is it?

I know what you mean.  Maybe they're all using the incorrect term when they say scapegoat.  "Scapegoat" implies the person/s that did the crime are not the ones that are gonna to the time.  So I see three options here.  He injected Michael and was alone; he injected Michael and there was someone else there, or someone else injected Michael while Dr. Murray was out of the room or looked on dumbfounded...or  not.

[the arabian nights]

wonder if arnie is going to give evidence not heard from him in the press or TMZ

[the arabian nights]

lts face it this trial is so devoid of publicity - oj was not like this

no pundits up there why not

what has happened to all those civil rights leaders - should phone the police and place a missing persons ad?