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TIAI Update #2: JACK5ONS Tweet on 1-18 About TIAI "Revealed"

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Although this update is shorter than the last one, it's still too long to post in the replies section of the TIAI Update #1 thread (as I had previously mentioned).  In case anyone has not read TIAI Update #1 yet, here is the link for that: {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3391}.

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2-1. Outline for TIAI Update #2

2-1. Outline for TIAI Update #2
2-2. ALLJACK5ONS Tweet "Revealed" on January 18
2-3. Official Media Story of MJ Death: Impossible!
2-4. Real Murder & Fake Hoax, or Fake Murder & Real Hoax?
2-5. Is TMZ a Counterfeit Hoax Informer?

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2-2. ALLJACK5ONS Tweet "Revealed" on MLK Day

Here is their tweet: "if u don't think our emotion is real, all I can do is pray for you. see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie - media does" {8:38 PM Jan 18th from web; http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS/status/7933369787}.

First of all, we need to understand both the time and the subject context of this tweet.  The date was January 18, 2010—which was of course MLK Day; and indeed they knew what day it was, as can be clearly seen in two earlier tweets that day {http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS/status/7910852947; http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS/status/7910861080}.  This was also one day after the final Jackson Reality Show, which ended with a visit to Forest Lawn {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=82}.

The tweets both before and after the "revealed" tweet were all on the subject of the Reality Show, and especially the ending about MJ.  Some of the tweets even mention MJ specifically {http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS; click "more" at the bottom of the page, until you get to January 18 tweets}.  

So the context of this "revealed" tweet is clearly about MJ.  The next step is to understand that this tweet is in response to hoax believers ("if u don't think our emotion is real").  Hoaxers have been saying all along, that a huge evidence of the hoax is the lack of tears from the family at the memorial and burial, etc.  Surely, they are not ignorant of this.

And what could they possibly be responding to, other than the hoax—could it be that they were responding to accusations that their emotions were not real, because they don't care that MJ is dead?  Who would say such a thing?  And even if someone was cold enough to say that, why would they even bother to respond?  Worse yet, why would they respond by saying that the media lies??  Has the media been trying to convince people (falsely), that the Jackson family's emotions are not real???

Sorry, but the statement about emotions and media lying doesn't make sense, unless they were referring to the hoax theory.  So this tweet was in response to hoax believers; and believers themselves have recognized this fact, in threads such as this one: "Jacksons address hoax!!" {posted by dirtydiana2009; http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3783}.  Since this is the most direct statement yet, from the family, about hoax believers: this tweet deserves thorough investigation.

The part about their "emotion is real" does not specifically say emotion from MJ dying; it could be emotion from the pain that the media lies have caused, etc (media lies are mentioned in this tweet, MJ death is not mentioned in this tweet).  And in fact, even the hoax itself is painful for MJ (he knows that it has hurt the fans, and that hurts him; also, he wants to return as much or more than his fans want him to return).

Primarily, though, we need to examine the last half of this tweet: "see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie - media does".  Notice the very clear plural usage: "see truths [plural] when they [plural] are [plural] revealed to you".  If MJ really were dead, and this is all that they were trying to say, then why the plural?  Why wouldn't it be "see the truth [MJ is dead] when it is revealed"?

And again, why the reference to the media lying??  If the Jacksons know that MJ is really dead, and this is what they are referring to here, then why wouldn't they be supporting media "truth" (reports that MJ is dead)??  And why the phrase "ur eyes don't lie"?  We have never seen any dead body; so "ur eyes don't lie" can't possibly mean that our eyes have already seen for ourselves that MJ is really dead.

The only conclusion which makes sense, is that the Jacksons tweet mentioned "truths" about the hoax—and our eyes don't lie regarding these things.  This also fits the statement about the media lies—the media is not telling the truth about the hoax, they are saying that MJ is dead (but our eyes can see the hoax).

Now let's take it a step further.  Since this is clearly referring to truths about the hoax: why did they use the word "revealed"?  Why not use some other word, such as "see truths when they r shown to you"?  Or "recognize truths when they r seen by you"?  Or any of several other ways to say it?

Do you suppose that they were entirely ignorant of TIAI Revealed—which was posted nearly a month before 1-18, and Part 1 had about 11,000 views by 1-18?  Also, TIAI Revealed Update #1 was posted one week before 1-18, and had about 15,000 views by 1-18.  Few if any posts on this forum have more views.  If any of the Jacksons were paying any attention whatsoever to the hoax forums, then surely they were already aware of TIAI Revealed, on 1-18.

For the sake of TIAI doubters, let's say that TIAI is not really MJ's message.  Don't you think in that case, the Jacksons would avoid any hint of support for TIAI—and maybe even give hints against it?  Yet instead of that, they use the very word "revealed" in this tweet, the statement which is the clearest statement yet from them about the hoax; and they refer to the things "revealed" as "truths" that "ur eyes" can and should "see".

Not only did they use the word "revealed", but they also referred to the media lies—which is one of the main themes in TIAI.  Notice that TIAI Revealed, Part 7, even has the word media in the title: "NWO Powers Control the Mass Media"; and redirect #9 has the title: "9/11 Truth vs Mainstream Media".

Last but not least: why was this tweet given on January 18, MLK Day?  Do you think that they knew nothing about the MLK connections with the hoax (They Don't Really Care About Us?)—and do you think they were totally unaware of TIAI Update #1 (with 15,000 views), and the things in there about January 18???

So we have here a clear Jackson statement about the hoax, using the word "revealed", and referring to media lies—and it was even done on January 18, MLK Day!  Either these things are more TIAI "coincidences" (added to all the previous ones), or else they were giving clues about TIAI.

Well, how much clearer of a clue do you want?  Do they need to spell out the domain for you: http://www.thisisalsoit.com??  Be assured, that will not happen before MJ comes back (it would be too big of a hint about the hoax).  In fact, don't be too surprised if they don't say anything directly even after MJ comes back—surely you can understand why, due to the nature of the subjects involved.

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2-3. Official Media Story of MJ Death: Impossible!

This section (2-3), and the next section (2-4), are especially for those who are losing faith—and thinking that maybe MJ is really dead.

Here is the tweet again: "if u don't think our emotion is real, all I can do is pray for you. see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie - media does" {8:38 PM Jan 18th from web; http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS/status/7933369787}.

For the sake of the die-hard TIAI opposers, and even for the sake of those losing faith: let's consider all possibilities about the word "revealed" in this tweet.  Perhaps they were aware of TIAI Revealed, and used the "revealed" word anyway; or perhaps they were unaware of TIAI Revealed, and this is yet another round of TIAI & STUDY "coincidences": usage of the word "revealed", the reference to media lies, and tweeted on 1-18 (plus all the previous "coincidences", see Update #1, 1-10).  Let's consider both of these possible situations (Jacksons aware of TIAI, or unaware).

If they were already aware of TIAI Revealed (and Update #1, about January 18): and they knew that TIAI is a fake message (either fake because MJ is really dead, or fake because MJ is alive yet TIAI message is wrong): then surely they would've avoided mentioning "truths ... revealed" in the same tweet about media lies on MLK Day!!!  The only sane conclusion is that they are in support of TIAI Revealed, or else they have never even heard of it (and it was more "coincidences").

But if you take the position that they are entirely ignorant of TIAI, it brings up several major problems.  Why would they be ignorant of TIAI, are they paying no attention whatsoever to the hoax forums?  Even if MJ were really dead, don't you think that at least one person in the family might check the hoax forums now and then—and share the highlights with other family members?  Don't you think that TIAI redirects and Revealed would be one of those highlights, since there are so many views on TIAI posts?  And especially if they know that MJ is alive, then wouldn't they be even far more interested in the hoax forums??

For TIAI opposers and hoax doubters, we will now examine very seriously the only remaining realistic possibility.  For the Jacksons to not be in favour of TIAI, all three of the following things would have to be true: first, MJ actually died; second, none of the family members are paying any attention whatsoever to the hoax forums; and third, the tweet about "truths ... revealed" and media lies on MLK Day are more amazing TIAI coincidences.

Some will probably find it easy to buy the third one, "coincidences"; a few may even think that the second one is true (Jacksons don't read the forums)—but what about MJ actually being dead, could this be what the "truths ... revealed" tweet is about?  We already examined that a little above, but now it's time to take a much more serious look into this question—especially since more and more hoaxers are losing faith.

As noted already above, this tweet mentions media lies—in the context of Forest Lawn, and MJ, etc.  So we can now be certain that the Jacksons do not agree with the media story about MJ's "death"—we can rule that out as impossible!  The only question is whether the media reports are not true because MJ is still alive, or the media reports are not true because MJ was intentionally murdered.

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2-4. Real Murder & Fake Hoax, or Fake Murder & Real Hoax?

The intentional murder theory has been around just about as long as the hoax theory (although not nearly as widely accepted as the hoax); and La Toya has even given support to this idea {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e8LPrYiT38}.  But there are several major evidences against the murder theory—not the least of which is the family themselves!

Even La Toya's murder complaints have come across more as a hoax diversion tactic, than a serious outcry for justice.  But why hasn't the entire family screamed "bloody murder", if this is really what they believe???  Are they walking on eggshells, until the time is right to expose the murder plot?  This is worthy of consideration; but if that is the case, then why did La Toya spill the beans?  Why didn't she keep quite like the rest?

Furthermore, the murder theory does not answer to the lack of tears from any of the family at the memorial and burial; quite the opposite—we saw smiling, laughing, many sunglasses (hiding tears, or hiding lack of tears??), and all the rest that most of you have known about for months.  If they really thought that MJ was murdered, then you would expect them to be as much or more emotional than a real death from other reasons.

On June 25, TMZ reported that "La Toya Jackson was in tears as she ran inside the UCLA ..." {http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/la-toya-jackson-michael-jackson-jacko-dead-dead/}.  Notice in the picture that we can see her running, we can even see a close-up of her face—but we see no tears!  We can see the sunglasses (as usual); but if there are any tears, they are not flowing down her face (and are only minor tears, hidden by the glasses).

All of the major evidences of the hoax still exist, they have not vanished.  People are losing faith (thinking that maybe MJ is actually dead)—not because the hoax evidence has disappeared, but because MJ has not returned yet.  But this fact, in and of itself, is no evidence that he was murdered.

We now know for certain that the media story about MJ's "death" is not true (from the ALLJACK5ONS tweet).  In the past, hoaxers have put the hoax evidence up against the official story.  But we don't need to do that anymore; the only thing left that we need to do, is put the hoax evidence up against the intentional murder theory.  So let's re-examine some of the major hoax evidences, in light of the murder theory.

This theory requires an extremely sinister and highly-calculated plot, with many involved—probably including at least some in the Jackson family.  Please don't get me wrong, I am not trying to say that this is the actual case; I am merely showing that this theory is totally unrealistic.

There can be no trace of doubt that if this was murder, it was intentionally covered up by trying to make it look like a death hoax; and it was well planned, long before June 25, 2009.  But you would have to include Kenny Ortega, and many others, who were all involved in this plot to create the film "This Is It" and make it look like an MJ death hoax (Smooth Criminal / Gilda, spider resurrection, "Bam" statement at the end, no RIP, etc).

Then you have the Liberian Girl pictures at the memorial and burial.  Surely you would think that at least one family member was involved in the selection of these pictures; and surely the family is not ignorant of MJ directing behind the scenes, in the Liberian Girl video.  Either someone outside of the family (who was part of this sinister murder plot) had the power to require that these Liberian Girl pictures be used, or else the family was in on the murder plot (or else, of course, it was not murder).

Last but certainly not least: the 9-9-09 timing shows strikingly that the June 25 "death" and September 3 "burial" were not only planned, but they were planned by MJ himself—and not some NWO murder plot.  This is because the timing is based on 77 days (6-25-09 to 9-9-09) and 7 days (9-3-09 to 9-9-09); these are numbers that MJ would certainly choose, but probably not NWO powers.

Furthermore, the usage of inclusive reckoning is something that none but diligent Bible students would understand; corrupt NWO leaders do not study the Bible very much (if at all), or care about inclusive reckoning in the Bible.  Even many sincere Christians don't know very much if anything about inclusive reckoning, much less NWO murderers.

I have yet to give an update on the 9-9-09 relationship to the hoax; it is one of the strongest evidences of the hoax, and against the murder theory.  But I have decided not to give that update until after the TII DVD comes out.

For those who are still not sure if MJ is alive, even after all of the evidence in this TIAI update: here is your ultimate test, how to get closure.  If Murray gets thrown in the slammer, then MJ is really dead.  And watch for the Jacksons to reveal truths about the murder: "see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie".  If this tweet is not about the hoax, then it is about an intentional murder; and therefore they are saying that our eyes will see truths about this murder.

If the doctor goes to trial, and is found not guilty: again, watch the family.  If they make an uproar (which they are certainly capable of doing, with all the publicity that they get)—and show truths about a murder plot, then MJ is really dead.  But if they act nearly the same as at the memorial and funeral, then MJ is alive.  And last of all, if MJ returns before the Murray trial—well I hope that will give you closure!!!  Whatever, something is sure to happen soon and very soon.

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2-5. Is TMZ a Counterfeit Hoax Informer?

For those who did check TMZ on January 18, you may have seen the organized protest against mainstream media (NBC), although it was not specifically about MJ {http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/18/conan-obrien-photo-picture-protest-nbc-jay-leno/}.  And of course, as already discussed in length above, January 18 was the day of the Jacksons tweet.

But some hoax believers have said that maybe TMZ is a counterfeit hoax informer, especially since January 18 came and went without the big MJ return.  However, if TMZ does not have actual information about MJ, then why were they the first ones to report the "death"?  Whether or not you believe the hoax, there can be no question that TMZ had insider information about MJ's "death".

Now for the sake of argument: let's say that MJ himself was a member on a hoax forum, and announced a return date—but the date came and went, with no return.  Would this prove that MJ is a counterfeit informer, or would it prove that he had to change his plans?  By now, probably everyone knows that there was a major earthquake in Haiti, just one day after TIAI Update #1 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake}.  This does not mean that the earthquake was the only reason why MJ did not return on 1-18; but it is an example of how things can happen, which cause a change in plans.

Notice what TIAI said about specific dates, in TIAI Revealed Part 6 (R22): "As he [MJ] said at the end of the movie: I will come 'in my own time'; it is up to him alone, and nobody else will be able to figure it out for sure.  Some distinct possibilities include: 12-25-09 (Christmas), 12-31-09 (full moon & New Years Eve), 1-1-10 (New Years Day), 1-18-10 (MLK Day), 1-25-10 (seven months since the 'death', and same time as the DVD release), or beyond."

Also notice the title of Update #1: "HIGH PROBABILITY OF MJ 'RETURN' THIS MONTH!"  It did not say "certainty"; and even the high "probability" was only "this month"—not necessarily January 18.  And this month is not over yet; in fact, it has been ten days since TIAI Update #1, and there is still ten days to the end of January.

Some wondered why the word "RETURN" in the title (of Update #1) was in quote marks.  Was it for emphasis, or was it indicating a non-real return (like when we refer to the "death" in quotes, it's not a real death).  Those who carefully read TIAI Revealed (Part 6), you will probably understand why it was in quotes.  It goes back to my STUDY prediction about the TII movie rated "R"—for "Resurrection" (Thriller spider), hoax "Revealed" (Smooth Criminal, etc), and MJ "Return" (also this word used in the TII DVD).

If you read the replies and posts after Update #1, many people wisely cautioned against getting hopes too high for January 18; yet many got their hopes up anyway, and were very disappointed.  Although the disappointment was unfortunate, yet a far greater disappointment is the fact that some are still more interested in a return date than they are about the reasons for the hoax {see "BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!" by MJalive999; http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3561}.

Nevertheless, it is encouraging that a large percentage of hoax believers have now seen and accepted the major reasons for the hoax.  And again, if you read the replies, you will see that many are more interested in the message than the exact return date.  Because January 18 was yet another of several disappointments, some have requested that we don't use any more specific return date theories.  So be it.  When we are ready, when MJ is ready, he will return—no sooner, and no later.

Well, it's time to wrap up this second update.  In these updates I am not trying to defend myself; what I am defending is the message.  And I am trying to help make MJ's "return" safer, sooner, and more successful when he does come back.

The complaints against TIAI are losing their power, especially after this update.  Almost all recent complaints have zero evidence, only derogatory statements.  But anybody can say derogatory things, and it means nothing whatsoever (except that it shows what you personally don't like).  For those who want to go by truth, and not mere feelings, you need to base things on evidence.  Truth can stand up to the test of evidence.

And finally, for those who might still have any doubts about TIAI, notice that fake informers usually make big claims about who they are (I've never said that I'm MJ, or Marlon, etc).  Fake informers also come and go with the wind—can you count how many there have been, in the last half of a year?  I can't count them.  And where are most of them now?  Did they get bored?  Or did it become obvious that they didn't know anything in advance, etc?

In striking contrast to these fake informers, why is TIAI (& STUDY) still around after about half of a year—and going stronger than ever??  Why has TIAI (& STUDY) repeatedly shown advance information, as well as TIAI clues from TMZ and now the Jacksons?  TIAI is not going away.  It's time for all of MJ's real fans to accept his real message—it's all for L.O.V.E.
禪   Link

ralu

February 08, 2010, 03:47:07 AM #270 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "mimie7659"

mon ide est surement grotesque et impossible , j ai regarde this is it , michael nous fait comprendre qu il n y a plus que 4 ans pour sauver la planete, moi je suis persuadee que la cle du changement de situation est l Afrique , pour moi si on arrive a sauver l afrique , le pouvoir changera de direction, quand j ai regarde this is it , j ai eu une idee qui peut paraitre absurde mais si ca marchait, on pourrait combattre a armes egales
si on trouvait un moyen de monopoliser l attention des gens a ne plus payer d impots ou de taxes ou de credits vu que c est en majorite l argent de l etat je parle a echelle mondiale on inverserait l ordre des choses, et cet argent on le servirait a l afrique, je sais c est impossible a faire, je suis malade ma fille m a laisse sa petite maladie en partant et m a dit quand on n aime on partage tout !!!! lol  d  accord ils pourraient faire une saisie sur salaire ou une saisie bancaire mais si c est a une echelle planetaire, les gouvernements ne pourrainet rien faire et le pouvoir et l economie seraient alors inverses , vu que monsieur obama ne se gene pas pour augmenter les prets de maison et mets les gens dehors et qu ici en france on est surtaxe, oui bon je sais c est impossible a faire et je suis surement tomber sur la tete ou mon nez a aussi boucher mes neuronnes mais ne serait ce pas une idee a creuser, je sens que je dis n importe quoi comment mobiliser un peuple qui a peur c est peine perdue bisous que dieu vous protege et vous benisse de normandie france

Try to read this link carefully and give it enough time to answer to all your questions. I've mentioned it several times before and I don't want to be insistent about this, but it sems to me that it could be the thing you are looking for:

http://www.thevenusproject.com/

Life isn\'t about waiting for the storm to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain

ralu

February 08, 2010, 03:50:16 AM #271 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "paula-c"

Michelle WilkieNZ and ralu, read what you write is therapy for the soul, as I said before is always good to read something so beautiful. ;)

If one single person can find a little peace or inspiration in those thoughts I've written, than it is enough reward for me to go on. Much love to you.

Life isn\'t about waiting for the storm to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain

ralu

February 08, 2010, 04:09:53 AM #272 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "IDK3MJ"

TO: RALU

again,my friend, u reminded me what is important, LOVE

i apologise fo my behaviour and words  written to Diana Jean, but this person was using cover as MJ's fan, this person was saying words against LOVE:"What in the world does believing Souza and Mo have to do with beliving in LOVE?"

i answered: in another post u will propably ask for LOVE definition or proof it really exists because u didn't find it anywhere......

i re-acted to stand on MJ's side

but u r right, it is a waste of time-there will be always some "dark" forces who would like to focus on them...not on LOVE

so ...i read your messages and thank u again for bringing into "LIGHT"

best regards,

Yvonne

Yvonne, thank you for your appreciation, dear. As for Diana Jean, I'm sure she didn't just use a cover...you see, what we need to acknowledge is that saying words doesn't necessary mean feeling them, or meanning them. When somebody is (apparently) saying words "against" love, it is in our power to provoque him/ her to speak "pro" love next time. And this would never be a waste of time ;)
I'm glad if I helped. BIG hugs.
Life isn\'t about waiting for the storm to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain

Michelle WilkieNZ

February 08, 2010, 06:07:13 AM #273 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

;) Much peace and LO.O.V.E to You all!! I have just finished watching Michael's 'Bucharest Concert' On DVD and I felt so moved I just got emotional and again and again his Mesage has always been the same and with so so much passion and honesty and integrity, L.OV.E and the world make it a better place for one and all the flowers the trees the seas and all whom endure life within it, no matter how important or small we are- we are all equal the birds and the bees and us and everyone here in our Universe!! But the passion you feel from his heart and soul, is so so very strong, that wherever he is now he is still sending out that very same message and we are very blessed that we have all realised that and are doing our very best to help him spread it!! much love peace light and happiness to You all!!
L.O.V.E  always and forever.
'A  ;) circle of L.OV.E linking us and one and all right round the world!! we can help him achieve it we can do it!! Love YOU MJ wherever YOU are -take care!!
Michelle

IDK3MJ

February 08, 2010, 07:31:34 AM #274 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Michelle WilkieNZ"

;) Dear Friend Yvonne,
Thanks so much for Your reply, I only have dial-up at the moment , is it possible to view these or do I need broadband? So may I ask,  are these videos to do with clues from past times ?? so sorry to bother You , as I really want to view them, I'll try my connection but if it doesn't work , I 'll try and seek out someone who may be able to help. Thanks so much once again for your kindness, it is lovely when someone like Yourself acknowledges posts. I feel very privelged, !! thanks again and much love and hugs!!
take care and all my love
Michelle
xoxoxo ;)

MIchelle,

on YouTube.com try to find ALONSOHELENA user, and then try to find her video called:Michael Jackson - Alive? Part 6 - Is This It?,

as i said before u may start from 6th or 7th part, watch all 13, u will have your answer....in one of them...

best regards,

Yvonne

ralu

February 08, 2010, 07:43:58 AM #275 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Michelle WilkieNZ"

;) Much peace and LO.O.V.E to You all!! I have just finished watching Michael's 'Bucharest Concert' On DVD and I felt so moved I just got emotional and again and again his Mesage has always been the same and with so so much passion and honesty and integrity, L.OV.E and the world make it a better place for one and all the flowers the trees the seas and all whom endure life within it, no matter how important or small we are- we are all equal the birds and the bees and us and everyone here in our Universe!! But the passion you feel from his heart and soul, is so so very strong, that wherever he is now he is still sending out that very same message and we are very blessed that we have all realised that and are doing our very best to help him spread it!! much love peace light and happiness to You all!!
L.O.V.E  always and forever.
'A  ;) circle of L.OV.E linking us and one and all right round the world!! we can help him achieve it we can do it!! Love YOU MJ wherever YOU are -take care!!
Michelle

Michelle, I don't have enough words to tell you how I felt actually being there during that concert. If you can feel all those vibes just watching it on DVD, just try to imagine what I felt experiancing it live. Last time I watched it a few weeks ago with my son who's 5 years old. When he asked me "Why did Michael fell down?" during the Man in the mirror, I started to explain him that this was because he just gave his all in that concert, like he always do. "How come, mommy?". And I told him that he was really serious about the meanning of his songs, that he puts his entire heart on the line while performing and he makes big efforts because he loves his fans and he wants us to feel the love, that he wants us to care for eachother and he tries to transmit this message in every single concert when he performs. Suddenly I realised that tears are allover my cheeks and my son is stareing at me with his jaw droped. Then he hugs me and tels me: now I understand why those people were crying on the concert. They were crying just like you, tears of happyness.  :)

Life isn\'t about waiting for the storm to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain

KINGdom52

February 08, 2010, 11:44:44 AM #276 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "ralu"

Michelle, I don't have enough words to tell you how I felt actually being there during that concert. If you can feel all those vibes just watching it on DVD, just try to imagine what I felt experiancing it live. Last time I watched it a few weeks ago with my son who's 5 years old. When he asked me "Why did Michael fell down?" during the Man in the mirror, I started to explain him that this was because he just gave his all in that concert, like he always do. "How come, mommy?". And I told him that he was really serious about the meanning of his songs, that he puts his entire heart on the line while performing and he makes big efforts because he loves his fans and he wants us to feel the love, that he wants us to care for eachother and he tries to transmit this message in every single concert when he performs. Suddenly I realised that tears are allover my cheeks and my son is stareing at me with his jaw droped. Then he hugs me and tels me: now I understand why those people were crying on the concert. They were crying just like you, tears of happyness.

For God's sake , you made me cry, too.
But thanks :)

Infinitylady

February 08, 2010, 12:30:23 PM #277 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
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Godhaschosenmj » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:36 am

"I'll bet you all the money in the world that most of you have never even heard of the illuminati before June 25. Ill bet that most of you weren't even interested in it until Souza&Mo posted their theory. Did you investigate it yourself, or did you just take their word for it?"
Well, I for one knew about the Illuminate, NWO, Freemasons, Jesuits, and other secret societies long before ANY hoax site was ever started!

I agree with you. I have heard about them for some time now.

mimie7659

February 08, 2010, 01:46:33 PM #278 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

je ne comprends pas tout le venus project les videos sont anglaises et non sous titres en frabncais alors je ne comprends , mais peut etre que l idee n est pas si impossible que ca si l economie est inverse et que l amour fait place a la haine tout est possible n est  ce pas , mes reves ne sont pas vains, j aimerais tellement que ca se realise enfin, tchernobyl ou la famine en afriique ............ ne devrait plus se produire bisous que dieu vous benissent

ralu

February 09, 2010, 03:03:24 AM #279 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "KINGdom52"

Quote from: "ralu"

Michelle, I don't have enough words to tell you how I felt actually being there during that concert. If you can feel all those vibes just watching it on DVD, just try to imagine what I felt experiancing it live. Last time I watched it a few weeks ago with my son who's 5 years old. When he asked me "Why did Michael fell down?" during the Man in the mirror, I started to explain him that this was because he just gave his all in that concert, like he always do. "How come, mommy?". And I told him that he was really serious about the meanning of his songs, that he puts his entire heart on the line while performing and he makes big efforts because he loves his fans and he wants us to feel the love, that he wants us to care for eachother and he tries to transmit this message in every single concert when he performs. Suddenly I realised that tears are allover my cheeks and my son is stareing at me with his jaw droped. Then he hugs me and tels me: now I understand why those people were crying on the concert. They were crying just like you, tears of happyness.

For God's sake , you made me cry, too.
But thanks :)
Oh KINGdom, you're so sweet...Sorry, wellcome, IDK what to say about this...if there were "tears of happyness" I think it's ok, isn't it?  :)
Life isn\'t about waiting for the storm to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain

Michelle WilkieNZ

February 09, 2010, 05:40:14 AM #280 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Hi Everyone!! well thanks so much Yvonne for You beautiful reply and for all the info !! thanks so much I can't wait to watch these!! much love light and peace to You!!
love Michelle
Dear Ralu and all others
thanks so much for Your reply and made me all emotional again , wow what an amazing experience it must have been so You were at Bucharest , wow the emotinal intensity You all must have felt must have been absolutely amazing and You are so right what You explained to Your son, and how intuitive and bright is he, like MJ says Children hold all the answers and lead the way and they are so perceptive!! But for Yuor son to give that absolutely amazing explanation to You and come to that conclusion, wow is all I can say I am ' Speechless' if peopel as Young as Your son can get that message then there is no reason others don't get it, I guess it comes down to those of us who choose to listen and those who choose to turn a blind eye, as with Mj even the blind can see it and the deaf can hear it, with him it's all explained to everyone no matter what Your culture of language, as with MJ there is no cultural or age barrier  as like You said his all is in every song and if You can't understand in one way his body and range of emotion shown in his body and face and spirit etc explains it to us all no matter what, it does come down to choice and I guess that is the challenge!! Well thank You so much for sharing Your beautiful and heartfelt experience with me,  I watched it agin to night to show my MUm the parts she missed  and the phone rang for her, so I watched those end song from Work Day and Night is it on wards till the end, in basically mute a tiny bit of volume , but I still got it and in fact it intensified my focus on his message and degree of emotion and I cried all over again, and especially when he woalks out in Helal the World with the children and holding the wee one's hand and then at end he embraces the Baby and my goodness that is when the tears flowed so intensely , for his beautiful embrace and how he treated acknowledging it and all those children , just resonated so deeply and truly showed the depth and integrity and humanity MJ has, and then I come here and read Your bautiful story and I feel it all again and I feel overcome with emotion and it brings tears to my eyes again.  Thank You so very much from the bottom of my heart !!! Much love to You and Your Son and family!! Wonder what he would think how he affected some lady on the other side of the world with his degree of understanding and knowing, he is amazing and obviously with the beautiful person You are it is no wonder with You as a beautifully lead example he will no doubt grow to be one amazing human being!! I am absolutley humbled by Your sharing !! thank You!! and to everyone thank You and much love light and peace to You all and strength and faith and to You  MJ where ever You are to You and YOur Children and FAmily and friends!!  oh wow I am really feeling the love of You people here and if I can  I can only imagine that MJ must where ever he is  and  anyone else . Wow  Wow thank You You beautfiul beautiful human beings is all I can say!!
and sorry one last thing, I truly have the greatest admiraton to You all out there that English is not YOur first language and Yet You all communicate so beautifully Your messages YOu all blow my mind!! I truly honestly take my hat off to You all!! You are truly amazing!!
all my love to You all and Ralu and Your precious Son and Yvonne and everyone esle
Much love and hugs
keep the faith stay strong!! and spread the love !! It is truly so very powerful and everyone must be doing an amazing job as truly now on this blog I so truly am feeling it and it is so very strong!!
Much  love peace and Happiness to You all
take care all my love and hugs
Michelle
xoxoxo ;)
New Zealand

ralu

February 09, 2010, 06:46:12 AM #281 Last Edit: February 10, 2010, 06:37:06 AM by ralu

You're so lovely Michelle, just keep going that way!
Yes, the children understand the best all these things. Because they have pure souls and they have no problem at all believing this message and expressing what they feel...as Michael so beautifully underlined it in his "Children". Unfortunatelly while we are growing up the society forces us to alterate. We are resisting to the need of playing, of experiencing childish things, of shouting when we feel happy, of saying to someone that we love him/ her, of crying, of hugging, of addmiting that a certain thing makes us emotional...and if we think about all these we can't actually find a resonable answer to the question "Why?" Why are we ashamed of all these? Because of what the "others" may think about us. They could think we are stupid, they could think we are whick, immature, pathetic. And we pay for this fake appearance with our own happyness. We try to find happyness in all the material things that are surrownding us and when we cannot find it there, we become mean, angry, even hateful, we try to put the blame on somebody or on something...And meantime the answer lays in us. When we allow ourselves to see and to undestand all these truths, we begin to spread the love and the joy around us and without even notticing, we find that happynes, that light which is contagious. Children are smart and creative and their logic is unbelieveble. We are constrained to give away those gifts while we are becomming "serious", insensitive adults...that's why is so important to encourage our children to do and to say and to act exactely how they feel as much as possible. And to fight with our whicknesses in order to do the same. When I tried to explain to my kid that there are so many children dieing of hunger and they have nothing, no toy to play with, now home, no clothes, he looked at me with sadness, then his face lighted up and he said to me "That's ok mommy, we are going to feed them, aren't we?" So can you see what Michael saw? Do you understand what a better place this world would be if we wouldn't loose all those gifts that God offers us once he sends us on this Earth as children? Exactely this kind of thoughts grown men are afraid of expressing and of transforming in facts (despite the fact that they have those thoughts), because the "others" could think they are crazy and immature....well, I'm not afraid anymore. Much love to you all.

Life isn\'t about waiting for the storm to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain

ralu

February 09, 2010, 09:17:46 AM #282 Last Edit: February 10, 2010, 06:28:31 AM by ralu

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Life isn\'t about waiting for the storm to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain

mimie7659

February 09, 2010, 10:14:49 PM #283 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/15318
ah bon il parait que c est la maison de michael , ceux qui pensent que ca lui appartient ne connaissent pas Michael cette maison est froide et impersonnelle et ne ressemble pas du tout a Michael , quand aux articles que je lis non pas que je lis les tabbloids mais je fais des recherches et qu on dise que michael faisait pipi dans des bouteilles ou des tasses, meme si c est pour se moquer de quelqu un je ne trouve pas ca rigolo du tout, docteur Klein vous abusez serieusement, meme pour detendre l atmosphere qui va trop loin je pense car les fans parfois exentriquess pourraient mettre une VIE  en peril, j espere que ca va pas aller trop loin, on a beau prendre toutes les precautions parfois on se laisse surprendre, meme si parfois les choses sont amusantes bisous de normandie france

Michelle WilkieNZ

February 10, 2010, 05:48:16 AM #284 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Deeearest Ralu
I am so very grateful to You and Your same beliefs I wholoe heartedly agree a million percent!! The Children are the way forward and all us to be like Michael and hold onto our childhood!! I think  he is the ultimate example and if we can all be jsut a bit of what he is we will bring healing and love to the world and it will conquer all!! Much love to You and if me from my end of the world in New Zealand and You (sorry not sure where YOu are from??) and everyone in between - live like children and L.O.V.E L.O.V.E L.O.V.E!! AND SPREAD THE WORD WE ARE SO VERY DEFINITELY ON TRACK TO HELP MICHAEL SPREAD HIS MESSAGE!! as positiveness has a riple effect You know like when someone laughs  and gets the ggiggles and then it catches on and everyone starts having a laugh attack!!  well they say 'Laughter is the best medicine' :D  :lol:  and pure laughter comes from the heart from a place of truth and love !!
well my love to You Your sone and everyone here and beyond!! Ralu You speak words so dear to my heart!! love  you love you love you!!
and You all here and everywhere!!
much love hugs and smiles filled with laughter !!
all my love from the bottom of my hfeart!!
Michelle
xoxoxo ;)

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