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[SeeingClues]

Hello everyone,
We discussed this in chat last night after discovering this image in a new hoax video.   After some research, the photo was linked to an EMT discussion forum - a poster named "Daphne" asked the EMT's if the ambulance looked to be an older or new one based on the photo.

At first we thought..hmm...is this the undiscovered "original" photo, or did "Daphne" photoshop the face to disguise MJ when posting.

Since it caused quite a stir in chat I wanted to open this up to all of the investigators on here.  I've tried to PM "Daphne" to inquire about the photo...
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Here is a screen shot and web address of the message board this was found on (you have to register on the site to view the post "live")

I tried to compare this photo with an existing ambulance photo I had, but the photo I had wasn't the same exact photo (not as much of the background is visible).  If anyone has an exact match of the equivalent photo with MJ, please post. Scroll to see both pics...
So one of these photos is a photoshop... which one?   The new one is either a photoshop or an old man...

[KingMJ]

That is so strange, it is exactly the same picture from what I can see, apart from the face.  It looks like the face is turned to the side, as u can still see the long black hair and what looks to be an ear.. but it is blurry?!  If it hasn't been blurred on purpose, then there is something really strange about it.... as even if it was just another shot (a new pic) from that day, surely everything around MJ (like the paramedics, their arms, bodies etc.) would be in a slightly different position too, as well as his face??

Edit: After a second look, I can't decide if the new pic 'man' actually has hair or if he is bald??  Is it a possibility that this is infact the original photo.. and it was photoshopped to hide the baldness, and a clearer image of MJ's face was put on to better prove it's him?? :?:

[Leah-Kim]

Sorry but that is the SAME picture, It is almost impossible to duplicate arms being in the exact same position , gloves, distance covering monitors in ambulance etc!!!! In my opinion this is THE SAME picture without a doubt...

[Leah-Kim]

Maybe it was never MJ in the ambulance pic but they took this photo of a random person and photoshopped it to be MJ....

[nevernevernever]

the same, IMO... look to the reflexion of the red car on the widow pane, the position of the paramedics. still, which one is real and which one is photoshoped ? hard to say. Remember the picture of J.F.Kennedy on the boat posted recently by TMZ ? some expert could not confirm if it s fake or not, and it was a fake . (or , did they really consult some experts, we never know, it s TMZ).

[Leah-Kim]

The fact on the forum the OP was referring to are debating if its an old ambulance i would say that is the original picture and MJs is photoshopped over that original.. If we can prove that the ambulance in question is an older style and if they are still in use in LA or if the registration matches the age of that vehicle i think we will be ahead in our investigation. Its worth looking into i just wouldnt know where to start!!!

[jonnysgirldangerous]

That's indeed the same picture, but it looks like someone photoshopped MJ into that body. Because that person there looks nothing alike him.

[SeeingClues]

At first I thought it was just a blurred image of the photo we know, but it does look like a bald older man with his head turned to the side.. but then where would this person get this photo?

Is there an "MJ" photo out there that has all of the background info on the right side with the monitors that this one has?

very strange...

[SunShine]

IMO...everything is same, but the face....how can the face be side wards, but the breath tube is in the exact same spot..I think the put MJ face on to it..

[bobo]

Strange indeed.

[SeeingClues]

is this the "old man" that the paramedics are quoted as working on?

[pants]

That looks like MJs closed right eye at the edge of the face just below the paramedicsbaby finger knuckle.

[SeeingClues]

That looks like MJs closed right eye at the edge of the face just below the paramedicsbaby finger knuckle.

do you think it is him w/o the wig with the head turned?

[pants]

I don't know what to think.Do you think that looks like his closed eye though?

[andrea_garay2005]

to me it looks like the first is much better quality