Audio Forensic Expert

Started by Grenat, January 03, 2010, 09:33:46 PM

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GrenatTopic starter

January 03, 2010, 09:33:46 PM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I've send several emails to audio forensics expert ,asking if for reference purposes only we could possibly be able to compare 2 voices from a recording
And one has asked me to send samples of the voices
Has one of you got a good quality version of the LKL show ?
Of course it's not because I send him two samples (One of DD on LKL and MJ) that he'll analyze it (he'll surely think : why would I lose my time for a band of crazied  and desulisional fans  :D )
But we should take the chance as we have nothing but nothing to lose
Even if the two voices don't match it doesn't mean that MJ isn't alive !


michaelsupporter

January 03, 2010, 11:24:08 PM #1 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Awesome! Way to go. I cannot wait to hear the results.

Michael Supporter
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
~Mahatma Gandhi

GrenatTopic starter

January 04, 2010, 12:03:18 AM #2 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I'm done ! I've sent the email with the two voices samples .But now I'm so stressed you know .
What if this man says that they cannot be compared ? ( audio quality)
What if he doesn't want to compare them ? ( he don't have the right to do so)
What if he ask money to compare it ?
What if they don't matches but that's because the sound quality is not good ?(we would miss a good proof)
What if they don't match at all because that's not the same person talking
Ah I'm boiling with questions now and it's my own very fault


GrenatTopic starter

January 08, 2010, 07:13:21 PM #3 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I'm sorry to double post but I've haven't a choice .
For these which were interested I just wanted to tell you
I don't know if I'm worrying too much but the man(expert) I had contacted
after I've sent him the two samples , I never got a reply
Before he used to reply to me every day , but now it have been 5 days
So I have to give it up.I'll tell you when I know something new


diane

January 09, 2010, 07:08:34 AM #4 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

MAYBE HE HAS FREAKED OUT BECAUSE IT WOULD BLOW THINGS OUT OF THE WATER WOULDNT IT!!! DONT WORRY.....WE ALL AGREE WITH YOU.......I TRULY BELIEVW DD IS MJ.........AND I AM TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE WHO WILL LIP READ THESE PEOPLE ON THE VIDEOS OF THE FUNERAL.....I FEEL SURE IT COULD HELP.......DO YOU KNOW ANYONE ???....XX DIANE


Alem (Thetruth)

January 09, 2010, 07:15:31 AM #5 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Grenat"

I'm sorry to double post but I've haven't a choice .
For these which were interested I just wanted to tell you
I don't know if I'm worrying too much but the man(expert) I had contacted
after I've sent him the two samples , I never got a reply
Before he used to reply to me every day , but now it have been 5 days
So I have to give it up.I'll tell you when I know something new

Don't worry, let time tell.

All he wanted was the mountain high
Beyond these boundaries,he wanted to fly
In nature\'s scheme,never to die
– MJ



www.twitter.com/alem_mj

GrenatTopic starter

January 16, 2010, 09:24:53 PM #6 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
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MAYBE HE HAS FREAKED OUT BECAUSE IT WOULD BLOW THINGS OUT OF THE WATER WOULDNT IT!!! DONT WORRY.....WE ALL AGREE WITH YOU.......I TRULY BELIEVW DD IS MJ.........AND I AM TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE WHO WILL LIP READ THESE PEOPLE ON THE VIDEOS OF THE FUNERAL.....I FEEL SURE IT COULD HELP.......DO YOU KNOW ANYONE ???....XX DIANE

I find it strange that this man never answered back . I tried at a later time and I never got a answer...I don't know why..myself I really tought that maybe he reallys has freaked out...It's a little over-the top thinking but I don't see any other reasons , he used to answer to me the same day and all of sudden when I send him the tapes he never answer again.
I don't understand.I tried on two experts , one asked 3500$ :D  and the other one totally ignored me after I sent him the tapes
Maybe the other one would have ignored me if I had sent him as well.
What do you think ?
As for lip-reading...there has to be experts as well
Or maybe someone on a forum(not Michael-related one) who should be able to do that , I'll try to search for it.But the problem would be the video has to quite good quality because if not he wouldn't be able to catch everything   :|
I'll tell you about it if I find one

ILOVEMJ

January 25, 2010, 07:38:26 PM #7 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I asked my uncle because he can read lips really well and is a phycologist, he said that Dave Daves vernacular and pronunciation are extremely similar to that of Michael jackson, and that it is highly possible that it could be michael based on the facial expression and the way he pronounces the letter "S" cause their similar to Michael's

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Kirsche

January 26, 2010, 07:11:28 AM #8 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "ILOVEMJ"

I asked my uncle because he can read lips really well and is a phycologist, he said that Dave Daves vernacular and pronunciation are extremely similar to that of Michael jackson, and that it is highly possible that it could be michael based on the facial expression and the way he pronounces the letter "S" cause their similar to Michael's

That's what I've always said!!! The way he says the "S"!!

I told you :D  :lol:

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OKAY, EVERBODY! THAT\'S A WRAP!

liegi

January 26, 2010, 07:24:54 AM #9 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I watched the video again.  Another thing Dave Dave does is move his mouth around like Michael did (this is at the beginning of the tape).  Compare to the Geraldo interview.
Also he says several things which are significant:

a.  what caused this--my father's criminality (Joe Jackson)
b.  I did this to escape my father's legacy
c.  the fire--the cause--could this refer to the Pepsi commercial which caused far more pain and damage than previously imagined?


GrenatTopic starter

January 26, 2010, 10:44:55 AM #10 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
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I asked my uncle because he can read lips really well and is a phycologist, he said that Dave Daves vernacular and pronunciation are extremely similar to that of Michael jackson, and that it is highly possible that it could be michael based on the facial expression and the way he pronounces the letter "S" cause their similar to Michael's

Oh that's great and nice of your uncle to have taken his time to analyze this !
It seems to be great results for us,right ? The best of course would have been to be able to prove this by an expert....but well he never answered !
And another thing( a little related),I watched a video by a french believer,and she talked about Dave Dave and how the people that think the LKL's one isn't Michael because the voice isn't exactly the same...In her video she showed 2 phones conversations,in it Michael change his voice completely !
If you want to see it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95dRmpf9oAw
the first one is at 05:14, someone from a radio show attempt to fram him and when he find out he change his voice
The second one start at 07:02,he imitate his dad's voice.
Of course it doesn't prove anything,but telling it's not DD because the voice sound the same but is a little different...(some people said that)
So it's possible that even if the voice isn't quite right it's still Michael on LKL !

Kirsche

January 26, 2010, 12:15:03 PM #11 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Grenat"

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I asked my uncle because he can read lips really well and is a phycologist, he said that Dave Daves vernacular and pronunciation are extremely similar to that of Michael jackson, and that it is highly possible that it could be michael based on the facial expression and the way he pronounces the letter "S" cause their similar to Michael's

Oh that's great and nice of your uncle to have taken his time to analyze this !
It seems to be great results for us,right ? The best of course would have been to be able to prove this by an expert....but well he never answered !
And another thing( a little related),I watched a video by a french believer,and she talked about Dave Dave and how the people that think the LKL's one isn't Michael because the voice isn't exactly the same...In her video she showed 2 phones conversations,in it Michael change his voice completely !
If you want to see it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95dRmpf9oAw
the first one is at 05:14, someone from a radio show attempt to fram him and when he find out he change his voice
The second one start at 07:02,he imitate his dad's voice.
Of course it doesn't prove anything,but telling it's not DD because the voice sound the same but is a little different...(some people said that)
So it's possible that even if the voice isn't quite right it's still Michael on LKL !
WHOA!! It is fascinatin how fast he can change his voice into a complete different voice....I always knew he could go very deep and very high and that but I didn't know that he can IMITATE other voices...... WOW!!! :shock:
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OKAY, EVERBODY! THAT\'S A WRAP!

GrenatTopic starter

January 30, 2010, 05:13:26 AM #12 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

You heard the video ?you see, It's not a valid argument to say that it's not him because of the voice ! Because anyone can change his voice to extremely high to extremely high and he is a genius so he can probably do it better.
That's a bit unrelated but it probablu him on O2 as well,many are doubting it but...As you heard he can impersonate voice and he is good at disguise and imitating people too (it has already been proven before)so saying it's not him because of mannerisms an voice...well
And this applies to DD too of course !Have you seen last MJFanForeverAndADay ?
It's all about Dave Dave,it's point we've seen before but it's interesting.
She pose her theory as to why he would have done it on the day of his funeral particulary.


Java

April 09, 2010, 03:43:47 PM #13 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Kirsche"

Quote from: "Grenat"

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I asked my uncle because he can read lips really well and is a phycologist, he said that Dave Daves vernacular and pronunciation are extremely similar to that of Michael jackson, and that it is highly possible that it could be michael based on the facial expression and the way he pronounces the letter "S" cause their similar to Michael's

Oh that's great and nice of your uncle to have taken his time to analyze this !
It seems to be great results for us,right ? The best of course would have been to be able to prove this by an expert....but well he never answered !
And another thing( a little related),I watched a video by a french believer,and she talked about Dave Dave and how the people that think the LKL's one isn't Michael because the voice isn't exactly the same...In her video she showed 2 phones conversations,in it Michael change his voice completely !
If you want to see it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95dRmpf9oAw
the first one is at 05:14, someone from a radio show attempt to fram him and when he find out he change his voice
The second one start at 07:02,he imitate his dad's voice.
Of course it doesn't prove anything,but telling it's not DD because the voice sound the same but is a little different...(some people said that)
So it's possible that even if the voice isn't quite right it's still Michael on LKL !
WHOA!! It is fascinatin how fast he can change his voice into a complete different voice....I always knew he could go very deep and very high and that but I didn't know that he can IMITATE other voices...... WOW!!! :shock:
You've never seen ghost?
[youtube:1yufmnjb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhZxqy1ToWk[/youtube:1yufmnjb]

This link is the making off.  The entire finished film is about 40 minutes and worth the watch.  New and fresh material as always from Michael.  There are abbreviated versions of the film.


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