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He did not turn into a "white man",he became a black man with white skin,its not really that complicated.he was always black.Yes he had a really nice skin tone before so would be extremely devasted as well if i had to turn pigmentless.I want to hear your explanation about the mental disorder for the white woman comment though.it was kind of shocking for me to read,like those kind of things make it appear that there was seriously something wrong with mr michael.i understand why people would be offended by it.

Don't take it that literally, it was meant the way the media addressed it: Michael Jackson turned from a black man into a white woman. It has been said many times. Sow WE do not mean he is a white woman now, we are explaining the white (see previous post) and the female side (as alter ego). Again: we are not claiming Mike is a woman (I can't really believe how you come up with that) but the vitiligo and the alter egos are caused by things they have done to him.
You can say whatever you want, but I will never believe that if a black man slowly turns white (ON THE OUTSIDE), that he can just 'brush that off'. I did not turn black all of the suden and I think most of people here did not experience that, so I think it is a bit easy to say that he could have just 'brushed it of'.
And I can understand it's shocking to hear, but we DO think there was something wrong with him. Having alter egos is not normal and can effect your life in a bad way. It's not his fault, it was a result of the abuse and the controlling. Also, we think he is better now, like GirlSaturday said the therapy is 'merging'. For what we have seen with Sybil, it means that the main person (Mike) needs to 'meet' his alter egos and accept them, so they won't take over anymore, but will keep your 'skills' for you to use. The main person normally does not know about the alters, while the alters do know about the existing of the others.
It's hard toexplain and I hope I did well, since I am not a psychiatrist. You shouls watch Sybil.

Again and I hope for the last time: we are not here to diss Mike, please read the blog, we want people to understand.
:shock:  err i read the blog finally now.when i read the part about the penguin person being a woman i kind of chuckled. :lol: not that i don't take it seriously,that part was just funny for some reason.yes i understand what you are saying but i don't get the bolded part. like it just seems like a weird comparison.people turning black?even though mj was given this skin changing thing on purpose or whatever/inflicted on him by the illuminati,there actually IS a disease called vitiligo that people get  which unless they were purposely(?) infected too :? .
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Jennie

Ok, 1st of all, I'll be honest and say I didn't read the 4 pages of replies I only read a few on the 1st page.This being said, I may have replied to this last nightj real quickly cause it was 3:30 AM when I read the blog so sorry if I am reposting but I really dont think so.

I would like to thank Mo and Souza for posting this blog and all the others they have posted. I love reading your blogs because they are always so very well researched and explained. Wether we agree with all of them or not at least we always see where they are coming from so I dont think people should bash them like they do.

IMO I think there is some potential to this theory, because it never sat well with me the difference in Michael's manerisms and behavior onstage and offstage. Please do not bash me as well for saying this, I am not saying there was anything wrong or not with how Michael was...

It also got me thinking, in TII during   They dont really care about us   there is mention of    The biggest liberation in the histoy of our nation    or something along those lines. Well I would have to agree that if Michael was under the control of Illuminatti or NWO or...   it definetly would be the biggest liberation a person could achieve. That could also be why we are going to see Michael as we have never seen him before... FREE... to be who he truly is without anymore fear or control... dunno just throing ideas out there.

Bottom line, I dont like the theory but I think it could have some potential and thank you Mo and Souza for not always being too polite as to not say certain things that need to be considered or at least looked at just to avoid offending anybody including Michael if it turned out to be false. That is what investigating is, exploring every possible avenue until all the false ones have been exhausted and the truth is found.

Great job to the 2 of you in that department. :geek:
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Recently, an Illuminati slave, also stated that Elvis was an Illuminati slave. Cisco points out that Elvis’ twin brother was dead at his birth, and that Elvis knew that this gave him double spiritual power (according to Illuminati beliefs). The Illuminati will often kill a twin, so that the other will get the power of two souls
this stood out to me...for obvious reasons

i was also wondering about the black and white lyrics because i had seen a clip of the extended version where he is basicly saying f-off to the illuminati and that made me think of the lyrics.." i aint scared of you brother...ect" which never made sense if it was a love song about a girl

i do believe what you guys have said and it all makes sense, i know people want to think that its a bunch of bs but really look at the logic of all this and put it all together. plus think about how many celebs have alter egos
mariah=mimi...plus the butterflys
beyonce=sasha fierce
eminen=slim shady
jay-z=hova
kanye=mr west
christina augiulara=x-tina
*how could i forget chris gaines aka garth brooks...he was one of the first people to seperate the 2 alter egos
i mean i could go on and on plus there alters are always darker and/or more sexual so this does not only applie to mike. there is actually a guy who does "alter ego" photo shoots in atlanta for celebrities here is vivicas

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coincident that it has a good person, in white and a bad, in black? i think not

but to conclude this all goes along with everthing i have been looking into and im glad that i am on the right track

and one last thing..i had an argument with a co work who was trying to tell me mike was gay and she says to me " in the 80s my man was in the nba and he said when mike was high he was turn into a girl, she had a name but i forgot"  :o i thought she was full of it

Just wondering if you have any more info about what your friend said about Michael being high. Are you talking about recreational drugs or what?
idk and i didnt ask because as soon as she said that i was done talking to her :lol:
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Hi Mo and Souza,

I must thank you from the bottom of my heart for this blog.  Finally the truth is out.. making things in to a taboo is how the abuse can continue.  Don't be disheartened by the negative comments, i'm sure you both understand that this is a lot to take in and is heart breaking.  Sometimes the fear makes us bury our heads in the sand and pretend it isn't happening.  So its easy to understand the people who are reacting very negatively to this.  Hopefully one day the majority will accept this so it can stop!  Lots of love to you both xx
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May cause- Abnormal Dreams, Agitation, Amorous Behavior, Anxiety, Bucking/Jerking/Thrashing, Chills/Shivering/Clonic/Myoclonic Movement, Combativeness, Confusion, Delirium, Depression, Dizziness, Emotional Lability, Euphoria, Fatigue, Hallucinations, Headache, Hypotonia, Hysteria, Insomnia, Moaning, Neuropathy, Opisthotonos, Rigidity, Seizures, Somnolence, Tremor, Twitching.

Mo, this is fascinating subject matter.  I will have to read it a couple of times through before it will settle properly in my feeble mind!  :D  I bought the most interesting DVD series on MJ last Saturday entitled Thanks for the Music (I think that is the correct title).  The music critics mentioned that MJ lost alot of his wider audience with songs like Scream and They Really Don't Care About Us because of the angry in his music.  After reading your blog about the Illuminati, these songs take on more importance to me.  I will continue to research the Illuminati more.  I really think you have hit upon something here.  Very enlightening post, well-said!

I do think that MJ is extremely smart chap! I think he could pull anything off.  Mo, does NOI fit into the Illuminati theory anywhere.  Have you ever heard about Louis Farrakhan's speech, “The Crucifixion of Michael Jackson and All Responsible Black Leadership.”  I am interested in what you think, MO.
Thank you!
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You rocked my world, you know you did
And everything I own I give
The rarest love who\'d think I\'d find
Someone like you to call mine




"Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation."
------Michael Jackson


Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. --Oscar Wilde

sorry, I dont agree with this...erm...theory.
I will refrain myself for now, but after I read it I felt...well...disgusted to tell you the truth.
I dont know what is going on here, but I'm actually afraid of the things I'm seeing.
Michael fought so much against this...its almost as if I was reading tabloid disguised as something else.
I have the right to my own opinion, right? So...no...I dont agree at all with this.
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so you are saying he is not going to come back....or is he waiting for the world to come together and realize what is going on and then come back hehe and he will have all of us behind him and on his side or what does this mean?
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Is it true that Dr. Murray is part of the Freemasonry, i thought i heard that somewhere on another forum? :?  :shock:
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WOW! this is a very controversal issue and it's a lot to take in. I wish I could post my comment about it but I am going to need some time to process this.
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We were contacted by someone who asked us if we wanted to end up like Evan Chandler for publishing a blog about Mike/Mind Control & Illuminati,

Does it mean that someone threatened you ? If that's the case that's because you are really close to the truth,right ? I hope you're not going to get into trouble  :shock:
I've seen the video with the explanations,
Altough watching it before I found it to be a nice video to watch (even if it was a little weird ) now it makes really sense with all thoses explanations.
I hope that he has escaped...But can we escape from the Illuminati tough ?
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I dont believe what I'm reading. People who dont believe the admins theory are faced with a brick wall of members and admin who straight away assume the person has no intelligence and has not "done their homework" <-- Disgraceful comment coming from an "admin".
If the admin of this site had done their homework they would know there is a lot more to it than what they have written, and most of what they've written is wrong.
This is not because I "dont believe in the illuminati/NWO" because I do so dont throw that back in my face as protection for your sites admin as it wont work.
Reading articles and watching films doesnt give you inside knowledge or psychological knowledge. The owners of this site are not psychologists (Although they may not claim to be it is still wrong) and shouldnt be feeding their members this stuff which you believe and praise the admin for.

Step outside of this forum if you want to learn about NWO, Illuminati and the connection with Michael Jackson. Do your own research

Dont be put down when people tell you you are stupid for not believing. READ! Then you will know part of the real truth behind it, and not what's being fed by two girls who have no idea what they're raving about.
I wonder how long this comment will be allowed to stay here for before it/I am removed.

It may be a "theory" but the theories you are writing appear full of truth to people who know nothing about it, putting them on a public forum is wrong. People put trust into a sites admin and you are misusing it!

Speak to doctors and psychologists, not the owners of a forum. Think logically before you put blind faith into people behind a computer screen.
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LIBERIAN GIRL
The admin worked very hard on this blog, and they are positing this purely as a THEORY on their part.
If you have any specific or specialist knowledge on MK Ultra, Mind Control , the Illuminati agenda or the NWO do you have a specific blog or site of yours to which you can direct us , in order that you can share this  wide knowledge of yours with us?

Mo , Souza and all here, thanks for the efforts you make, if we didn't take chances , if we didn't at least TRY to articulate  beliefs. if we didn't express our opinions then we would just be SHUT UP by the kind of criticism that would have us believe we have no right to express views we are not 'qualified' to.
Freedom and Liberty are being eroded daily, in the most insidious ways. One way to shut people up is to discredit or ridicule them..  but then we've seen that happen to a man called Michael Jackson haven't we?

Gabriel
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~Souza~

Quote from: "Liberiangirl2010"
I dont believe what I'm reading. People who dont believe the admins theory are faced with a brick wall of members and admin who straight away assume the person has no intelligence and has not "done their homework" <-- Disgraceful comment coming from an "admin".
If the admin of this site had done their homework they would know there is a lot more to it than what they have written, and most of what they've written is wrong.
This is not because I "dont believe in the illuminati/NWO" because I do so dont throw that back in my face as protection for your sites admin as it wont work.
Reading articles and watching films doesnt give you inside knowledge or psychological knowledge. The owners of this site are not psychologists (Although they may not claim to be it is still wrong) and shouldnt be feeding their members this stuff which you believe and praise the admin for.

Step outside of this forum if you want to learn about NWO, Illuminati and the connection with Michael Jackson. Do your own research

Dont be put down when people tell you you are stupid for not believing. READ! Then you will know part of the real truth behind it, and not what's being fed by two girls who have no idea what they're raving about.
I wonder how long this comment will be allowed to stay here for before it/I am removed.

It may be a "theory" but the theories you are writing appear full of truth to people who know nothing about it, putting them on a public forum is wrong. People put trust into a sites admin and you are misusing it!

Speak to doctors and psychologists, not the owners of a forum. Think logically before you put blind faith into people behind a computer screen.

First of all, you are entitled to your own opinion so your post will not be deleted.

We have stated I think 4!! times that this is a theory, maybe you missed that.

Also we never claimed to be psychologists, but we are not idiots either. We spent a LOT of time into this and I can assure you, it's no bull shit, the information is accurate and the link to Mike is not far fetched at all.

You may not agree with the fact that this is related to Mike, but that does not give you the right to belittle and bash us. It's a theory and people on this board are able to think for themselves, YOU are saying they are stupid with your post, not us. And YOU are stating this is BS, so who is the one here pretending to have the truth? Not us, YOU. Take a look in the mirror girl.

Funny thing is, that at first you claim we can't be psycologists by reading up, but then you advise members to go read and investigate themselves. So we can't get accurate info on the web or other sources, but the rest of the members can? Please explain.

Your comment is not helpful at all. Disagreement is fine, but explain WHY this can't be true, that is called discussion. What you are doing is bashing and accusing and since you are way smarter than the members apparently, because you do your own research (not my words guys, just a conclusion I get from her post), I would expect a more intelligent post with arguments.

Try to discuss with a little more grace next time, or I will remove you from this board. And no, not because you have a different opinion, but because your attitude is not suitable for the atmosphere of this forum.
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found something interesting check this out  :idea:

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~Souza~

Quote from: "Gabriel Walker"
LIBERIAN GIRL
The admin worked very hard on this blog, and they are positing this purely as a THEORY on their part.
If you have any specific or specialist knowledge on MK Ultra, Mind Control , the Illuminati agenda or the NWO do you have a specific blog or site of yours to which you can direct us , in order that you can share this  wide knowledge of yours with us?

Mo , Souza and all here, thanks for the efforts you make, if we didn't take chances , if we didn't at least TRY to articulate  beliefs. if we didn't express our opinions then we would just be SHUT UP by the kind of criticism that would have us believe we have no right to express views we are not 'qualified' to.
Freedom and Liberty are being eroded daily, in the most insidious ways. One way to shut people up is to discredit or ridicule them..  but then we've seen that happen to a man called Michael Jackson haven't we?

Gabriel

Thank you Gabriel, you are always a voice of reason, and you are up early! No sacks under the eyes?
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