Is Michael in danger really? And what about Murray?

[steffmaster1]

what im confused with too is if there were threats wouldnt there still be them if he came back? i want him to come back more than ever the person to see this love for him but wont there still be threats and what will he have achieved unless the people who did this are being dealt with by the FBI and thats why michael had to disappear so there was no way of getting him but just hope hes still gonna be safe when he returns!! :?  :!:  :!:

[MJLover1990]

Like I've said before I think Michael had to do this because someone wanted him out of the way, Maybe he knows more about things I don't know but if he had to do this he certainly would maybe have been pushed to expose his kids to the world maybe he had no other choice.

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

Read the following. It was posted on the old MJKIT by Bec about MJ revealed his children....it makes perfect sense.

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[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

I believe MJ was in danger as well. Alot of people say he wouldnt fake his death cus he wouldnt do that to his kids....well HE WOULD do that to his kids...only to protect THEM. If these people who wanted MJ dead were serious, then they would be willing to kill anyone who stood in their way...including children. I know that sounds disturbing...and it is.....but think about it. MJ knew how dangerous these people were who wanted him dead and he knew they would stop at nothing to make him go away. Plant a car bomb designed for MJ only and the next time he gets in the car, its with his kids in tow to go shopping....turn the key and BOOM....all done. These people dont mess around. Im not kidding...MJ had a very good reason to be terrified.
A certain person on here said that MJ loved his children lots but he wouldnt love them to death.
That menas he loved them enough to leave them behind. To keep them safe and out of harms way. Even if it meant he may never see them again. He loved them THAT much.

[Eva R]

I believe MJ was in danger as well. Alot of people say he wouldnt fake his death cus he wouldnt do that to his kids....well HE WOULD do that to his kids...only to protect THEM. If these people who wanted MJ dead were serious, then they would be willing to kill anyone who stood in their way...including children. I know that sounds disturbing...and it is.....but think about it. MJ knew how dangerous these people were who wanted him dead and he knew they would stop at nothing to make him go away. Plant a car bomb designed for MJ only and the next time he gets in the car, its with his kids in tow to go shopping....turn the key and BOOM....all done. These people dont mess around. Im not kidding...MJ had a very good reason to be terrified.
A certain person on here said that MJ loved his children lots but he wouldnt love them to death.
That menas he loved them enough to leave them behind. To keep them safe and out of harms way. Even if it meant he may never see them again. He loved them THAT much.

I agree completely! I just hope that if he were in danger and he maybe knows who brought him in danger, the police is after those person(s)

[LiberianGirl]

Personally, i have been viewing all these death hoax forums and keeping up to date, and i've seen all the videos especially the ones by painogames, he is truly amazing and he is gonna solve this in the end i know it. My opinion is that MJ DID fake his death and i think he had plenty of reasons that don;t include his health. Here is my List of Reasons why MJ would do this,

#1 - Michael has been in the spotlight for over 40 years, and for all those years he has not had one single ounce of privacy, everything he does, everything he says, he is watched, and followed by paparatzzi, that is no way for anyone to live no matter how big a star you are, There is only so much a person can take, he may be Michael Jackson but he is still HUMAN. He could have wanted to finally have some privacy , i mean after all he has given to the world for years and decades, he deserves some fucking peace and quiet for ONCE.

#2 - Michael had bad people around him, working for him, controlling him. He was barely even in control of his own life, everything was decided for him. like he was some robot that didn't have a mind, & there were A LOT of bad people that hated him for some reason wether it was jealousy, or they wanted revenge for being fired or something, there were a lot of bad people around him that wanted to hurt him and kill him, and Michael KNEW that, and he was very scared and paranoid, if he picked up a water bottle and the lid was loose he would freak out and get a new one, he has even said to his sisters that he knows people are after him and he would constantly repeat " there gonna kill me, they are after me"  He was a very scared man and he knew people wanted to get him. There fore causing him to want to escape and get away from those people, if they think he is dead they no longer will have to hurt him right? Michael could have wanted to escape those bad people.

#3- THIS IS IT - 50 fucking shows, are you kidding me, Michael was 50 years old, i don't care how great he is, at 50 no one NO ONE can handle that many shows, and its bad enough that Michael wasn't sleeping, and he was taking drugs and mis using them, and YES he was being administered drugs weather you believe it or not , He also hadn't been eating right, anyone else notice how think he was in this is it, he claimed that was his regular dance weight, but it wasnt we grew up with him, he know that man has never been that thin, there fore on top of all that, they wanted him and expected him to do 50 shows??? are you kidding me, i don;t care how amazing he is, we know he can still dance at 50 but 50 shows is just to excessive, it's too much even for mj. He may have been fairly healthy which i believe he was, but thats too much for a 50 year old man to handle. So maybe this was the biggest reason, maybe Michael wanted to escape for a little while to get himself back together, you know, get over the drugs and fix his life and get back into the zone. Everybody needs time. and Maybe Michael wasn;t prepared for what was expected maybe he needed more time. I think within time he wil come back, but we as the fans need to show him that we still stand by him and that we love him & we want him to be happy, but most importantly we want him to be SAFE, and HEALTHY. we don;t want to lose him for real now do we? and if had gone on with the 50 shows in the state he was in. he could have died for real. there was too much pressure. So guys continue to beLIEve and stand by him, and when he is ready he shall thrill the world once more. But this time, he will be better than EVER. Shamone now , we all know he;s still got it he just has to find it Michael i love you, and i stand by you, get better, relax, take your time, i will wait patiently for you to come back to us, and i can;t wait until you thrill us all again <3 There's a reason he remains the king of pop <3 I Love you more

I agree with you on the 3rd part but I don't on the 1st and 2nd. First of, Michael wasn't that much in the spotlight lately and paparazzi wasn't following him much. If he wanted to escape from the media he would have done this hoax long time ago, not when the media started to forget him.

Second of all, if Michael was really scared and trying to run away from those people who were trying to kill him, he would never ever leave so many clues behind that scream he is alive! If we found out the clues, those people could easily find them too. He would think about it.

But I totally agree with you on the third part. I never thought that he would do 50 shows. Actually I never thought that TII were meant to be concerts. I think it was all just for the movie

[LiberianGirl]

I do believe that if MJ did hoax his death, the only plausible reason, in my eyes, is danger to himself...or something else very drastic that made it necessary. But I also believe that if MJ is really dead, then his death was no accident. It was murder. I'm not sure I'd buy into the mega-conspiracy theories that are out there. But if he is dead, I just don't believe it as just the result of a bumbling doctor.

I also really don't believe MJ ever intended to do 50 shows. I do believe he signed a contract that committed him to a minimum of 31 shows, and possibly more. But I don't believe he intended to do 50. Since only the first like 13 shows or something were insured, I think it's possible that he never planned to do more than that. He could still have the satisfaction of knowing he completely sold out 50 shows at the O2, which set an all time record for that arena! But I just feel like he planned to to the initial group of shows and that is it. Had he gone to England, the rest of the shows would have been cancelled...or maybe just even rescheduled. Who knows.

I never believe he's dead. No one else could give all those clues except Michael himself. Why would they bother giving us clues if they killed Michael already?

[LiberianGirl]

I believe MJ was in danger as well. Alot of people say he wouldnt fake his death cus he wouldnt do that to his kids....well HE WOULD do that to his kids...only to protect THEM. If these people who wanted MJ dead were serious, then they would be willing to kill anyone who stood in their way...including children. I know that sounds disturbing...and it is.....but think about it. MJ knew how dangerous these people were who wanted him dead and he knew they would stop at nothing to make him go away. Plant a car bomb designed for MJ only and the next time he gets in the car, its with his kids in tow to go shopping....turn the key and BOOM....all done. These people dont mess around. Im not kidding...MJ had a very good reason to be terrified.
A certain person on here said that MJ loved his children lots but he wouldnt love them to death.
That menas he loved them enough to leave them behind. To keep them safe and out of harms way. Even if it meant he may never see them again. He loved them THAT much.

He could leave them behind without showing their faces to the media. It doesn't make sense to me still. It's my opinion of course

[LiberianGirl]

Ok thank you for the explaination
And you mean a trial that would find Murray not guilty? Because the contrary would be impossible to do I think lol
Otherwise well...I don't know, could be difficult to make it real but who knows... everything seem so fake for us but the other people actually believe it so ... . Personally, If I were a non believer that would be not enough for me  :x it may angers me more because it would be an homocide without a guilty ... it would even be more frustrating ...but it's just my opinion  :roll:

Like q0txciityl0ve wrote it would be a "fake" trial but I don't know if they will find him guilty or not. Did you watch the vid of Murray's trial about his kid? It was fake too. There was some money on the table and on that money there was a face of Gilda That's the reason why I thought they could make another fake trial about the death case But hope they don't because that means that Michael is not coming back.

[watthhel]

I believe MJ was in danger as well. Alot of people say he wouldnt fake his death cus he wouldnt do that to his kids....well HE WOULD do that to his kids...only to protect THEM. If these people who wanted MJ dead were serious, then they would be willing to kill anyone who stood in their way...including children. I know that sounds disturbing...and it is.....but think about it. MJ knew how dangerous these people were who wanted him dead and he knew they would stop at nothing to make him go away. Plant a car bomb designed for MJ only and the next time he gets in the car, its with his kids in tow to go shopping....turn the key and BOOM....all done. These people dont mess around. Im not kidding...MJ had a very good reason to be terrified.
A certain person on here said that MJ loved his children lots but he wouldnt love them to death.
That menas he loved them enough to leave them behind. To keep them safe and out of harms way. Even if it meant he may never see them again. He loved them THAT much.

Sounds most believable for me. But that would mean: no comeback. But what about the disguises (Vid. Halloween with Liz and the kids etc.)? Ppl who wants to kill him are not stupidly. They can catch them, if he is going around in some disguises. Sorry, its difficult for me to explain in english what I mean.
Are completely in disorder with the thought now.
I dont need a comeback - if: YEAH! But I would like to know him well WITH his kids
But maybe you are right and they are separate for years.
Perhaps that is the reason why Paris looks mostly so badly, if it notices someone makes a photo.

What a sad/bad world

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

I believe MJ was in danger as well. Alot of people say he wouldnt fake his death cus he wouldnt do that to his kids....well HE WOULD do that to his kids...only to protect THEM. If these people who wanted MJ dead were serious, then they would be willing to kill anyone who stood in their way...including children. I know that sounds disturbing...and it is.....but think about it. MJ knew how dangerous these people were who wanted him dead and he knew they would stop at nothing to make him go away. Plant a car bomb designed for MJ only and the next time he gets in the car, its with his kids in tow to go shopping....turn the key and BOOM....all done. These people dont mess around. Im not kidding...MJ had a very good reason to be terrified.
A certain person on here said that MJ loved his children lots but he wouldnt love them to death.
That menas he loved them enough to leave them behind. To keep them safe and out of harms way. Even if it meant he may never see them again. He loved them THAT much.

He could leave them behind without showing their faces to the media. It doesn't make sense to me still. It's my opinion of course

Did you read the link I posted at 9:19am?

[Jude]

Murray is a patsy

[liril]

I do believe that if MJ did hoax his death, the only plausible reason, in my eyes, is danger to himself...or something else very drastic that made it necessary. But I also believe that if MJ is really dead, then his death was no accident. It was murder. I'm not sure I'd buy into the mega-conspiracy theories that are out there. But if he is dead, I just don't believe it as just the result of a bumbling doctor.

exactly...when i try to imagine how Michael would justify the hoax, something serious as a threat to his life comes out as the answer , though i am completely ignorant about the laws in the U.S and don't know whether such a thing would serve as a sufficient justification. But for months people have been discussing the Witness Protection Program and all so I was waiting for a news that could hint that Michael had some threat to his life. Now suddenly the FBI Files have revealed that. As I've said before I don't know much about the legality of the whole thing but the revelation has come as a  desired piece of information.....so considering my little knowledge, the threat theory works for me

[Whitesocks]

Believe in magic

Love Overcomes Virtually Everything

[LiberianGirl]

Let me write a script. Ok here I go.

I'm a very famous and wealthy person. And I have kids. Some people threat me and I decide to go the police.  FBI offered me to get into the witness protection program. They would give me and my family protection. First of, way before I start the hoax thing, I would send my kids to a secret secure place where they would be protected by FBI agents because of the protection program. And then I fake my death but I wouldn't involve noone to the fake death. And most importantly I would never ever leave any clues behind that prove I'm still alive. Because this is my life in danger and those people can anytime hurt my kids too, so it's also their lives in danger. So I would never leave any clues behind because those people can find them easily. And that would put my and my kids' lives in danger again. I fake my death and then leave and go to that secret safe place and keep on living with my kids until the police arrests those dangerous people. And if they can arrest them, I would come back to the public and tell that I'm alive still.

What Michael did was very opposite to this situation. He could send the kids to a safe place in the protection of FBI. And he left so many clues and the hoax sites and videos are all over. So those people already learned that he's still alive. And this put him and his kids's lives in danger. I don't believe that Michael would feel like when the kids are in front of the eyes, they can be protected. No, he would do something really important to protect them, he wouldn't put them in front of the eyes.

BUT this is my script of course and what I would do if I was Michael I don't know what Michael wrote for his script