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What does the Illuminati stand for, what is their ultimate goal? I mean we can imply they're pushing for mind control of the masses but how do we know we don't already "agree" with their ends despite the fact that we disagree with their means? we presume the Illuminati is against what "we" believe but we all disagree on everything. Lady Gaga's "role" is perhaps the most interesting, is she pioneering for the Illuminati or creating awareness to be against it? Does her pro-LGBT message dictate her anti-Illuminati affiliation or pro? Is the Illuminati working with any religion (Christianity in particular) or against all of them? Why are "they" after Michael? Is the goal going to be something along the lines of brave new world (Conservative fear) or some sort of Utilitarian Fascist Dystopia (Liberal fear)? Is the atheistic perspective correct and that Religion will be the force to control people? Is Obama (and the previous presidents for that matter) working with them?Something to think about
Hi, Son.Perhaps others have an opinion to offer in answer to these questions, but here’s mine. While it would be nice to know the ultimate goal of the Illuminati or TPTB and what they stand for, the bottom line is that it doesn’t matter. The key is to live above that level of consciousness. I’ll explain. I happen to be a Harry Potter fan, having read all the books and, with the exception of the latest, viewed all the movies. Some of my extended family, on the other hand, will have nothing to do with anything Harry Potter, saying it is against their Christian beliefs (and undoubtedly, there are other Christians who beg to differ). In fact, when the first Harry Potter book came out, these family members of mine, along with other Christians in the metropolitan area in which they live, participated in a major public protest against the book. In the aforementioned situation with the Harry Potter book, “religion” is the motivating force or source of control. However, that “force”—holding the idea that Harry Potter books are somehow “bad or of the devil” and the decision to participate in a consequent protest—is a personal choice. The key is to recognize, through conscious attention, that the thought process (i.e., the opinion about the book) is a choice as opposed to being an inherent or natural belief. This brings back the concept discussed so often within the MJDHI forum: “Do you think for yourself?” Thinking for oneself involves functioning from a completely different level of consciousness, one based on conscious attention as opposed to fear. This conscious attention consists of attempting to be continually aware of why we think and behave the way we do down to the minutest level. For example, again, you spoke about religion being a potential controlling force. Oftentimes, we only believe in a particular religion as a result of where in the world we happened to have been born and the consequent culture we were taught. In other words, “religion” is not inherent (i.e., it’s not something we’re born with; rather, it’s something we’re taught), and by the same token, also not inherent are the beliefs pushed on us by other types of external influences like the goals of the Illuminati! (Now, just fyi, I happen to believe that we are all particles of God, that the kingdom of God is a personal one within us and, as such, that kingdom has nothing to do with anyone outside of personal Self and God.) That’s my two cents.
One could argue that your central premise of "think for yourself" is the same goal of the illuminati.
Now it seems that you're inclined to believe that the illuminati goal parallels to established religion.
I don't think any ideology (personal or otherwise) is exempt from being forced upon people, whether it's religious, non-theistic, or some state in between.
One could argue that, but it just brings the fundamental question being posed back around, and that is, where do “they” end and “you” begin? The point I was trying to make is that only YOU can answer this question and to do so involves you thinking for yourself about yourself (apart from externals).[/color]
What DO you feel is exempt? That’s the question on the table.[/color]
In general, it’s so easy to get wrapped up in mental gymnastics (i.e., attempting to battle things out in the arena of the mind). Seemingly, the battle is between Self and others (externals), but actually, again, the only battle is with and within ourselves, and we are not our minds. That said, WHO ARE YOU? That’s the most important battle to be won. IMHO.
I think the media is one of their main tool and the most efficient because throughout the decades it has literally shaped and molded people's thoughts and perceptions of what we call our reality.
A sincere heart will always receive answers from God no matter how long it takes.