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There has to be a motive for anyone to do anything. I haven't seen anyone come up with a convincing motive for Sony to be behind the hoax.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginThere has to be a motive for anyone to do anything. I haven't seen anyone come up with a convincing motive for Sony to be behind the hoax.Just what is the motive for all evil in the world? Money.Whether Sony is behind it or not, they have made MUCH more money on a 'dead' Michael, than they would EVER have made on 'alive' Michael.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginThere has to be a motive for anyone to do anything. I haven't seen anyone come up with a convincing motive for Sony to be behind the hoax.Just what is the motive for all evil in the world? Money.Whether Sony is behind it or not, they have made MUCH more money on a 'dead' Michael, than they would EVER have made on 'alive' Michael.Yes - 'dead' Michael, not dead Michael hoax, has made them money. There is no financial gain for them to be behind a hoaxed death.
I feel that a vindication process becomes an essential element, if a comeback should happen. So in the near future, if there will be vindication then I don't find any reasons why Michael Jackson would not be behind this hoax. Sony is already making a hell lot of money through MJ merchandise, which each and every fan buys. But if they need more money, that too through a death hoax,, they will have to create a positive impact on the brand Michael Jackson in the eyes of potential customers. For that to become possible, this vindication process is one step, if not the only.So if Sony has to benefit from death hoax, which includes a comeback, they will have to establish the necessary foundations. If Sony is not behind death hoax, then they won't try to vindicate him. They'd keep releasing these new materials and the fans would buy them.
Jackson was waiting for licenses to the masters of his albums to revert to him, thus allowing him to promote his old material and preventing Sony from getting a cut of the profit. Jackson expected this to occur early in the new millennium, however, due to the fine print and various clauses in the contract, the revert date is still many years away. Jackson began an investigation, and it emerged that the attorney who represented the singer in the deal was also representing Sony, creating a conflict of interest. Jackson was also concerned about another conflict of interest. For a number of years, Sony had been negotiating to buy Jackson's music catalog. If Jackson's career or financial situation were to deteriorate, it would be in Jackson's financial interest to sell his catalog. Thus, Sony had something to gain from Jackson's career failing. Jackson was able to use these conflicts as leverage to exit his contract early.Just before the release of Invincible, Jackson informed the head of Sony Music Entertainment, Tommy Mottola he was leaving the record label. As a result, all singles releases, video shootings and promotions concerning the Invincible album were cancelled. Jackson made allegations in July 2002 that Mottola was a "devil" and a "racist" who did not support his African-American artists, using them merely for his own personal gain. He charged that Mottola had called his colleague Irv Gotti a "fat black nigger". Sony disputed claims that they had failed to promote Invincible with sufficient energy, maintaining that Jackson refused to tour in the United States.The singer accused Sony and the record industry of racism, deliberately not promoting or actively working against promotion of his album.
But if they need more money, that too through a death hoax,, they will have to create a positive impact on the brand Michael Jackson in the eyes of potential customers. For that to become possible, this vindication process is one step, if not the only.So if Sony has to benefit from death hoax, which includes a comeback, they will have to establish the necessary foundations.
Sony can not benefit from this death hoax as they aren't even trying for such vindication.
I understand that i'm most likely unwelcome here now :smiley-vault-misc-150:But I wanted to interject some thoughts. I believe the main thing Non-believers really find it hard to believe it's a hoax is because of all the legal things. 1. The Coroner signing off on the death certificate2. The amount of police that were there for crowd control the day of the memorial3. The Autopsy report, signed to say it was true/declaration.4. The documentation that's filed with the supreme court and the case number being on their website.5. Conrad Murrays Licenses being found on the medical board websites6. The swat team searching Murrays medical offices7. Elissa Fleaks reports 8. The real Judge, Baliffs and court room9. The legally filed appeals of Conrad Murray10. The Katherine Jackson Vs Aeg legally filed documents. The list goes on. Who has the connections to gain this kind of cooperation? Either there is federal involvement or someone owes someone a favor, someone who knows people in those higher places that that organize it.Has background profiles been done on the 'players' that Michael Jackson was around/involved with before and on juen 2009? Their histories, who they know, where they worked? It might yeild some answers to the hows on the legal aspect of it. the strangeness of everything else leads to his alive, but the hurdle is How did they manage to pull up all the legal stop signs that ordinarily could not be done? Thanks for taking the time in reading.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginI understand that i'm most likely unwelcome here now :smiley-vault-misc-150:But I wanted to interject some thoughts. I believe the main thing Non-believers really find it hard to believe it's a hoax is because of all the legal things. 1. The Coroner signing off on the death certificate Did he? It's redacted. So really, this is more accuratly described as "allegedly signed".2. The amount of police that were there for crowd control the day of the memorial Paid for by the estate, including boxed lunches You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 3. The Autopsy report, signed to say it was true/declaration. Even though it sounds like a lame excuse, stuff like this gets faked all the time; faked documents, forged signatures, etc. That's the purpose of notarization for documents filed with the state. Funnily enough, the state seal on both the AR and the DC are not consistent with the "real" seal. In addition, on the DC, it clearly states, "this is a true certified copy of the record filed in the County of Los Angeles" which, in direct translation says: "this is not a true certified copy of the record filed in the County of Los Angeles". Take a look for yourself if you don't believe me: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 4. The documentation that's filed with the supreme court and the case number being on their website. Admittedly above my pay grade, however, I will say, it's just an entry on a website. That doesn't make it any more or less reality. Or legally binding.5. Conrad Murrays Licenses being found on the medical board websites Murray being a real doctor doesn't mean MJ is dead nor does it mean he is alive. It means nothing except he may well be real a doctor.6. The swat team searching Murrays medical offices I'm glad this was brought up. The search warrant listed the wrong address for Murray's office. Which in the real world would make the product of any search invalid as evidence in court and might even result in the entire case being thrown out. In this world, however, no one has seemed to notice this except a few of us very early hoaxers. I tripled, quadruple, and quintuple checked and no matter how many times I tried to verify it, the address on the search warrant is straight up incorrect. Not to mention, did the SWAT team search Murray's office? I genuinely don't recall if there were any pics of this alleged incident. I do know there was a (n inaccurate) search warrant for it. I also know they searched Applied Pharmacy and if that wasn't a fake pharmacy I don't know what is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 7. Elissa Fleaks reports Do you mean the gal that moved all the things at the crime scene while taking pics? She's very fishy. She performed some seriously unprofessional conduct on a very high profile case that no one seemed to notice, again, except for us hoaxers.8. The real Judge, Baliffs and court room Not to be cheeky but real people sometimes act too. Gary Stevens is a real jockey who starred in the movie "Seabiscuit" as a jockey. That didn't make him any less real of a jockey, nor did it mean the movie, or the role he was playing, were real.9. The legally filed appeals of Conrad MurrayAdmittedly above my pay grade again, but again, it's just a listing on a website.10. The Katherine Jackson Vs Aeg legally filed documents. Same as above. In lieu of understanding the 'how' for these parts where I have no knowledge or experience, I concede that there are smarter, more experienced people then I working on this hoax, because I'm confident MJ didn't break the law. I'm also confident, because it only makes sense and MJ isn't an idiot, that he had the best lawyers he could find vet this hoax before he launched it. How could he not?The list goes on. Who has the connections to gain this kind of cooperation? Either there is federal involvement or someone owes someone a favor, someone who knows people in those higher places that that organize it.Has background profiles been done on the 'players' that Michael Jackson was around/involved with before and on juen 2009? Their histories, who they know, where they worked? It might yeild some answers to the hows on the legal aspect of it. the strangeness of everything else leads to his alive, but the hurdle is How did they manage to pull up all the legal stop signs that ordinarily could not be done? Thanks for taking the time in reading. :th_bravo: Deactivated, you successfully activated legit points that have been consistently ignored. not listening to me, did not change the fact that California is highly litigated state. MJ well aware of this would not do things that will lead to life time lawsuits against him and kids turning his life up to total bankrupt and miserable condition. Well, and of course fake court/ judge is not an option not for me nor in reality.
I understand that i'm most likely unwelcome here now :smiley-vault-misc-150:But I wanted to interject some thoughts. I believe the main thing Non-believers really find it hard to believe it's a hoax is because of all the legal things. 1. The Coroner signing off on the death certificate Did he? It's redacted. So really, this is more accuratly described as "allegedly signed".2. The amount of police that were there for crowd control the day of the memorial Paid for by the estate, including boxed lunches You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 3. The Autopsy report, signed to say it was true/declaration. Even though it sounds like a lame excuse, stuff like this gets faked all the time; faked documents, forged signatures, etc. That's the purpose of notarization for documents filed with the state. Funnily enough, the state seal on both the AR and the DC are not consistent with the "real" seal. In addition, on the DC, it clearly states, "this is a true certified copy of the record filed in the County of Los Angeles" which, in direct translation says: "this is not a true certified copy of the record filed in the County of Los Angeles". Take a look for yourself if you don't believe me: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 4. The documentation that's filed with the supreme court and the case number being on their website. Admittedly above my pay grade, however, I will say, it's just an entry on a website. That doesn't make it any more or less reality. Or legally binding.5. Conrad Murrays Licenses being found on the medical board websites Murray being a real doctor doesn't mean MJ is dead nor does it mean he is alive. It means nothing except he may well be real a doctor.6. The swat team searching Murrays medical offices I'm glad this was brought up. The search warrant listed the wrong address for Murray's office. Which in the real world would make the product of any search invalid as evidence in court and might even result in the entire case being thrown out. In this world, however, no one has seemed to notice this except a few of us very early hoaxers. I tripled, quadruple, and quintuple checked and no matter how many times I tried to verify it, the address on the search warrant is straight up incorrect. Not to mention, did the SWAT team search Murray's office? I genuinely don't recall if there were any pics of this alleged incident. I do know there was a (n inaccurate) search warrant for it. I also know they searched Applied Pharmacy and if that wasn't a fake pharmacy I don't know what is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 7. Elissa Fleaks reports Do you mean the gal that moved all the things at the crime scene while taking pics? She's very fishy. She performed some seriously unprofessional conduct on a very high profile case that no one seemed to notice, again, except for us hoaxers.8. The real Judge, Baliffs and court room Not to be cheeky but real people sometimes act too. Gary Stevens is a real jockey who starred in the movie "Seabiscuit" as a jockey. That didn't make him any less real of a jockey, nor did it mean the movie, or the role he was playing, were real.9. The legally filed appeals of Conrad MurrayAdmittedly above my pay grade again, but again, it's just a listing on a website.10. The Katherine Jackson Vs Aeg legally filed documents. Same as above. In lieu of understanding the 'how' for these parts where I have no knowledge or experience, I concede that there are smarter, more experienced people then I working on this hoax, because I'm confident MJ didn't break the law. I'm also confident, because it only makes sense and MJ isn't an idiot, that he had the best lawyers he could find vet this hoax before he launched it. How could he not?The list goes on. Who has the connections to gain this kind of cooperation? Either there is federal involvement or someone owes someone a favor, someone who knows people in those higher places that that organize it.Has background profiles been done on the 'players' that Michael Jackson was around/involved with before and on juen 2009? Their histories, who they know, where they worked? It might yeild some answers to the hows on the legal aspect of it. the strangeness of everything else leads to his alive, but the hurdle is How did they manage to pull up all the legal stop signs that ordinarily could not be done? Thanks for taking the time in reading.
Sigh.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginI understand that i'm most likely unwelcome here now :smiley-vault-misc-150:But I wanted to interject some thoughts. I believe the main thing Non-believers really find it hard to believe it's a hoax is because of all the legal things. 1. The Coroner signing off on the death certificate Did he? It's redacted. So really, this is more accuratly described as "allegedly signed".2. The amount of police that were there for crowd control the day of the memorial Paid for by the estate, including boxed lunches You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 3. The Autopsy report, signed to say it was true/declaration. Even though it sounds like a lame excuse, stuff like this gets faked all the time; faked documents, forged signatures, etc. That's the purpose of notarization for documents filed with the state. Funnily enough, the state seal on both the AR and the DC are not consistent with the "real" seal. In addition, on the DC, it clearly states, "this is a true certified copy of the record filed in the County of Los Angeles" which, in direct translation says: "this is not a true certified copy of the record filed in the County of Los Angeles". Take a look for yourself if you don't believe me: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 4. The documentation that's filed with the supreme court and the case number being on their website. Admittedly above my pay grade, however, I will say, it's just an entry on a website. That doesn't make it any more or less reality. Or legally binding.5. Conrad Murrays Licenses being found on the medical board websites Murray being a real doctor doesn't mean MJ is dead nor does it mean he is alive. It means nothing except he may well be real a doctor.6. The swat team searching Murrays medical offices I'm glad this was brought up. The search warrant listed the wrong address for Murray's office. Which in the real world would make the product of any search invalid as evidence in court and might even result in the entire case being thrown out. In this world, however, no one has seemed to notice this except a few of us very early hoaxers. I tripled, quadruple, and quintuple checked and no matter how many times I tried to verify it, the address on the search warrant is straight up incorrect. Not to mention, did the SWAT team search Murray's office? I genuinely don't recall if there were any pics of this alleged incident. I do know there was a (n inaccurate) search warrant for it. I also know they searched Applied Pharmacy and if that wasn't a fake pharmacy I don't know what is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 7. Elissa Fleaks reports Do you mean the gal that moved all the things at the crime scene while taking pics? She's very fishy. She performed some seriously unprofessional conduct on a very high profile case that no one seemed to notice, again, except for us hoaxers.8. The real Judge, Baliffs and court room Not to be cheeky but real people sometimes act too. Gary Stevens is a real jockey who starred in the movie "Seabiscuit" as a jockey. That didn't make him any less real of a jockey, nor did it mean the movie, or the role he was playing, were real.9. The legally filed appeals of Conrad MurrayAdmittedly above my pay grade again, but again, it's just a listing on a website.10. The Katherine Jackson Vs Aeg legally filed documents. Same as above. In lieu of understanding the 'how' for these parts where I have no knowledge or experience, I concede that there are smarter, more experienced people then I working on this hoax, because I'm confident MJ didn't break the law. I'm also confident, because it only makes sense and MJ isn't an idiot, that he had the best lawyers he could find vet this hoax before he launched it. How could he not?The list goes on. Who has the connections to gain this kind of cooperation? Either there is federal involvement or someone owes someone a favor, someone who knows people in those higher places that that organize it.Has background profiles been done on the 'players' that Michael Jackson was around/involved with before and on juen 2009? Their histories, who they know, where they worked? It might yeild some answers to the hows on the legal aspect of it. the strangeness of everything else leads to his alive, but the hurdle is How did they manage to pull up all the legal stop signs that ordinarily could not be done? Thanks for taking the time in reading. :th_bravo: Deactivated, you successfully activated legit points that have been consistently ignored. not listening to me, did not change the fact that California is highly litigated state. MJ well aware of this would not do things that will lead to life time lawsuits against him and kids turning his life up to total bankrupt and miserable condition. Well, and of course fake court/ judge is not an option not for me nor in reality.They're not ignored, they're just easily debunked and I was hoping someone else would do it since I'm supposed to be playing Devil's advocate here. Regarding lawsuits, as if we didn't know it before, these past 4 years have proved there will always be someone suing MJ for something. If he lived his life trying to avoid litigation, he'd never leave the house, and that's a fact.