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We all know  the video that MJalive999 created on youtube about the connections between this movie and MJ's Hoax. And TIAI did redirected us as well to this movie. And I'm sure many of u already discussed about this on this forum. Sorry for re-opening this topic again.

 ok... Why this movie???
Mjalive999 showed us the most important "coincidences" with the hoax,  wich are :
1. The fight for the TRUTH and FREEDOM.
2. The Big Announcement ( with that red curtain signature)
3. The statue of children holding hands in a circle ( very similar with the one in Neverland). Except the statue in V movie is formed by 5 children, while Mj's has 7  - both  of them have a  thing with the numbers here ;)
4. The Fedora man  -  V is in  disguise - and he is  recording (with a camera)  the meeting with the detective ;)  looks a lot like the Hat man at the Memorial.
5. The backround imagine ( with the Army of Hope for V and The Army of LOVE for MJ?)
Mjalive999 did an amazing job conecting this movie (V for Vendetta) and the hoax together! bravo. ;)

But I see more  "coincidences" ! And that's why I've decided to open a new  thread about this very special movie!
My question is...Was this movie the main source of inspiration for MJ's Hoax??
Let's go back to the story line and see more then we've already seen!

The Release of the movie was in March 2006  ;)

The Action starts in London.( how familiar )..;)
- A shadowy, mysterious freedom fighter; with an ideea that changed the world - V .
- A man in a mask who says about himself : " I'm a musician of sorts, and on my way to give a very special performance. I promise it will be like nothing you've ever seen! "

1. As the story beggins, we hear these lines : "This is a Test..... England Prevails"
2. BTN (British Television Network) - reports a fabricated news about a death! ( " you think ppl will buy this??? Why not?? this is BTN - our job is to report the news, not fabricate it! that's government's job").
3. The Big Announcement made by V!
    He mentions the words :  truth, cruelty, injustice, intolerance and "Truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into  a mirror.(...) But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me ONE year from tonight,  and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot."
4. The BTN news reports : The masked man was shot and killed .dead - ( Lies)
5. V's home - the Shadow Gallery - underground, looks like a museum - Art items, books, music..
    The song "Cry me a River " plays on the jukebox, performed by Julie London
~"Now you say you're sorry
For bein' so untrue
Well, you can cry me a river, cry me a river
I cried a river over you"~
6. The Voice of  London ( Prothero) - was killed  (by V) with an overdose of legal drugs!
   On the news they reported the cause of death - Heart Failure ( more Lies).
7. Evey Hammond - captured and tortured by V, reads this message "What I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that, even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you, I love you. With all my heart, I love you."
    Why all this ?
   Evey - "That wasn't real"
    V -  " you wanted to live without fear. I wish there'd been an easier way, but there wasn't. I know you may never forgive me... but nor   will you understand how hard it was for me to do what I did".
".........artists use lies to tell the truth. Yes, I created a lie. But because you believed it, you found something true about yourself. "
8. 4th of November - the Eve of the  Revolution: ( after 347 days from the Announcement?? anyway...very interesting choice of numbers..do we have a 77 or wht?? ;)
The policeman Finch - " Tonight's your big night. Are you ready for it?... Are we ready for it?
The problem is, he knows us better than we know ourselves. I suddenly had this feeling that everything was connected.
I felt like I could see everything that happened, and everything that is going to happen. It was like a perfect pattern, laid out in front of me. And I realised we're all part of it, and all trapped by it. "

In the movie we have important figures of the society - the media, the police, the doctors, the church ( the bishop) and a character - called Spider ( death ) -  all involved, connected  and part of the Vendetta! They all went down like pieces in a Domino! Only One piece didn't fall ...and that was LOVE ( or Hope?)........

V - " What us done to me, created me! "

In  the end, V  succeded - with the price of his death - and the help of  Evey, Finch and his Army - to change the world and make a day to remember!;)
"Remember, remember the fifth of November!"

My last question is .....could this line be real ?? " There are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidence! " Could most of our answers be in this movie ?

Now ...You be the judge of all this...!  ;)
Bcz maybe I'm going crazy and I see more then it is...in everything and everywhere!! :mrgreen:  But I saw this movie on tv, on Saturday and couldn't help not noticing how many things in common V and MJ have ;) ;)
Who knows ? maybe some of u  here will enjoy this thread, and if u don't .. u have my apologies for borring u with my crazy thoughts and scenarios!  :roll:

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ForstAMoon

January 03, 2011, 05:36:53 AM #45 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
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Was anybody else being randomly redirected to a blank Google page while on that Peach site? It kept happening to me. It probably doesn't mean anything...but it was annoying.

yeah it happens to me too everytime I get into the page. weird.
Same here.

But I did some research yesterday on the green banner with "Have a great 2020!". Seems like similar banner with google pop-up appeared in the past (2009) on some other websites. It is not there any longer but I found some forums that this thing was discussed  :?  :?  :?

e.g. one site
http://www.schecterguitars.com/

Here are two screen shots from forums, where the green banner "have a great 2020" with google pop up was discussed


breakodawn

January 04, 2011, 07:19:36 AM #46 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Also if you reverse the 2020...it becomes 02 02 perhaps a reference to where this all began with Michaels announcement in London and also V's takeover of the Breaking The News station.My thoughts on this.I could be retching though.
Also the movie was released on the same day that Michael closes Neverland.The 17th March 2006.It was meant to be released in 2005, on the 4th November 2005,but held over until 2006,being opening night in the USA 17th March 2006.
http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/7389.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/releaseinfo
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188181,00.html
So many coincidences in this movie.
Cheers and Happy New Year to all.


Its her

January 16, 2011, 02:58:55 PM #47 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
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Portman's 'Vendetta' To Keep London Explosion Storylines
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574625/news?year=2005

Portman's 'Vendetta' To Keep London Explosion Storylines

25 July 2005 | WENN | See recent WENN news »

Producers of Natalie Portman's forthcoming film V For Vendetta have refused to edit out scenes of bombings on the London Underground train network, despite the recent terrorist attacks in the British capital. Fifty-five people were killed and over 700 injured when a double-decker bus and three trains were blown apart by suicide bombers on July 7. Last week, one person was injured during four failed terror attacks on different underground railway lines and a bus in east London. In V For Vendetta, a futuristic London is the target of a terrorist attacks and sees the tube lines destroyed by bombings. Executive producer Joel Silver says, "It's a great time for this movie. It's a controversial film and it's a controversial time. It's going to make people think." Fellow producer David Lloyd adds, "In terms of what happened in London it's important to try and understand what leads people to terrorism. There should be lots of movies made about terrorists." Director James McTiegue explains, "Terrorism is one of those themes that never really goes away." »

Berlinale Adds Competitors

19 January 2006 | Studio Briefing - Film News | See recent Studio Briefing - Film News news »

Organizers of the 56th annual Berlin International Film Festival -- the Berlinale -- have announced the titles of 14 additional entries in this year's competition. Nine films had previously been announced, and three more films will be added before the festival opens on Feb. 9. Among U.S. films selected for the competition on Wednesday are Robert Altman's A Prairie Home Companion, starring Meryl Streep, Lily Tomlin, Woody Harrelson, Kevin Kline and John C. Reilly; and Michael Winterbottom's documentary/drama The Road to Guantanamo. Among films screening out of the competition will be Bennett Miller's Capote, starring Philip Seymour Hoffman as writer Truman Capote, and James McTeigue's V for Vendetta, written by the Wachowski brothers. »

Are we certain that these are not the "Watch Outski" Brothers?  :lol:
Of course MJ had some hand in the writing of this movie.

I also found it interesting that John Hurt, who was the good guy/victim in a similar movie about corruption in government--1984--played a character who had a job erasing and re-writing  :shock:  :shock: history in that film( :!: ), and in "V" he plays the opposite, a bad guy, for the dark side.

That "feels" like MJ to me (getting Hurt for the part). It ties the two evils together, subconsciously. Sheesh, I almost forgot! John Hurt also played John Merrick in The Elephant Man movie! (another tie to MJ 8-) )

Lastly, 2+2 IS 4. No matter the pressure, no matter what things look like, Never let anyone convince you otherwise, or muddy the Truth for you. :)

ONLY Believe...

Its her

January 16, 2011, 03:23:06 PM #48 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Sorry :oops: , I meant to say, 2+2 is 4, despite the logic of TPTB in the movie 1984. I meant to reference that movie, here, as that was the point: brainwashing the public to believe any ridiculous nonsensical thing they wanted, even if it doesn't add up. :x

ONLY Believe...

ignisaeternus

January 17, 2011, 01:38:06 AM #49 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I finally watched V for Vendetta and I was blown away.  I had read about the similarities and parallels before, but when I watched it, it really blew my mind (no pun intended).  I also wondered if Michael had a hand in writing it- I mean, seriously, it is just too obvious and I cannot believe in coincidences anymore.

Also, the recent youtube video Michael's Vendetta - where the recent interview the children gave to Oprah is tied in really, really convinces me (as if I was not already).  From Paris mentioning having watched fireworks from the roof of their home in Vegas, to the French Toast/buttertoast parallel with V- and Michael being revealed as cooks.

Furthermore- having looked for clues in the Hold My Hand video today, I noticed the grand piano in V's house (there is a grand piano very prominent in HOld My Hand).  Also, we have the image of the rose on the bed in V when one of the "victims" is found and it seems to have a glow- just like the rose on the bed (with a glow) in Hold My Hand.

"Hope is both the earliest and the most indispensable virtue inherent in the state of being alive. If life is to be sustained hope must remain, even where confidence is wounded, trust impaired."
Erik H. Erikson

ignisaeternus

January 17, 2011, 01:54:47 PM #50 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Something else I noticed this morning when watching the dvd for Dangerous Tour  from Bucharest in connection to V:

What stood out was the fencing shirt Michael wore for about the first half of the concert.  In V- there is a fencing scene where V talks about The Count of Monte Christo - another story with a strong vengeance theme.  In the end, Evey again refers to Edmond Dantes (the main character taking his vengeance)- when she says "He [V] was Edmond Dantès, and he was my father, and my mother, my brother, my friend. He was you, and me. He was all of us.."

"Hope is both the earliest and the most indispensable virtue inherent in the state of being alive. If life is to be sustained hope must remain, even where confidence is wounded, trust impaired."
Erik H. Erikson

Grace

January 17, 2011, 05:12:19 PM #51 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

There seems to be a link between Michael and the Wachowski brothers.

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On 17 March 2006 Warner Brothers released a feature-film adaptation of V for Vendetta, directed by James McTeigue (first assistant director on The Matrix films) from a screenplay by the Wachowski brothers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

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Prior to working in the film industry, the Wachowskis wrote comic books for Marvel Comics' Razorline imprint

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski_brothers

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From trips to the comic shop to a collection of some of the most impressive comics-related memorabilia around, Jackson made no secret of his affinity for comics -- going so far as to almost buy Marvel Comics in the late 1990s.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/06/25/rip-michael-jackson-comic-book-fan-collector-and-almost-the-owner-of-marvel-comics/

Create your day. Create the most astounding year of your life. Be the change you want to see in the world! L.O.V.E.
***********************************************************************************************
"I am tired, I am really tired of manipulation." Michael Jackson, Harlem, New York, NY, July 6, 2002
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******* Let's tear the walls in the brains of this world down.*******

Time to BE.

voiceforthesilent

January 17, 2011, 05:31:48 PM #52 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Grace"

There seems to be a link between Michael and the Wachowski brothers.

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On 17 March 2006 Warner Brothers released a feature-film adaptation of V for Vendetta, directed by James McTeigue (first assistant director on The Matrix films) from a screenplay by the Wachowski brothers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

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Prior to working in the film industry, the Wachowskis wrote comic books for Marvel Comics' Razorline imprint

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski_brothers

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From trips to the comic shop to a collection of some of the most impressive comics-related memorabilia around, Jackson made no secret of his affinity for comics -- going so far as to almost buy Marvel Comics in the late 1990s.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/06/25/rip-michael-jackson-comic-book-fan-collector-and-almost-the-owner-of-marvel-comics/

Wow - very interesting connection.

about the 2020 banner...I wonder if Google ever came out with a valid explanation as to why it would show up on various sites?

I'm proud to be a child of God and a member of MJ's Army of L.O.V.E.
 
"Press coverage of my life is like [watching] a fictitious movie...like watching science fiction. It's not true." ~Michael Jackson (2005)

"You should not believe everything you read. You are missing the most important revelations". Craig Harvey 3-15-2012

voiceforthesilent

January 17, 2011, 08:05:29 PM #53 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Since we're posting videos about "V" - I thought I'd add this one as it has some current information not in the other two.

http://www.youtube.com/user/21311KW#p/u/8/Ku4LN88CrQ8

I'm proud to be a child of God and a member of MJ's Army of L.O.V.E.
 
"Press coverage of my life is like [watching] a fictitious movie...like watching science fiction. It's not true." ~Michael Jackson (2005)

"You should not believe everything you read. You are missing the most important revelations". Craig Harvey 3-15-2012

ignisaeternus

January 18, 2011, 07:30:34 PM #54 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Something just stood out watching this:

"I'll see you in July."

When do we have fireworks?

July.

Just saying.   ;)

"Hope is both the earliest and the most indispensable virtue inherent in the state of being alive. If life is to be sustained hope must remain, even where confidence is wounded, trust impaired."
Erik H. Erikson

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