Four years later, how do you feel?

[bec]

If you're right at least we were all stupid together.

[blankie]

If you're right at least we were all stupid together.

 :bearhug: :icon_geek:

[underthemoon]

 Can it be that the 77. court day is at the 29. August ? Michaels 55 th birthday ?  :icon_e_smile:

[gwynned]

Can it be that the 77. court day is at the 29. August ? Michaels 55 th birthday ?  :icon_e_smile:

Yes, that would have been the perfect date, wouldn't it?  Another date is gone, and we're still here alone.  Blah, blah, blah.   :over-react-smiley:

[mrbigshot]

Why the lack of security in your convictions? Michael has undoubtedly escaped from the mortifying scowls of the media with their slanderous malevolence. He  has  just resorted to alternative means to resolve the fallacies that have occurred during his life in the spotlight. Michael has been alive since june 2009, and unless he recently departed since that period, an overwhelming feeling I have inside has allowed me to arrive at the conclusion that any sort of evidence claiming that the man has passed away is merely smoke arising from incalculable speculation. So why the skepticism associated with his (demise) when we all clearly are aware that he is still here waiting to materialize when all who have doubted say otherwise? I have never understood why there is constant questioning about the practicality of this hoax! it just doesn't logically seem to formulate. Just because no celebrity has publicly declared that they have faked their death doesnt mean it is an impossibility or has never occurred. People are so behind the belief that 9/11 was deliberately schemed by the american government for an excuse to head to war, but just because the president said otherwise, doesn't mean it's fact. come on guys, you have to stimulate your intellect! You think michael wants to be found out immediately or wants us to know his exact whereabouts at the moment?


How about we try to establish if he is even dead? Don't ask if he is truly alive, prove to me that he is dead. that is what we need to substantiate. If you can't prove it? well then, he is not dead.

[~Souza~]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1tOqZUNebs[/youtube]

[Thriller4ever]

How about we try to establish if he is even dead? Don't ask if he is truly alive, prove to me that he is dead. that is what we need to substantiate. If you can't prove it? well then, he is not dead.

I understand you. it's known to everyone that there are more clues pointing to Michael being alive. But it's I guess it's the insecurity that makes people talk of Michael being dead.

Patience is the key...

[RedRope]

Why is it that people can’t just accept the fact that Michael’s life was in danger?  He said many many times that he feared for his life.  There was an entire FBI investigation done on persons that had threatened his life.  It is because he didn’t say exactly who he feared?  It is because it’s not the Glamorous answer that would  lead to a BAM Day?  Is it because that is not entertaining enough and it leads to finality.

Because if anyone really believes Michael’s life was in danger, and he had to stage his death with the help of very few very intelligent people that the public knew nothing of, then you have to know that he is not going to return only to be a target.  I completely DO NOT get it as to why people would say “Oh Michael would never do that to his fans”  Why does everyone make it out to be about them…”the Fans”…it’s NOT about any of us.  It is about a Human Being’s Life.

A man that was deeply hated by a very sinister elite group that wanted to shut his message up, and who wanted his energy off of this earth.  Why do a lot of people KNOW that Michael is still alive without “In your face” evidence.  Because we feel his energy and his spirit, period.  But for Michael to spend years creating some Hoax and then to return years later, would be a Death sentence for him.  Not to mention great Deception, which Michael is not about for any reason.

There would be no vindication because people already believe what they want to believe in spite of the truth.  Evil breeds evil.  Look at the people around the world that deny the existence of Jehovah, or what ever name you chose to give to the Creator, our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ.  Michael studied the life of that man and lived his accordingly, but yet even people that say they Love Michael, deny Christ because his teachings don’t fit their lifestyle.

So 4 years later I see happening just what was designed to happen with “Fans”  confusion and chaos and bickering and back bitting.  No Love and peace and Harmony.  Does anyone think Michael would have Designed this Plan?  No!

[Thriller4ever]

@RedRope I would advice you to kindly check out the previous "evidences" that lead many to believe Michael is alive. We are not just saying he's alive only  because we feel his energy. That is false.

The forum is open for information.

[RedRope]

@Thriller4ever….I don’t think you are understanding my point here.  I don’t need to read evidence because I do feel Michael’s energy and presence on this earth and there are many around the world that do.  There are many people that read this forum that don’t post their thoughts and feeling and there are many other places where Michael’s disappearance is discussed .  Maybe that is the reason so many are losing faith that he is alive because the evidence has not produced a BAM, and that is what so many are looking for.   


One has to step out of the proverbial “Hoax” box and look at the reality of what Michael wrote and spoke about and in understanding the deeper meaning of his words, you can feel his energy is alive,  and evidence is not needed.

[mrbigshot]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1tOqZUNebs[/youtube]

hey what are you trying to say?!?!

:O

[sweetsunsetwithMJ]

@Thriller4ever….I don’t think you are understanding my point here.  I don’t need to read evidence because I do feel Michael’s energy and presence on this earth and there are many around the world that do.  There are many people that read this forum that don’t post their thoughts and feeling and there are many other places where Michael’s disappearance is discussed .  Maybe that is the reason so many are losing faith that he is alive because the evidence has not produced a BAM, and that is what so many are looking for.   


One has to step out of the proverbial “Hoax” box and look at the reality of what Michael wrote and spoke about and in understanding the deeper meaning of his words, you can feel his energy is alive,  and evidence is not needed.

RedRope I do appreciate your post but we are not psychics here I mean I would feel Michael's energy even being dead because I bring him in my heart and I listen to his music in a daily basis, lol just joking, but I guess you get where I'm coming from. You say that what we are looking and waiting for is a BAM and yes you are right because this hoax wouldn't make any sense without a BAM the fact that Michael left behind so many clues in TII (btw we should open a thread dedicated to TII that is where real MIchael is talking to us giving us those alleged clues) means that he wanted the whole world to learn he was planning to fake his death: let me bathe in my own time......., play with them (us??, media??, TPTB?? who knows??) and then.... May anybody transcript MJ's exact words please?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vptdmhwm4iE[/youtube]

I think we have strongly grabbed at straws concerning this MJ last sentence in TII that's the reason why we are waiting for the infamous BAM too, but RedRope it's not our fault if that sentence what made us believe in a BAM, how would you describe what Michael wanted to convey us with that sentence? furthermore I find it fishy that after the credits he is saying that + no RIP or 1958-2009 in the whole movie.

[Snoopy71]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1tOqZUNebs[/youtube]

hey what are you trying to say?!?!

:O

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Best response ever!

...It's been a rough week....I so needed that today.

[RedRope]

@Sunset.....Like I said in my first post here, it is distraction and manipulation, and if you knew the people behind it, you would run from this whole scheme.  The age old tactic of taking the enemy down is to distract them by means that is closest to the heart.  Just like when people of interest have a child kidnapped.  They use that child to get the attention and to manipulate the target into focusing on their agenda.  The target will do anything, think anything and see anything they are presented with in order to get their child back.  Those who love Michael are the target and his Legacy is the child. 

And all the while that we are focused on the child, our freedom and our livelihood is being snatched right out from under us.  This is just the medium for Michael’s fans.  They are doing it with every interest group around the world for whatever their focus is on.  If you interest is in a politician they will use that, if your interest lies in a sports figure or a religious organization, they will use that.  They know how to play you and give you the illusion of anything you put your focus on.

The energy that I speak of is the energy that Michael gives off in his human state of existence, and it doesn’t require psychic abilities, only an open mind to see beyond only those things that are visible and it is something that would not be felt if he were not alive on this earth.  That is what he meant when he said we are all ONE.  We are connected by that vibration and energy as long as we are in a physical body.  When we leave this earth we go to a higher existence of vibration.

[RedRope]

@ Sunset....
Also I wanted to add that what you are saying about the “alleged clues” in TII IS just that “alleged”.  I can promise you, if you had seen that footage the day after 6/25…No one would have said, “OH that is Michael giving us a clue he’s not dead but a Hoax, and is going to come back with a BAM return”  It was only after the Manipulators used power of suggestion and began creating videos with those clips suggesting that Michael was returning, and this and that and the other were clues. 
And yes indeed they are very capable of creating look a likes and impostors just like the ones some of you have had the unfortunate pleasure of being entangled with, to lead you down a path of disappointment and heartbreak.