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QuoteNO ONE HERE KNOWS IF MICHAEL IS ALIVE, NOT ME, NOT YOU, NOR ANYONE ELSE WHO IS A 'HOAXER'. It could be a complete fabrication of the truth and in fact Michael really died that day. I don't say that lightly, its just that there's not one piece of absolute clear and solid evidence that would stand up in a court of law to say that he didn't die.Sorry completely disagreePeace.
NO ONE HERE KNOWS IF MICHAEL IS ALIVE, NOT ME, NOT YOU, NOR ANYONE ELSE WHO IS A 'HOAXER'. It could be a complete fabrication of the truth and in fact Michael really died that day. I don't say that lightly, its just that there's not one piece of absolute clear and solid evidence that would stand up in a court of law to say that he didn't die.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuoteNO ONE HERE KNOWS IF MICHAEL IS ALIVE, NOT ME, NOT YOU, NOR ANYONE ELSE WHO IS A 'HOAXER'. It could be a complete fabrication of the truth and in fact Michael really died that day. I don't say that lightly, its just that there's not one piece of absolute clear and solid evidence that would stand up in a court of law to say that he didn't die.Sorry completely disagreePeace.There in itself lays the problem.There is no conclusive evidence Michael Jackson is alive. There is plenty of evidence that says he is dead. Every clue that’s been found is just perception based. It is dependent upon how you see something rather than it being a realistic clue. How many Professional doctors? Coroners? Police? EMT’s? Lawyers? Judges are here? How many of these professions have voiced their experience in these fields and pointing out the clues and confirming that these clues proves his alive?Unless you want to tell me that every doctor, nurse, coroner, judge, detective, EMT and lawyers through out the whole world is in on this hoax?It’s rather egotistical to think that you all can do a better job than all the professionals in the world. What a world we must live in if the professionals can not see the truth like the average, inexperienced in these field can see. So his alive, get digging with the all the Doctors usernames and quotes on the internet that has stated the same as you have all done, prove it to me, Prove it to the non believers and prove it to yourselves. This is what real investigation is about, getting the opinions from real professionals in the field of expertise on each of the “clues” where are the lawyers that back up the claim on the will?Where is the coroners backing up your clues on the autopsy picture? Where are they for the death certificate?Where is the birth certificate that shows Michael Jacksons middle name?WHERE?! Speculations is all you have. NOTHING more. Hard evidence. I can’t comprehend how people who haven’t gone through university to practise law, any of the medical fields or criminal medical field can sit there smirking thinking they know better than anyone else. The reason no one has come and given their expert opinion that give weight too the “clues” is because they are working from facts, from practise, and Fans are working from perception. No wonder Non-believers think Believers are crazy, what’s happened to Paris and how you have all reacted about it, has shown me just what Non-believers see when they interact with a Believer. it has opened my eyes and now I’m questioning the hoax itself. There is no line that’s tangible between reality and fantasy, it’s like fantasy has taken over and reality was left behind a long time ago and I know, I know you’re going to say that’s what Michael wanted, you see, that is the beauty of the world you’ve created, it’s all explained away easily by saying that this is how Michael wanted it, a “movie” to take us where we have never been. blah blah blah, you pass it all off as intended fantasy, acting and how ever else that will take you away from truth. Why haven’t anyone here gone to their own doctors and asked them questions, showing them pictures?Why haven’t anyone gone to a lawyer and asked about the legality of the will and if Joe can be used rather than Joesph?Why is everyone so stuck on the whole Joe name when no one has eye balled his Birth Certificate? I think no one has done any REAL investigating is because in their hearts they are afraid of what they might find, what the professionals will tell them, if you don’t ask, you can keep living the fantasy you’ve created.You speak of words lying, you speak of family playing along, but you take their words when it works to your favour. You take latoya’s word over his mothers about his name, but you won’t take LaToya's words concerning Paris. You take Fronts words when you can use it to your advantage, You ignore them when they are not to your advantage and the world you’ve created. All that you have is selective perception, you see only what you want to see.Explain to me, how you’re different to those who say Michael Jackson is a child molester? Their perception is selective also, because they hate him, they see what they want to see in the media and in the transcripts about his guilt they ignore the whole picture. You are taking what you want also, and ignoring the rest like it doesn’t exist. Words pop out and you form sentences and then fill in the blanks to how you would like it to go. I do not expect you to suddenly realize any of this and agree with me, I do hope though that people will question it further and look more deeper than what has been looked at, because everything has been discussed and looked at a shallow level through internet searches, through comparing, why not look at other cases, not selective cases but just any case and I know already that the ones you do not like, you will dismiss and just point out the ones that fit in to your world/fantasy, Because Selective perception will prevent you from actually looking at it from a realistic view, and that infallible structure you have built about everything being an act, will keep you snuggled up inside your fantasy away from the harsh truths. What I see is, people who are too scared to look at it in a whole picture, they are afraid their fantasy will crash to the ground, because they do not want to believe his dead and are so scared that they turn and run the other way just in case.... your minds have taken you to a place where you don’t have to face that possibility and be forced to accept it, No one can evict you from that place because you change the rules as you go along, it’s infallible because you can argue everything as acting. These “investigations” are emotionally charged and not being seen through an unbiased view. These “hoax glasses” are really symbolic shields against any possibility of him being dead, they allow you to go into a world of your choosing as a collective like those virtual games that use the head gear/glasses. When ever there is an article that you do not like, when a lot of people are speechless, the “hoax glasses” come on and then all these “connections” start happening at rapid speed, people are convincing one another than it’s fake. If everything was so obvious the world would see it without needing to wear these “hoax glasses” the mere fact that someone here claim that the information is there, very clearly and its the none believers fault if they aren’t looking... then in another thread someone says to put on “3d hoax glasses” it is actually conflicting against each statement. I also noticed that the “Hoax Glasses” have become “3D” to me that suggests that there is symbolically now 3 shields' in place where reality can not touch the fantasy/virtual world you’ve all created. If this isn’t true, then I challenge everyone to step back to day one and into each article and start listing all the evidence to suggest he died, instead of looking for hope of him being alive, go into it like a non believer, argue against your own theory. Then Debunk the list. Go to professionals, compare it to other cases, MANY other cases, FACE his DEATH then come back to the Alive theory. When you have debunked it PROPERLY, you will not fear seeing some things as real and others as hoax related, you won’t have to worry about opening a door and being spooked by a “truth” because I believe each one of you do deep down believe his dead but are unwilling to face that possibility and so to protect yourselves you just declare everything fake too scared to venture out into the real world fearing you will face your worst fear, that you won’t ever be able to walk back into the safety of the virtual world you have created.But reality is this. Michael Jackson was/is a genius but he didn’t have control of the government departments to make a hoax, he can’t control everyone, including the media, if he could control the media then he would have done so a long time ago in the 80’s or even in 2003. He can’t control everything. He is one person, and he certainly could not do it just for a movie. Besides that, The clues are not conclusive because if there would be a lot of information from lawyers, police, detectives, judges, prosecutors, Doctors, coroners, EMT’s blogging about it, or they would be here telling you just what is wrong with how he looks in the autopsy, how the trial was wrong, where the investigations were inadequate and what ever alleged “clue” You’re clinging on with dear life to a person you do not know if he is alive or dead, You have formed a relationship with him in your minds, where he is interacting with you, laughing with you, winking at you. You’re positioned yourself beside him, laughing with him at how people are falling for stories in the news, too afraid to step off and join the people who is inside the hoax, You do not want to go into the roller coaster and experience it because you don’t want to be seen as a fool. You each also have some kind of expectation that Michael Jackson will reward you for doing what you’re doing but most of you have said michael is bringing the world an adventure, to escape to, if you believe that, why are you standing to the side of it? Why aren’t you inside this alleged “fake” world, experiencing it? why are you not inside “enjoying the adventure” youre basically sneak peaking at the presents before the day you’re suppose to open them so when the day comes you already know what you’ve got. If it is true that this is all an adventure, then it’s safe to say that everyone including myself are actually doing what Michael Jackson wanted. Experiencing it like we’re suppose to, by believing it. While you’re like the boring people who stand to the side who won’t dive in and have fun with everyone else, and allow the emotions to take over kind of like the spoil sports. Just my opinion obviously. *shrugs* I still believe Attempted suicide no matter who it is, no matter what you wish to think about it should not be taken lightly without proof that it's fake. SOLID tangible proof, No one can demand you think that its real, but it's inappropriate for people to be clapping and congratulating on acting until the appropriate time to which is when it's been clearly stated by Paris or her family that it was this and it deeply hurts Paris to the point of some deep emotional trauma you won't able to take it back, it will be too late. Why would you mess with something so serious when all you have is your speculation/perception only to back you up? If it's an art form, then it would be known, Marilyn Manson doing it is much different because when you enter his concert, you know it's a show, when you hear the lyrics you know it's a song, you know it's not reality. This is different because it's not on a stage, it's not in a movie, it's not in lyrics. It's in the media. Of course the media tells lies but they also report the truth, They don't ignore the truth and tell packs of lies, they report BOTH truth and lies. Just because the family are speaking about this, it doesn't make it apart of the show. They could be 1) reassuring the fans who are worried 2) Using it to their advantage depending on what you receive of the rest of the news. AND concerning the ignoring of AEG trial. Only one place is ignoring the court case and that could be for several reasons. TMZ and AEG are connected and they have been warned NOT to cover it. Or it's not apart of the hoax so it's not to be reported on, or they can't go into the trial as there is only a certain amount of media allowed. There is many reasons so trying to suggest that everything outside of the law suit is fake is a bit presumptuous and has absolutely no foundation to it!
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You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTssF_NYusQ[/youtube]PEace !!!!!Applehead250609....you've captured my thoughts exactly! :icon_lol:Love, Peace & Blessings to you Paris Jackson no matter what the situation is! You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This is what I'm having trouble understanding - why is it that some would "rather" have Paris trying to kill herself than this being part of the hoax? Why discount a very likely possibility? I realize it could be argued the other way around but Paris has been a major player in the hoax ever since 7/7/09. The hoax is not a fantasy, it is there for us to stretch out our hands and take it up.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login This is what I'm having trouble understanding - why is it that some would "rather" have Paris trying to kill herself than this being part of the hoax? Why discount a very likely possibility? I realize it could be argued the other way around but Paris has been a major player in the hoax ever since 7/7/09. The hoax is not a fantasy, it is there for us to stretch out our hands and take it up.Why? Because the "scenario" child-suicide-hoax feels wrong on so many levels. Emotionally, morally. I know that others, who feel the same way, might make the choice to remain silent or just stay away and that´s ok. I, personally, decided to speak my mind openly after my first impulse to leave. Regardless of the response that I might get. Because I feel that, since I got involved with the hoax and this forum, commented in the past, expressed my thoughts on so many different subjects, I should do this now as well, even though my thoughts differ from the general notion.