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What does the AEG trial have to do with Wade Robson and Adrian McManus?

Started by 2good2btrue, May 18, 2013, 03:29:05 AM

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My understanding of it is that winning it is probably absolutely not the purpose of this horrendous campaign. Its main idea from the start of it was most probably to hit and run leaving a long and dirty trail of innuendoes behind it.

The goal is to trash Jackson's name, guarantee to the public an ugly spectacle for all the time while AEG is on trial, distract people's attention from the truth being  told there, set the public and the jury against Jackson and – of course – force everyone into thinking that if he was indeed a "child molester" no matter how terribly AEG treated him it only served him right and the corporation actually did us a big favor by ridding the world of this man. The task will be accomplished.

But if this is a big favor done to AEG then it most probably means that some money has already exchanged hands. People seldom go for hopeless projects unless they know that it will repay them in some way, so I will not be surprised  if Robson received or was promised a generous present for keeping attention away from the AEG trial. The word for the phenomenon is bribery and this bribery may be blatant or stealthy – both in the form of money, big money or very big money, or  in the form of lucrative contracts, new interesting projects, promise of a great job and rejuvenating his career.

Think whatever you like of me but if I were in the place of Michael Jackson's fans I would follow Wade Robson's spending habits now. His situation prior to the scandal was already known to us – Robson was broke and going through a messy divorce, so if he suddenly buys a yacht we will immediately know when, why and what kind of a wonderful fairy made him the generous present.

In fact the family has already started talking about the "substantial savings" he has though they admit he is not making any money now and there were lots of reports that he failed several jobs:

As for his motivation ... Robson family sources tell TMZ ... although he's not making any money, he has "substantial savings."
http://www.tmz.com/2013/05/09/wade-robson-nervous-breakdown-triggered-molestation-memories-michael-jackson-child-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-choreographer/#ixzz2Snu4v7oK

Why do I consider Robson's case a horrendous LIE? Because claiming that he had "repressed memories" for 20 years does not only go against everything we know about science and psychology but it is simply complete crap which may pass solely in some comedy or horror movies. If we resort to Robson's own lawyer's terminology no normal person will ever believe that someone can forget of "molestation" while he has been constantly talking about its total absence for the past 20 years.

"REPRESSED MEMORIES"
If you want to know how this type of "evidence" is obtained by some "therapists" or, to be more exact, is actually implanted into people's minds, please look up this source:  http://innocencelegalteam.com/criminal-accusations/molestation/false-memory-syndrome-2/#

You will learn that the process goes through several stages and is very much like brainwashing, controlling people's minds and manipulating them into a zombie-like state.

It isn't that the repressed memories are totally impossible – no they are, but in absolutely different cases. This may be the case of very small children who didn't understand what was being done to them by criminal adults (they realize it only when they understand what's what when they are grown-ups themselves) or it may be the case when children were assaulted and their brain dulled the shock of it by blocking the painful memories and this way helped them to survive. But what Robson is saying is complete crap.

The theory of repressed memories simply cannot apply to someone who constantly volunteered information about Michael's innocence, gave depositions and testimonies under oath and even underwent the harshest possible cross-examination at the 2005 trial.

Over there Robson actually not only refuted all the accusations but was unwavering, confident, relaxed and even funny when he made a joke when leafing through adult magazines, "I never thought I'd have a room of people watching me do this". This type of behavior is not typical of the guy "intimidated" into giving evidence in favor of someone or doing it for money for the person he is speaking up for.

If you reread Robson's testimony at the trial you will indeed be impressed. He was forthright, adamant and insisting and this is indeed the way people speak the truth. This type of manner is also typical of a confident man whose career is flourishing (at the time when Michael's absolutely wasn't) and pointing to someone who is actually the master of the situation and absolutely no slave to it.

However later Robson's fortunes changed, he experienced several setbacks and was reduced to a state when the only job he had was for the Cirque du Soleil Michael Jackson show which I hear he also lost. He spoke about that project in 2011 and looked decidedly different from his previous former self. Though he did mention his 20 years of friendship with Michael this time his words sounded reserved and not quite sincere.

Does it mean anything bad for MJ? No, absolutely not. All it means is that Robson grew nervous, uncomfortable, began experiencing problems, envying Michael's fame and money, and already in 2011 was most probably already making plans to extort the Estate for money which he so badly needed.

In short the sight of him speaking about Michael in 2011 is actually a picture of him lying about his true attitude to Michael.

But if this is how he looks when he knows that he is harboring ill intentions towards Michael and is actually lying, it means that back in 2005 when his manner was totally different – confident, adamant and even slightly arrogant or condescending – he was telling the truth and did not have a single doubt of what he was saying.

If he had lied then he would have looked exactly like he is looking now – in this video of July 2011 (see below). The opening of the video shows him nervous and unsure of himself, the end is all about Cirque du Soleil job being his only hope now, and at 2:50 you see his strained looks when he is talking about MJ.

Why strained? Because he already knows what he is going to do quite soon and is already feeling uncomfortable about it, or is probably feeling sort of resentment towards his former mentor (people generally tend to blame others for their own problems in life):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWtvYzsbtjc&feature=player_embedded

Thomas Mesereau was right when he said to "Positively Michael" that at the 2005 trial that Robson was telling the truth. Robson's confident manner at the trial is the best proof of it. Now his confidence is gone but the amnesia version is absolutely no explanation for it. The real reason is that he is broke, unsure of himself, envious of Michael's posthmous success and is resentful of the fact that Michael's estate is on a sure road to full recovery while he is not. His personal life also crashed and moments like these are not easy for any of us either.

You can read more here....I'm sure, many of us need to read this...

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/what-does-the-aeg-trial-have-to-do-with-wade-robson-and-blanca-francia/


marumjj

2good, here are two situations occur, the first and I think it's the running for AEG, is to influence people and the media, the lawyer for AEG said "would show ugly things" and they are doing it.
The second situation is if Wade says he had "repressed memory" and now accuses Michael of abuse, he has to prove it. I do not know about your statement under oath in 2005, can be sued for perjury? Idk but as you say this is total crap.
this is a page to support MJ
MICHAEL JACKSON FOREVER INNOCENT, JUSTICE BE DONE
directed to the Superior Court of Los Angeles
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/884/121/675/michael-jackson-innocent-forever-justice-be-done/


sweetsunsetwithMJ

2good2btrue with this I am not saying that I am sure WR's claim is staged but....what does the AEG trial have to do with AEG lawyers stipulating Michael alive or dead?? I think it's the same thing, this all doesn't make sense is all so fishy that we have to wait till the end to see what happens, I really think it shouldn't be truth it's too tremendous to be real.

I WANNA BE WHERE YOU ARE!!

onthewingsoflove

Quote from: marumjj on May 18, 2013, 05:14:57 AM

this is a page to support MJ
MICHAEL JACKSON FOREVER INNOCENT, JUSTICE BE DONE
directed to the Superior Court of Los Angeles
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/884/121/675/michael-jackson-innocent-forever-justice-be-done/

Thank you marumjj for the link. I have signed petition!

Stay blessed!

OnTheWingsOfLove

"Defender of the faith, Supporter of the Word!"

blankie

I think that, as always, behind all there Michael  :moonwalk_:  and if he wants that circulate these bad things will have his reasons,
and perhaps even to understand better to his believers that  he could do nothing except to invent June 25... waiting for guys....keeph the faith   :bearhug:

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Faithad777

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2good2btrue with this I am not saying that I am sure WR's claim is staged but....what does the AEG trial have to do with AEG lawyers stipulating Michael alive or dead?? I think it's the same thing, this all doesn't make sense is all so fishy that we have to wait till the end to see what happens, I really think it shouldn't be truth it's too tremendous to be real.

Sweet, this is what confuses me the most.  Besides the AEG lawyer, it was reported that one of the jurors (I believe it was juror 7) stated that he didn't believe that Michael was dead (not in those words exactly) and the judge and lawyers were discussing whether they were going to replace HIM or not.  Then poof we heard nothing more about that witness.

The beginning of the trial was hoaxy, and I was very happy.  But then it became very, very serious with the allegations and the witch maid Adrian putting a cloud over everything.  Wade's allegations are so serious yet out of this world outrageously unbelievable that it very well could be hoaxy, but I'm not sure.....


Faithad777

I have a correction to make on my last post, sorry.  The witch maid's name is Blanca not Adrian.


sweetsunsetwithMJ

Quote from: Faithad777 on May 18, 2013, 07:59:05 PM

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2good2btrue with this I am not saying that I am sure WR's claim is staged but....what does the AEG trial have to do with AEG lawyers stipulating Michael alive or dead?? I think it's the same thing, this all doesn't make sense is all so fishy that we have to wait till the end to see what happens, I really think it shouldn't be truth it's too tremendous to be real.

Sweet, this is what confuses me the most.  Besides the AEG lawyer, it was reported that one of the jurors (I believe it was juror 7) stated that he didn't believe that Michael was dead (not in those words exactly) and the judge and lawyers were discussing whether they were going to replace HIM or not.  Then poof we heard nothing more about that witness.

The beginning of the trial was hoaxy, and I was very happy.  But then it became very, very serious with the allegations and the witch maid Adrian putting a cloud over everything.  Wade's allegations are so serious yet out of this world outrageously unbelievable that it very well could be hoaxy, but I'm not sure.....

Yes you are right.

Off topic: Faith if you want to change or modify anything of your post you only have to click "Modify button" then change, add or modify and click  "Post button" again.
If you want to quote any of us you have to go to that member post and click her/his "Quote button" so  nickname, date and hour of the post will automatically appear on your post.

I WANNA BE WHERE YOU ARE!!

Faithad777

sweet, I have used the modify button before, but this time it was quite some time later when I realized that I had made a mistake, and it wouldn't let me change anything anymore.
Thank you for letting me know about the quote button, I was using the quote button that's above all the emoticons.


sweetsunsetwithMJ

Quote from: Faithad777 on May 19, 2013, 02:58:36 PM

sweet, I have used the modify button before, but this time it was quite some time later when I realized that I had made a mistake, and it wouldn't let me change anything anymore.
Thank you for letting me know about the quote button, I was using the quote button that's above all the emoticons.

You are welcome, yes I know you were using that button but it doesn't say who and when was written, but it's ok if you use it we understand you anyway  :icon_razz:
I WANNA BE WHERE YOU ARE!!

paula-c

I, personally do not believe that the WR is part of the hoax, perhaps this is one of those nasty things referred to in the lawyer of AEG


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