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I agree that everything now that TS, Front, Paris and Latoya say need to be taken with a grain of salt. In fact a huge amount of it lol...But the five yr plan thing. If we go by that then it contradicts MJs 4 yr to get it right comment... I guess its a matter of who you believe more, Jermaine or MJ... Lol they both have a reputation for telling 'porky pies' (lies)
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginI agree that everything now that TS, Front, Paris and Latoya say need to be taken with a grain of salt. In fact a huge amount of it lol...But the five yr plan thing. If we go by that then it contradicts MJs 4 yr to get it right comment... I guess its a matter of who you believe more, Jermaine or MJ... Lol they both have a reputation for telling 'porky pies' (lies)To me its more a matter of not believing either?! This year, next year, sometime, never - seriously, no-one is going to tell us! Remember, the element of expectation yet surprise is a vital one in the magical world of illusion!Increasingly I'm thinking (like Bec) that we have, as a forum, been guilty of inflating our importance. I think this site was 'useful' in the beginning to get information out, but that time has long gone, and I feel we've been creating our own little parallel hoax world here for quite some time.Not a bad place to be necessarily, but I think it's worth recognising it for what it is. As usual, JMO of course!
It's true the hoax would carry on with or without us. Maybe we have sometimes inflated our importance to the hoax because it is so important to us, as a group and individually. We'd like to think that Michael reads here and has read our words. Not every post of course, but at least some. Maybe we've even been right about certain things. So while our 'role' in this hoax may not be super important in the grand scheme of things, we do provide something - a record of events/clues/signs about the hoax for future reference (post-BAM). Feeling sorry for ourselves or belittling our contributions (however small) is counter productive, imo, and I'm not saying that's what you guys are doing but it's sort of the vibe I'm getting. Apologies if I'm wrong about tha
It's true the hoax would carry on with or without us. Maybe we have sometimes inflated our importance to the hoax because it is so important to us, as a group and individually. We'd like to think that Michael reads here and has read our words. Not every post of course, but at least some. Maybe we've even been right about certain things. So while our 'role' in this hoax may not be super important in the grand scheme of things, we do provide something - a record of events/clues/signs about the hoax for future reference (post-BAM). Feeling sorry for ourselves or belittling our contributions (however small) is counter productive, imo, and I'm not saying that's what you guys are doing but it's sort of the vibe I'm getting. Apologies if I'm wrong about that.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login It's true the hoax would carry on with or without us. Maybe we have sometimes inflated our importance to the hoax because it is so important to us, as a group and individually. We'd like to think that Michael reads here and has read our words. Not every post of course, but at least some. Maybe we've even been right about certain things. So while our 'role' in this hoax may not be super important in the grand scheme of things, we do provide something - a record of events/clues/signs about the hoax for future reference (post-BAM). Feeling sorry for ourselves or belittling our contributions (however small) is counter productive, imo, and I'm not saying that's what you guys are doing but it's sort of the vibe I'm getting. Apologies if I'm wrong about thaI like your thinking on this Andrea. Regarding keeping a record of events for future reference.....I believe it is important for us to continue to post relevant articles, court /legal documents and updates on Murray and persons of interest in the hoax here to maintain and complete what we initially started. At the end of the day, it's not about us, it's MJ's hoax and I am just thankful to have been able to watch it in real time.
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@aussie you post that jermaines five year statement is in direct conflict with mj telling us four years, again thats assuming the four years has to do with his comeback.
I'm not here to have my faith and commitment tested. I sincerely hope that's not what this has all been about. Not feeling sorry for myself, just seeing things in a different light these days.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ...... It only January 2013 and if nothing happens this year, I can see us falling back on Jermaine saying MJ had a five year plan...Ain't that the truth Andrea - other relevant dates in the future will always be found to extend this as long as needs be. I don't know whether that makes me laugh or cry!!
...... It only January 2013 and if nothing happens this year, I can see us falling back on Jermaine saying MJ had a five year plan...
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ...... It only January 2013 and if nothing happens this year, I can see us falling back on Jermaine saying MJ had a five year plan...Ain't that the truth Andrea - other relevant dates in the future will always be found to extend this as long as needs be. I don't know whether that makes me laugh or cry!!same here! it can not goes like that forever, one date will be the right date, hopefully!
i'm thinking the four years to get it right statement by MJ in This is it has to do with exactly what he was telling us in that context namely our duty to step up and do something before we completely ruin the planet for later generations (if we have'nt done so already) This was what was in the news when Michael was in the planning stages of This Is It, and very likely what Michael meant when he reiterated that "we only have 4 years left to get it right or else it's irreversible".In Jan 2009, a leading climatologist warned that the new president needed to lead the world in making significant changes to stop and reverse global warming...You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ). Jim Hansen, one of the most prominent experts on climate change, was the one who said "we only have 4 years left". Hansen was not referring to the end of the world in 4 years, but rather to Obama's 4-year term as president. As carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere increase, global temperatures increase, melting the ice caps and causing sea levels to rise, which is predicted to reach devastating levels over the next hundred years. The urgency of Hansen's message is based on his contention that it is not just a proportional relationship between CO2 levels and rising temperatures, but that over time, the rate of rising temperatures will accelerate. He said, "We cannot now afford to put off change any longer. We have to get on a new path within this new administration. We have only four years left for Obama to set an example to the rest of the world. America must take the lead." So i don't think the four years has to do with his come back date.
"I’m very concerned about the plight of the international global warming phenomenon. I knew it was coming, but I wish they would have gotten people’s interest sooner. But it’s never too late. It’s been described as a runaway train; if we don’t stop it, we’ll never get it back. So we have to fix it now. That’s what I was trying to do with "Earth Song", "Heal The World", "We Are The World", writing those songs to open up people’s consciousness. I wish people would listen to every word.""I just wish they (including the authorities) would do more for the babies and children, help them more. That would be great, wouldn’t it?"
On the state of the world & the then presidential race:"To tell you the truth, I don’t follow that stuff. We were raised to not…we don’t look to man to fix the problems of the world, we don’t. They can’t do it. That’s how I see it. It’s beyond us. Look, we don’t have control over the grounds, they can shake. We don’t have control over the seas, they can have tsunamis. We don’t have control over the skies, there are storms. We’re all in God’s hands. I think that man has to take that into consideration. I just wish they would do more for the babies and children, help them more. That would be great, wouldn’t it?"Michael Jackson in his 2007 Ebony Magazine interviewYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
4 Years is the only time frame Michael HIMSELF gave. While everyone is being disappointed about other BAM dates passing by, they ignore that one line out of the horse's mouth. If there is a BAM, which I am sure there will be, then that's the biggest clue you can get.
Guys, I really do feel very optimistic, excited, that we are on the right track, MJ's plan is moving forward as it should.And I still believe 150% that TS and Front are essential parts of it, yet with a layer of protection against being too transparent.