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@use_your_illusion: you are such a sweetheart to try and help me get it better! Thank you for the effort of writing all that!! :bearhug:I see that we are both on "the same page" of not getting pretty much anything of it!My only possible way of understanding these signs posted by TS is that we don't have to take them literally, they must somehow represent symbolically the death hoax and the return of Michael! it's all an allegory I guess!!But in order to get the hidden meaning related to the hoax, we must somehow understand the literal meaning of those texts!! Which for me it's impossible! I mean it's very hard to even read all that, let alone understanding it! But IDK I think that once we manage to grasp the meaning of the actual text, we will be able to "visualize" the parallels to the death hoax!So far the only parallels that i could "SEE" are these:- nobody knows when the BAM will be (BAM of Michael equals the second coming of Christ here)- the beLIEvers know there will be a BAM but they don't know when- the non-beLIEvers will be fully SHOCKED when Michael returns very much ALIVE (just like the unfaithful people were panicked when they saw that Noah was right!! and they started running on the top of the mountains to save their lives, that's pretty much how the non-believers and Michael's haters will feel like when Michael returns ALIVE and victorious!)- Just like ADI thinks, I also beLIEve that the terms highlighted in colors and everything are an important CLUE! I think this is precisely why TS took the effort of putting this sign into a PDF format even with the risk of most of us not being able to download that! He wanted to make sure we realize the importance of those COLORED terms.- Those words colored do not make any sense to us for now... I guess we should just keep that in mind for now and in the near future we will be able to correlate/connect them with the next clues/event that we will receive. It's all a puzzle , remember? and we gradually receive some pieces of it...and sometimes certain pieces don't seem to fit , until the next time we receive some more pieces!Well that's what I could understand so far... and most probably I'm wrong !! lol
My guess about Michael's comeback timing:1- November 27th' 2012: BAM (Thursday - middle of the week)2- November 29th' 2012: TS' 7th Sign3- November 30th' 2012: 30th Thriller Anniversary + Thriller 3D movie release
Thanks Mindseye for all your work. That's interesting that the end of 70 weeks would be December 31,2012. I was thinking that Michael would be starting week 71 because of ambulance 71. Do you think week 71 would start on 1/1/13 ? Would it actually be a week or seven years ? Or maybe the 71st week started on June 25, 2009 when the ambulance 71 took off ? Three and a half years from June 25, 2009 would be around 12/25/12. That's about the middle of the seven year period. Then we only have another 3.5 years to work together to "get it right".
It should also be clearly stated at this point that the world will not end on 12-21-2012; but it will end shortly after 2012! How long is “shortly”? Nobody knows a specific date; but it will probably be withinthe next few years (nobody living on earth now is going to grow old, unless you’re nearly there already). How can we be sure that this is true? If you keep watching, you will learn how, soon enough.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginBec I'm going back in time and with your 70 days calculation I came up with something interesting... You are not allowed to view links. Register or Loginvoice: the 8th 70 day period is over January 4th-6th. If you count from Murray's last court "thing" it's 1/4/11 exactly. If you count precisely (which I'm more inclined too as the dates tend to be soft every 3rd period or so, and vary from 4-6 days or so. Example, Murray court 8/23/10 to Murray judges meet 10/26/10 was only 64 days. The equivalent 70 period when counted exact was 8/19/10-10/28/10. This was the 7th 70 day period.)Here's the exact periods, 70 days apart:6/25/09-9/3/09-11/12/09-1/21/10-4/1/10-6/10/10-8/19/10-10/28/10 490th day of the hoax, 7x70 days or 70 weeks. -1/6/10-3/15/2011-5/24/2011-8/2/2011 [8/11/2011 will be the 777th day of the hoax]-10/11/2011god i hope i don't need to calculate beyond that <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Here's the hoax periods:6/25/09-9/3/09, 70 days, "death"-"burial"-11/12/09, 70 days, last day of 2 week run for TII in theaters-1/25/10, 74 days, 7 month anniversary of hoax-4/5/10, 70 days Murray arrested/formal charges (1st court date)-6/14/10, 70 days, Murray's 2nd court date-8/23/10, 70 days, Murray's 3rd court date-10/26/10, 64 days, Murray lawyers meet with the judge to request fluid samples-1/4/10, 70 days, Murray prelim trial begins I started with Michael's birthday 2011 and counted 70 days onwards, not sure yet all date meanings but after 7x it ends at December 31.August 29, 2011 --- and of course 70 weeks later is Dec. 31Monday, November 7, 2011 CM sentencing+70 -Monday, January 16, 2012 ... March 26, 2012... June 4, 2012... August 13, 2012... October 22, 2012 Front posted will you be there? video... December 31, 2012I posted this song back in March because my feeling is that part of this hoax is about forgiveness. :icon_question:This artist describes how he came to write the song. Maybe a clue idk. :icon_mrgreen:You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login / Re: Songs you listen to during this period« on: March 17, 2012, 05:32:58 AM »Matthew 18:21-22 also = 7Peter came and said to Him, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.”[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OzO5MTSssqM[/youtube]Thanks Mindseye for all your work. That's interesting that the end of 70 weeks would be December 31,2012. I was thinking that Michael would be starting week 71 because of ambulance 71. Do you think week 71 would start on 1/1/13 ? Would it actually be a week or seven years ? Or maybe the 71st week started on June 25, 2009 when the ambulance 71 took off ? Three and a half years from June 25, 2009 would be around 12/25/12. That's about the middle of the seven year period. Then we only have another 3.5 years to work together to "get it right". I'm leaning toward the idea that June 25,2009 started the 71st week. I could be completely wrong. Why was the number 71 used ? Were there other reasons that I don't know about ? Thanks everyone. :icon_e_geek:
Bec I'm going back in time and with your 70 days calculation I came up with something interesting... You are not allowed to view links. Register or Loginvoice: the 8th 70 day period is over January 4th-6th. If you count from Murray's last court "thing" it's 1/4/11 exactly. If you count precisely (which I'm more inclined too as the dates tend to be soft every 3rd period or so, and vary from 4-6 days or so. Example, Murray court 8/23/10 to Murray judges meet 10/26/10 was only 64 days. The equivalent 70 period when counted exact was 8/19/10-10/28/10. This was the 7th 70 day period.)Here's the exact periods, 70 days apart:6/25/09-9/3/09-11/12/09-1/21/10-4/1/10-6/10/10-8/19/10-10/28/10 490th day of the hoax, 7x70 days or 70 weeks. -1/6/10-3/15/2011-5/24/2011-8/2/2011 [8/11/2011 will be the 777th day of the hoax]-10/11/2011god i hope i don't need to calculate beyond that <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Here's the hoax periods:6/25/09-9/3/09, 70 days, "death"-"burial"-11/12/09, 70 days, last day of 2 week run for TII in theaters-1/25/10, 74 days, 7 month anniversary of hoax-4/5/10, 70 days Murray arrested/formal charges (1st court date)-6/14/10, 70 days, Murray's 2nd court date-8/23/10, 70 days, Murray's 3rd court date-10/26/10, 64 days, Murray lawyers meet with the judge to request fluid samples-1/4/10, 70 days, Murray prelim trial begins I started with Michael's birthday 2011 and counted 70 days onwards, not sure yet all date meanings but after 7x it ends at December 31.August 29, 2011 --- and of course 70 weeks later is Dec. 31Monday, November 7, 2011 CM sentencing+70 -Monday, January 16, 2012 ... March 26, 2012... June 4, 2012... August 13, 2012... October 22, 2012 Front posted will you be there? video... December 31, 2012I posted this song back in March because my feeling is that part of this hoax is about forgiveness. :icon_question:This artist describes how he came to write the song. Maybe a clue idk. :icon_mrgreen:You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login / Re: Songs you listen to during this period« on: March 17, 2012, 05:32:58 AM »Matthew 18:21-22 also = 7Peter came and said to Him, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.”[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OzO5MTSssqM[/youtube]
voice: the 8th 70 day period is over January 4th-6th. If you count from Murray's last court "thing" it's 1/4/11 exactly. If you count precisely (which I'm more inclined too as the dates tend to be soft every 3rd period or so, and vary from 4-6 days or so. Example, Murray court 8/23/10 to Murray judges meet 10/26/10 was only 64 days. The equivalent 70 period when counted exact was 8/19/10-10/28/10. This was the 7th 70 day period.)Here's the exact periods, 70 days apart:6/25/09-9/3/09-11/12/09-1/21/10-4/1/10-6/10/10-8/19/10-10/28/10 490th day of the hoax, 7x70 days or 70 weeks. -1/6/10-3/15/2011-5/24/2011-8/2/2011 [8/11/2011 will be the 777th day of the hoax]-10/11/2011god i hope i don't need to calculate beyond that <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> Here's the hoax periods:6/25/09-9/3/09, 70 days, "death"-"burial"-11/12/09, 70 days, last day of 2 week run for TII in theaters-1/25/10, 74 days, 7 month anniversary of hoax-4/5/10, 70 days Murray arrested/formal charges (1st court date)-6/14/10, 70 days, Murray's 2nd court date-8/23/10, 70 days, Murray's 3rd court date-10/26/10, 64 days, Murray lawyers meet with the judge to request fluid samples-1/4/10, 70 days, Murray prelim trial begins
06/25/2009--> 12/04/2012 = 180 weeks exactly, (18) 70 day periods exactly, Thursday to Thursday, 1260 days.
Biblical use of the 1260 day/yearsDaniel 7.25And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.A Time = 1 yearTimes = 2 yearsDividing of Times = 1/2 year.360 X 3 =1080 180 = 1260 Daniel 12.7And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. Rev. 11.2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.Rev. 11.3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.Forty two months = 42 X 30 = 1260Two hundred and threescore = 1260Rev. 12.6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. Rev. 12.14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.Rev. 13.5,8And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months...and all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. This same power depicted as controlling religious affairs for 1260 years, will again arise. It's deadly wound healed. Together with the "power of the dragon" and "force of the second beast" the world will be brought to a crises. (See Rev. 13) Therefore it is imperative that we understand this issue.
This may be very off topic, I'm sorry, I'm just brainstorming a little with numbers. @mindseye, the problem I ran into with the 70 day periods is do you count INcluvely or EXclusively? Inclusive counting is the method TS introduced us to, which counts each day as (1), and doesn't leave out a day, useful for single periods of count, ie burial-->autopsy=7 days. Exclusive counting does not include the final date in the total number, which is useful for counting blocks of days. Day 1-->day 70=69 days, so that day 70 is also Day 1 when proceeding to count your next block of days.....So that maybe makes these calculations interesting:06/25/2009--> 11/29/2012 = 179 weeks exactly, Thursday to Thursday. 179 weeks is also (17) 70 day periods + 63 days or + 9 weeks. 06/25/2009--> 12/04/2012 = 180 weeks exactly, (18) 70 day periods exactly, Thursday to Thursday, 1260 days.Does it mean anything? Who knows. They're numerically notable days that are coming up.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginMy guess about Michael's comeback timing:1- November 27th' 2012: BAM (Thursday - middle of the week)2- November 29th' 2012: TS' 7th Sign3- November 30th' 2012: 30th Thriller Anniversary + Thriller 3D movie releaseWhy November 27th? Ya know somethin' :suspect: :icon_e_surprised: :icon_lol:
Revelation 13:5 speaks of this time as forty two months. "...and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months." The forty two months of Rev 13:5 and the "time, and times and dividing a time" of Daniel 7:25 equal the same thing. 42 months = "3 1/2 years" A "time (one year) and times (+ two years) and the dividing of time, (+ half a year ) = three and a half years, or forty two months (12+24 + 6 = 42 months) And then Revelation 12:6 confirms this when it says that the church of Jesus would hide in the wilderness for exactly 1260 days. 42 months, or 3 and a half years equals 1260 days. Still, some will say that 42 months does NOT equal 1260 days because all our months do not equal 30 days each. The fact here is, prophecy speaks of Biblical months. To understand the forty and two months, or the time, and times and diving a time, that the beast will reign, we must first find the method of time the Bible declares for prophecy. God says in Ezekiel 4:6 "I have appointed thee each day for a year" And we also find the Bible acknowledges a month to be 30 days long. Because in, Genesis 7:11 we see the rain started on the 17 day of the 2nd month and in Genesis 8:3,4 we find the water receded at the end of 150 days, then it says the ark rested on the 17th day of the 7th month. That's exactly 5 months to the day. If we divide the 150 days by the 5 months you get 30 days per month. So 42 months multiplied by 30 equals 1260. And according to Ezekiel 4:6, that's 1260 years that Papal Rome would reign."Vigilius...ascended the papal chair (538 A.D.) under the military protection of Belisarius." History of the Christian Church, Vol. 3, p. 327Historical records reveal the papacy began its reign in 538 AD[/b] upon Emperor Justinian's decree, and under the military protection of Belisarius. And the Bible says the beast will rule for EXACTLY 1260 years before receiving a mortal wound. Now it's just a matter of simple mathematics. It is also a grand method by which to see the Lord glorified. If the prophecy is correct, 1260 years after 538 AD the Beast must receive a mortal wound. If you add 1260 years to the beginning year for the Roman Catholic church, 538 AD, you will arrive in the year 1798 AD. So, according to the Bible we are told the first reign of the Beast will last till the year 1798 . So, did it end in 1798, and how? First understand, according to the prophecy, we learn that, "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword..." Revelation 13:10.The prophecy is telling us that the beast would be destroyed with the sword (sword = military) at the end of its reign of exactly 1260 years. Did this happen to Papal Rome in 1798...? YES IT DID! On February 10th Napoleon Bonaparte in that EXACT year 1798 A.D. sent his General Louis Alexandre Berthier, with his army into Rome, Italy. It is recorded... "In 1798 General Berthier made his entrance into Rome, abolished the papal government, and established a secular one." -Encyclopedia Britannica 1941 editionThat's Exactly 42 prophetic months, or 1260 years, or a time, and times, and dividing a time after the Papacy began its powerful reign that the Pope "shall go into captivity" by the military! By the way, shortly after his captivity the Pope did in fact die, in exile.