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[ellyd]

No (little) motion moving from smaller into bigger frame, increasing (shoe) size and putting feet on (above) a bar.
Seems to be a role call to us still enjoying tiny pieces to dare looking at the bigger picture (enlarged by a bigger frame).

A frame of reference in physics, may refer to a coordinate system or set of axes within which to measure the position, orientation, and other properties of objects in it, or it may refer to an observational reference frame tied to the state of motion of an observer. It may also refer to both an observational reference frame and an attached coordinate system as a unit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_of_reference

[finfin]

  "Murray was transferred from a 5'x7' cell to a 8'x10' cell yesterday -- the biggest in the jail"

Sort of odd that the cell sizes correspond to standard photo sizes in inches eg for a framed picture     it's 5x7. For a wall-hanging it's 8x10 or larger.

But to be realistic everything has been sort of odd for the last 3 years  :icon_lol:

Yeah right! So why would the cell be any different?

Don't quite understand what you mean @diggyon

[diggyon]

  "Murray was transferred from a 5'x7' cell to a 8'x10' cell yesterday -- the biggest in the jail"

Sort of odd that the cell sizes correspond to standard photo sizes in inches eg for a framed picture     it's 5x7. For a wall-hanging it's 8x10 or larger.

But to be realistic everything has been sort of odd for the last 3 years  :icon_lol:

Yeah right! So why would the cell be any different?

Don't quite understand what you mean @diggyon

I meant that the cell measurement are odd, just like everything else!

[finfin]

@ellyd yes and piece by piece by piece by piece, MJ is revealed, until he jumps out and ..... ??

hopefully we will see the big picture soon!!!  :icon_e_wink:

@diggyon the measurements do seem  odd, trying to picture a 6' 5" man in a 5 x 7 cell - it must be a joke

[suspicious mind]

why has there all along been such a huge focus on the size of this man, is it relevent to anything? also his age seems to be brought up time and again. why?

[MJonmind]

@finfin: great idea about the framed picture sizes!  :icon_e_wink:
So in conclusion it's not real, it's all framed!!  :icon_albino:

:icon_albino: Picture sizes was my first thought too, but the thought passed quickly as probably nothing.  "A 'picture' is worth a thousand words."  So just like MJ was framed in 93 and 05, perhaps CM was framed/"just the fall guy" or the bait by MJ's hoax machinery, etc.  That's why CM shows no remorse and claims innocence.

[marumjj]

Posted 10/12/2012  9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF
DR. CONRAD MURRAY
Moved into Bigger Cell
... Still Complaining

EXCLUSIVE DETAILS
The L.A. County Sheriff has moved Dr. Conrad Murray into a larger cell -- but the good doc still ain't happy with the upgrade, telling his lawyer, "I'm dying. You gotta save me."

Murray was transferred from a 5'x7' cell to a 8'x10' cell yesterday -- the biggest in the jail -- but he spoke to his lawyer soon after, saying, "I am a condemned prisoner right now. I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at."

As we reported, Murray -- who is 6'5" -- has been griping constantly about his living conditions behind bars, claiming he's dying a slow death due to the cramped spaces.

Murray says the new cell doesn't have bars to elevate his leg -- which has become swollen due to a lack of movement. He says the new cell is also more isolated, and he still isn't getting more exercise.

We're told Murray is grateful for the attention -- but it's just not enough.

Calls to the L.A. County Sheriff were not returned.
See also
Sheriff's Dept. to Dr. Conrad Murray: Relax, You're Getting What You Deserve
Dr. Conrad Murray -- Jail Is KILLING ME!!!!
Joe Jackson Drops Wrongful Death Suit Against Dr. Murray

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296jRL6Ek
http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296eyZL85

5x7 = 35
8x10 = 80
80 +35 = 115
1 +1 +5 = 7

I think it's your lucky number also, do not complain

[pepper]

I've been trying to find something to confirm the actual size of these "cells" in the LA Men's Central Jail where Murray is supposed to be.  The closest I have found is part of a comment from this link - http://www.topix.com/forum/news/aclu/T0V5OO235BRR6VRKT/p2

"I've done two tours at Men's Central... Try spending 24/7, some guys fighting a case for 4 + years, in a 8x10 cell with 11 other guys with one toilet and sink, roaches, mice, rats and sticky filth everywhere you touch."

It sounds like a horrible place - but this person says an 8x10 cell would hold 12 men.  So IF Murray is in an 8x10 cell by himself, he should not be complaining.

OR ANOTHER THOUGHT -

All this talk about "cells" and the size of "cells"

"Cell" can also be an abbreviation for "Celluloid" which can mean "a motion-picture film - a film you show in the cinema"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/celluloid

[wishingstar]

@pepper...interesting post, you're right cell has different meanings.....
it's also the very fiber and make-up of everything on Earth.  It sort of
by reminds me of this quote by Michael:

The meaning of life is contained in every single expression of life. It is present in the infinity of forms and phenomena that exist in all of creation.

Have a beautiful day!
LOVE

[hesouttamylife]

I think this is another way to tell us that things are shaping up and moving along nicely.  Not quite there yet, but soon.  :beerchug:

[suspicious mind]

@finfin: great idea about the framed picture sizes!  :icon_e_wink:
So in conclusion it's not real, it's all framed!!  :icon_albino:

:icon_albino: Picture sizes was my first thought too, but the thought passed quickly as probably nothing.  "A 'picture' is worth a thousand words."  So just like MJ was framed in 93 and 05, perhaps CM was framed/"just the fall guy" or the bait by MJ's hoax machinery, etc. That's why CM shows no remorse and claims innocence.

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anyone ever make these claims against michael during the allegations against him? just wondering.

[MJonmind]

Posted 10/12/2012  9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF [size=124pt]DR. CONRAD MURRAY Moved into Bigger Cell ... Still Complaining[/size] Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296jRL6Ek

[....]he spoke to his lawyer soon after, saying, "I am a condemned prisoner right now. I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at."[...]

Dare I continue Murray's sentence: "... who I'm looking at: ME (Michael)? or my disguise (Murray)?"  :icon_geek: :icon_e_biggrin:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=431734136883609&set=a.225878957469129.54994.197418280315197&type=1&theater

"[....]We're told Murray is grateful for the attention -- but it's just not enough.[...]"

♫ ♪  "Keep On With The Force Don't Stop / Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" ♫ ♪   :michael-jackson:

Can this be a coincidence?
https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson/posts/10151216703501473

[LUNA]

Posted 10/12/2012  9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF
"I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at"

ahah! i've just read this article and the 1st words i noticed have been the 1s i've left.... murray doesn't know who he's looking at!  :fresse: mhhh.... is he looking at mikael? is he looking at the mask he's wearing? clear words,tmz,thanx!

*LUNA*

[suspicious mind]

Posted 10/12/2012  9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF
"I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at[/color]"

ahah! i've just read this article and the 1st words i noticed have been the 1s i've left.... murray doesn't know who he's looking at!  :fresse: mhhh.... is he looking at mikael? is he looking at the mask he's wearing? clear words,tmz,thanx!

*LUNA*

were we not for warned that this truth was not always going to be pretty?  if someone perhaps murray is speaking for michael then perhaps we must consider that he is so far removed from the person he used to be that he doesn't even recognize himself  :affraid:

[everlastinglove_MJ]

Quote Pepper:

All this talk about "cells" and the size of "cells"

Quote Wishingstar:

it's also the very fiber and make-up of everything on Earth.  It sort of
by reminds me of this quote by Michael:

The meaning of life is contained in every single expression of life. It is present in the infinity of forms and phenomena that exist in all of creation.

Interesting thoughts, and when I connect "cells" and Michael's quote it reminds me of Front's post http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg423757.html#msg423757 in which he mentioned microcosms and macrocosms which are cells too:

Quote Front:

In the laws of Mother Nature/God, the laws of time & physics are reflected in every microcosm (the moment of noW) and in every macrocosm (the Bigger PIcture).

This inspired me to do some research about microcosm and macrocosm and I quote a part of a filosophic blog http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=1492:

Considering the macrocosm can thus act as a corrective to our basic myopia. People tend to take whatever is around them as reality, but thoughts of the macrocosm make us realize that our microcosmic reality is transcended on all sides by nature and differences between the histories and cultures of peoples and nations.

Thinking about the macrocosm and microcosm is important because it reminds us that how it is where we live is not how it is where someone else lives, even if the other person lives in the same town. Knowledge of the macrocosm draws us out of our little lives to stand in a wider world, feeling awe before the grandeur of nature, the sweep of human history, the growth of science, and the potential to integrate the great and the little into a life that appreciates both and can move from one to the other as the occasion demands.

If we all just would think or are willing to learn about the macrocosm, it will not only make us aware of our small and humble existence on earth but it also makes us see the bigger picture which motivates us to solve the world's problems in unity.

LOVE