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they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael

If this is true, and denied access to Katherine, their children, I understand the anger or fear of Randy, in 2009 I remember Joe saying that he had denied access to Mj.
I personally do not believe this, but if true, it bothers me that the family make public all this drama to everyone then beating a dead horse.
As is the plan? would pay to know! but I hope that MJ is in control.  :smiley-vault-misc-150:
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I have never believed that Branca was on the bad side, I think he has a job to do besides forking in as much $$$ as possible. I wonder if it's really all a big show, or that something is happening behind the scenes that need this big distraction show. The kids are tweeting in the middle of the night which could indicate they've moved east to Europe or maybe even as far as Australia as suggested. Other theories are that they are really up that late, which I highly doubt, or that others are tweeting from their accounts. Since it was very shortly reported that the kids were moved to a secure location and met with Katherine after that, it's possible Katherine is moved somewhere else as well. IF this is some kind of sting, it could be possible that Branca is made to look like the bad guy since day one on purpose to attrack some snakes and maybe get some stuff on tape. I'm just guessing here, but I can't believe Branca is the target. The whole UNO thing just makes me think MJ is about to play his last card for the win. I think there is more going on behind the scenes and that this whole drama is a huge smokescreen. Just thinking out loud here.

I agree Souza. I think it's a distraction away from something else going on. TMZ in one of their articles said that the kids had been moved to a "secure location"......of course that could very well just be part of the bullcrap designed to add more intrigue, but it seems to me something else is going on.

Also - yep the UNO thingy was really interesting, especially since one of the aims of UNO is to have only 1 card remaining then shouting UNO.....but to put that last card on the discard pile there has to be the right set of numbers (or "conditions") .....hmmmm

Where this will lead? What will be the end goal?  It does seem to be building to some type of crescendo/showdown...whether that be a BAM waits to be seen. It would be fantastic if it did.  I have never been able to envisage how MJ would actually "do" the BAM - like I've said before I've run through soooo many different BAM scenarios in my head for the past 3 years when certain events have been scheduled (eg Cardiff Tribute etc etc) and afterwards they always make me feel like my thinking was really lame ...... like duh as if MJ would BAM there and then......   lol
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So several months ago I read "joesph Tittles" predictions, I always kept him on my favourites because of the fact he started i believe a year before Michael 'died' and he predicted michael's death which in his predictions it was already in the media about his lungs so this guy wasn't up there in my beliefs but i wondered if he was paid to say some things. but i don't know. anyways in his predictions for this year he said

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18: Jackson Dies is one headline I kept seeing. Not sure what Jackson this could refer to. Maybe Joe Jackson.

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i think his predictions are bogus, and some of them are very coincidental at best but if someone pays him to predict something......?

I'm wondering if someone is pulling some strings......

It's a bizare thought of mine but I have many and never stick to one completely and today this is my thoughts...

Is the guardianship being switched so katherine can be phased out? they are making out her health is pretty bad that she needed rest away from the kids, and now claiming they are trying to kill katherine... Do you think we might be hearing Katherine has died some time soon?

Just my current thoughts, trying to work out other than distraction what they might be up to with the whole thing
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"One of the definitions of sanity is the ability to tell real from unreal. Soon we'll need a new definition.
"Alvin Toffler

Katherine is what 82 years old? That's a long life these days. Only time can tell leilani81.
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Well Souza...... In my opinion this is MJs way of outing whoever it was WITHIN HIS FAMILY who he didnt trust. We always knew some of them were shady to him for money and mooched of him etc but didnt know exactly who it was. We also know from Paris's tweet that her dad alwwys told.her about SOMEONES ways within the family and to watch out. We know Jermaine introduced MJ to Thome Thome who we all think is bad. Not saying anything about that cause I dont know what happens within their family but it is a fact. I really want to know though badly haahahahah ARRRRRGGGGHHHHHH.... I believe that certain things only his kids kno because he knows ultimately they can 150% be trusted..... What do you all think?

I agree with you.  :smiley_abuv:


Disagree with you both completely!!


Have you actually thought properly about what you are writing YM???

IF your theory is correct about exposing the family who you say 'mooch' of MJ, why would MJ trust them with the biggest secret ever (hoax) when this family member could destroy everything by blabbing.

They are united. Never kid yourself otherwise. It is all in the plan.

All in this together. from joe, to katherine, all the brothers, the cousins, PP and B, ALL members are in harmony here and ALL members are on the same page and ALL members are behind and with Mike..



Really dont get people who call themselves 'hoaxers' believing parts of these stories to be true.

NOT to YM - To anyone getting sucked in. If call yourself a hoaxer... you should know better!
Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 09:35:53 PM by Australian MJ BeLIEver
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People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


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So several months ago I read "joesph Tittles" predictions, I always kept him on my favourites because of the fact he started i believe a year before Michael 'died' and he predicted michael's death which in his predictions it was already in the media about his lungs so this guy wasn't up there in my beliefs but i wondered if he was paid to say some things. but i don't know. anyways in his predictions for this year he said

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18: Jackson Dies is one headline I kept seeing. Not sure what Jackson this could refer to. Maybe Joe Jackson.

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i think his predictions are bogus, and some of them are very coincidental at best but if someone pays him to predict something......?

I'm wondering if someone is pulling some strings......

It's a bizare thought of mine but I have many and never stick to one completely and today this is my thoughts...

Is the guardianship being switched so katherine can be phased out? they are making out her health is pretty bad that she needed rest away from the kids, and now claiming they are trying to kill katherine... Do you think we might be hearing Katherine has died some time soon?

Just my current thoughts, trying to work out other than distraction what they might be up to with the whole thing






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I see President Obama waving out a hospital window giving thumbs up. So something is going to occur in early 2012 that sends the president to the hospital. Seems to be a big news story with some jokes revolved around it on an SNL skit, which also may cause a little bit of controversy.









 China will be on your way to becoming the first economy of the world.
 I do not think in these psychic :icon_e_wink:

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China is in for a roller coaster ride in 2012. About time they get some of their karma back for how badly they treat the environment. They will endure issues with their financial structure and marketplace
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Disagree with you both completely!!


Have you actually thought properly about what you are writing YM???

IF your theory is correct about exposing the family who you say 'mooch' of MJ, why would MJ trust them with the biggest secret ever (hoax) when this family member could destroy everything by blabbing.

They are united. Never kid yourself otherwise. It is all in the plan.

All in this together. from joe, to katherine, all the brothers, the cousins, PP and B, ALL members are in harmony here and ALL members are on the same page and ALL members are behind and with Mike..



Really dont get people who call themselves 'hoaxers' believing parts of these stories to be true.

NOT to YM - To anyone getting sucked in. If call yourself a hoaxer... you should know better!

Amen.

Where will all this lead? God who knows. It's not close to done though, there is unfinished business, so it's leading to something else. Probably more parallels and more hints and whispers. Maybe more attempts to get non-believers on board. Maybe more attempts to wake up the general public. Maybe he wants the media the last men standing when it comes to suspecting something. Anniversary of Elvis's death is coming up, and Bad re-release. TS has some more signs to do, and Jordy needs to talk.

Maybe he wants all things Jackson and Michael Jackson to be fresh in people's minds. Maybe he needs (or just wants) a spring board into the next cycle--Fall hoax season a'comith.
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Probably more parallels and more hints and whispers. Maybe more attempts to get non-believers on board. Maybe more attempts to wake up the general public. Maybe he wants the media the last men standing when it comes to suspecting something. Anniversary of Elvis's death is coming up, and Bad re-release.


I think you are onto something here. I think the contrived riddiculosness of it all will continue to the point were people (non believers and general public) will have no choice but to start thinking about other options of what happened to MJ.

It makes sence now. Remember ages ago on forum, some of asked front or TS (cant remeber which one, but does it matter, lol) will we be mistaken when he bams... There was a resounding no! They will know its MJ...


Very exciting. But agree, we have some time to go... Perhaps down to the wire, even perhaps the last day of the year, according to TS...

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People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


Michael is Alive
The end of evil is nigh
Trust in God
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bugsy

I'm not optimistic about the general public changing their view on the hoax :( a lot have short memories and without it being put infront of them they won't connect it, that's why they haven't for 3 years. You have media sites saying it's for the money that the jacksons are doing this yet at the same time the media is saying they won't get anything, if you speak to people in the public all they took from it was that the Jacksons are out for money, they will believe what they have always believed and media stories regardless they will take only what they've believed. Jacksons could donate all their money into charities and protest about the will the media mention both the donating and the the story of the will and they will still go with the Jacksons just being out for money. This is what Michael talked about many times. I think the only time people will stand shocked and connected the dots is in hindsight after he comes out and takes his bow, even then there will be some that will believe his a fake.

I don't know if i've made sense with writting this, my mind is on other things as well. Will re read it in a bit once I have the weeding done and correct if i've made errors in how I've wrote it
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We have four years to get it right... :Pulling_hair: :over-react-smiley:

Tabloibs = Lies = money $$$$$$   Hey I just noticed the $ sign is on the 4 key ....lol

All the Jacksons are victims of the money train......All the family have been affected by the tabloids...and the worst lie of them all, was that Michael was a child molestor..This really brought the family together,..........and together they fight for a common goal..

They all have the same agenda.

If anything, its the media reports that make then look like money greedy people.  The truth will be revealed soon.

KEEP WATCHING.........
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they will believe what they have always believed and media stories regardless they will take only what they've believed.

Maybe now. Not IF when jordy is in spotlight.

Public will be forced to question EVERTHING we read / watch in news, not just MJ related. He will turn media upside down and stand it on its head...

Public will have no option but to start not trusting media and start seeing it for the monster manipulator brain killing machine that it is!
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People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


Michael is Alive
The end of evil is nigh
Trust in God
The righteous will prevail

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Based on the above sentence from the article at the start of this thread, if anyone who stands up to the executors are denied access wouldn't that mean that Randy, Jermaine, Janet, and Rebbie would have been the ones unable to have contact with Katherine and not PPB and the other family members?

Maybe I have been away working for too long and have missed something. Please clarify and help me get back on track.

Thanks.   :confused:
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Nope...you're not over-worked...I noticed that same discrepancy too.
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I have never believed that Branca was on the bad side, I think he has a job to do besides forking in as much $$$ as possible. I wonder if it's really all a big show, or that something is happening behind the scenes that need this big distraction show. The kids are tweeting in the middle of the night which could indicate they've moved east to Europe or maybe even as far as Australia as suggested. Other theories are that they are really up that late, which I highly doubt, or that others are tweeting from their accounts. Since it was very shortly reported that the kids were moved to a secure location and met with Katherine after that, it's possible Katherine is moved somewhere else as well. IF this is some kind of sting, it could be possible that Branca is made to look like the bad guy since day one on purpose to attrack some snakes and maybe get some stuff on tape. I'm just guessing here, but I can't believe Branca is the target. The whole UNO thing just makes me think MJ is about to play his last card for the win. I think there is more going on behind the scenes and that this whole drama is a huge smokescreen. Just thinking out loud here.

IMO: When the shit hits the fan (and it has) the best thing to do is get the kids and Mother safely outta harms way. The best way to do that is through confusion. Magic tricks are going on.  :icon_albino:

By creating confusion and drama over stupid stuff like what we have been seeing (the antics of the Jacksons in the media) the kids and Mother are not actually "known" to be in any 1 place.

"Where in the world is Katherine Jackson"? :suspect:  :animal0017: Like "Where's Waldo"?

I believe there is a major sting and outting going on. This is major and people's lives are at stake. Safety is number 1. I see this confusion as necessary. There is an enemy and it has been TPTB since day 1. This is the "Momment" when TPTB are being called out by the Jackson Family. This day has been a long time coming. TS told us IF Jermaine and La Toya saw more support they could speak out against TPTB. Remember that?  :icon_question:

Well HERE it IS! I'm down!  :icon_rr:

Some interesting info regarding Trent Jackson on links below.

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By all accounts it looks like Randy is "outing" those that the others have been skirting around naming since June 2009. So, any truth to this - as we know there is usually some truth mixed in with lies. I bet the non-beLIEvers are having a field day with this...

I've been of the belief that Michael is in control of the estate. But I've sometimes wondered if it was a sting for Branca and group based on previous beliefs. So confusing!

Blessings

I agree.  :icon_bounce:
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Thanks for those links on Trent, Im. 

This is my personal opinion and since I didn't know anything about Trent before recent events I'm not sure what my opinion will count for, lol.  I don't think Trent is a bad guy because if he was hurting Katherine in any way, he would've been outta there long ago.  Same if he had been selling out the kids for his own personal profit.  If he's really that shady, I don't see him living in the same house with Katherine for all that time, same with the kids.  If anything bad was seriously happening, I really think it would've been sorted internally and swiftly. 
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